- Aug 21, 2020
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One thing people are missing is that a lot of businesses in black neighborhoods don't have insurance because it's prohibitively expensive because insurance companies have seen this pattern in the past so they charge very high rates and very high deductibles to minimize their losses the next time there are riots. A lot of stores in riot areas never open back up and the major chains refuse to open stores in those areas."Answer nicely": a euphemism for calling your opponent racist.I'm going to try to answer this nicely,
Whassamatter, the insults and accusations of racism aren't working? Did you think that that grade school tactic would actually convince me that destroying property is justified?but after this, I'm pretty much done with you.
So why did my bringing it up elicit such an acid and hateful response from you? Why was your first reaction to label me a racist and presume to tell me I don't care? You care (a little bit) about the businesses being burned out but if I point it out and condemn it, I'm the racist. Go figure."some broken windows"? Mere broken windows would not constitute over a billion dollars in damage. Downplaying the damage and violence will not make the fact go away that innocent people are being victimized because of someone else's misdeeds.Because you keep using some broken windows as an excuse to ingore the real problem, Police Misconduct.
What it comes down to is that people like you think injustice is the answer to injustice.
It wouldn't be happening if the rioters and protesters had stayed focused on the issue of black men being killed by cops and not strayed into anti-capitalism and erroneously viewing business owners as part of the problem.White people pay attention when their stuff is getting burned for no good reason other than because the protests became mobs and the mobs got out of control. And you're forgetting that black-owned businesses were damaged as well. Were these people also not paying attention?Actually, the thing is, white people ONLY pay attention to this stuff when their stuff is getting burned. Take LA. Nobody paid attention to the cops beating Rodney King... they even acquitted the thugs on the first go round. Then we had riots, and they GOT action. The Police Cheif was fired and the cops were tried in front of a black jury.
This is something you say when a business is damaged or destroyed by fire or flood, not when a bunch of thugs torch it deliberately and indiscriminately. This is the utmost in arrogant selfishness. Especially considering that it wasn't your business that was destroyed.Oversimplification is definitely one of your strengths (weaknesses). Sometimes fires happen because of shorts in appliances or wiring in the walls or generally things that are out of the owner's control or ability to foresee. And floods don't always happen in floodplains or flood prone areas. This is what happened in our area in 2016.Actually, I put in the the same category A fire happens because you let an unsafe situation occur. A flood happens because you were stupid enough to build on a flood plain.
You are incapable of empathy and thinking past the Better Ghettos & Urban Wastelands book at the end of your nose.
A riot happens when anger and outrage get out of control and then is misdirected at innocent people.A riot happens because you spent decades ignoring legitimate complaints.
Anyway, no, they won't be fine. You know how insurance companies are. Most will give the absolute minimum payout which might help the owners recoup some of the loss of liquid assets but I expect that in many cases, it will not be enough to actually get the business going again.Who is "you guys"? I know nothing about your experiences with Cigna.Oh, I know how insurance companies are, but when I complain about how my experiences with Cigna changed my views on health care, you guys all dismiss it.
Do you not understand that these people don't want to "cash out"? Do you not understand that when one starts a business, the motive and drive to do so goes way beyond money? What am I saying, of course you don't.But the point is, they have insurance. In some cases the riots are a blessing. They were probably already struggling due to the plague. Now they can cash out their failed businesses.
These people want to get their businesses going again AFTER THE PANDEMIC. Now that will be impossible for some because of the riots. Years of sweat, toil, stress and sleepless nights was all for nothing because a bunch of entitled thugbrats got their feelings hurt when a cop shot someone thousands of miles away.
On top of that, cities like Seattle announcing that they are cutting funding to the police has forced some businesses there to close permanently or move because with reduced law enforcement presence, insurance companies either will not insure anymore or will render the policies useless in the event of rioting or crime. And unfortunately, the city has made it all too clear that they condone looting and burning.And business owners in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Kenosha and numerous other cities are where they are BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE by mobs.I doubt anyone condones it. "Not shooting a black person because of a broken window" might make racists like you unhappy, but let's not forget, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE.
Has it not occurred to you that had not the rioters been defying pandemic and social distancing protocols to gather in masses in the streets to loot and burn, your so called "Trump Plague" might not have been as bad? And perhaps some of those businesses would still be open and operating?"Positive action" on the pandemic would have simply meant a longer period of social distancing and confinement. The very two things you blamed the violence of the riots for. As for any action on the riots, you know as well as I do that anything Trump did in regards to the riots would have set them off. Why? Because they hate him. You can't reason with people like that. Believe me, I know this from experience from trying to reason with you.Nope. If Trump had taken positive action on either the plague or the riots, things wouldn't be so bad. Trump does what he does best- Take a bad situation and make it worse.
Nope. Sorry, but looters and burners don't get to use a pandemic as an excuse. Besides, it certainly doesn't explain why the Ferguson riots were so bad. Another thing, if the intensity and violence of the riots could be attributed to folks being cooped up for a long time then any quicker action taken by Trump would have exacerbated the situation by requiring people to be cooped up even longer.Irrelevant. The Ferguson riots got violent on their own. For that matter, so did the Rodney King riots. You can't blame a pandemic for the violence of these riots when Ferguson and other past riots prove that a pandemic is not necessary for a protest to get violent.The thing was, the Ferguson riots were limited to Ferguson... they weren't national riots.
Why does lying on Trump's part bother you so much when you're so adept at it yourself? You lied about the Sandmann case, you lied about the Michael Brown case and you're lying here.As for Trump, had he taken quicker action, and not LIED about how serious it was, we'd have probably ended quarrentine a lot earlier. This is exactly what the Europeans did.
Again, you don't get to use a pandemic as an excuse to commit an act you know is illegal. If you get to use stress as an excuse for looting and burning then cops can use it as an excuse for shooting people in tense situations. You can't have it both ways.The property being insured does not make it legal, ethical, moral or justified.Again, the rioters destroyed insured property.
You have said that you don't favor rioting but there is one glaring omission in your arguments: Condemnation of the destruction of personal property. You will use misdirection with irrelevancies, give excuses, make assumptions, ignore relevant facts, ignore logic, ignore reason, conflate, downplay, make ad hominem attacks, insult and generally do anything it takes to take the spotlight off the holes in your own narrative. Not once have you actually said that the destruction of personal property is wrong.
That has yet to be determined. He claims self defense and I'm inclined to believe him because the video clearly shows people chasing him, assaulting and tackling him.Rittenhouse murdered people.
Having said that, rather than make a summary judgment based on less than all the facts (as you clearly have a talent for) I will await the results of the trial.
And? I fail to see how this justifies burning a city.The thug cops murdered people.
Um, no. That is just your penchant for conflation, exaggeration and moral posturing talking. You ought to know by now that these cheap tactics do not work on me.The real problem, people like you and Mormon Bob consider white property more important than black lives.
If they hadn't unjustly destroyed property in response to the unjust killing of a black man, I just might be standing beside you protesting. But alas, that is not the case. As I said, you think injustice is the proper response to injustice.
Rioters destroy property of innocent people with impunity and inaction and tacit approval of the city government and then you scratch your big monkey craniums and wonder why you have people like Rittenhouse showing up armed.And then you scratch your big monkey craniums and wonder why you have riots.
You are aware of the fact that protesters brought guns and other weapons to the CHAZ, right? Are you also aware of the Antifa thug killing the Trump supporter? Were you equally critical of that guy? Did you mention it or condemn it at all or did you not give it a second thought? I'm betting you did none of those things.I've no doubt that this is exactly what you think. But you would have thought this no matter what went down.Since the Feds murdered that guy before we ever heard his side of the story, I guess we'll never know. Frankly, it sounded more like an execution than an arrest.
Anything having to do with Trump, Trump supporters, whites, cops or rich people, you always assume the worst, most sinister motives. You, my friend, are a bitter, vindictive soul.
Also, you're quick to chalk up the riots to pent up frustration over lack of action on police reforms and you excuse it for that reason and say it was inevitable. Well, the Kyle Rittenhouse case is the exact same thing but in the other direction. Rittenhouse was there to help protect a business from rioters. Ask me why. Because of the frustration of business owners at the inaction of the city and state to do anything about the destruction. If the riots were inevitable then any response to that is inevitable.George Floyd had a history of violence too. So did Jacob Blake for that matter. So what? Besides, one video of one altercation hardly counts as "a long history of violence".Rittenhouse was a high-school dropout with a long history of violence. He's a little piece of shit who was always going to end up hurting someone.
Your predilection for hyperbole and exaggeration knows no bounds.
Their responses to evidence and links are irrelevant. It is your duty when you make a claim to support it.It doesn't matter that you're only here for entertainment. You make a claim, you back it up. If you don't, you are viewed as an internet troll with zero integrity. Which is just what you have proven yourself to be.Uh, no, I'm only posting here for my own entertainment... If a link interests me, I'll post it.
Most here don't take you seriously for that reason. That and for your hypocrisy, your juvenile debate style of ad hominem attacks and your language that serves no other purpose than to provoke your opponent. I've said it before and I'll say it again: You are completely useless.
Given that people like you think outdoor camping is a sign of white supremacy, that's not saying much.I really don't need to post "proof" of Trump's racism, that's been well established.
And the hypocrisy and insults were working so well.Yesterday he was in White minnesota telling the rednecks about their "good genes" and about how he's blocking more black refugees from Somalia. Not posting a link to that, either.
And I'm more or less done with you. MOving on to making fun of Mormon Bob.