Roudy
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You call yourself a "practicing Muslim"? What kind of practicing Muslim are you that doesn't know these basic tenements of your filthy Sharia law? Either you are ignorant, or willfully lying to deceive us "Kafir" non believers, which is acceptable according to filthy Shariah law.Lies in sharia law non Muslims or Muslims will be both equal under the law like any other law.
You don't have to lie to hate. Just say you hate it and be done with it.
I lived in a Muslim country, dickhead. I know exactly what Shariah law does. I have non Muslim friends who have had to bribe a cleric in order to pretend that they converted to Islam, because Muslims are above non Muslims in the eyes of the law, in every way. Shariah is evil, horrific, anti democracy and freedom, and violates basic human rights. But you Libtards defend this barbarism at every turn.My ignorance of Sharia law??!! I was even beginning to think...No, more like hope, that you did not represent the same level of insanity and stupidity as Mudda. Now I'm very disappointed.Your total ignorance of Shariah law has been noted. You just spent a shitload of time justifying a bigoted, intolerant, violent set of Islamic laws. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Shariah should be banned in all Western nations as it is clearly the source of Islamic radicalism, intolerance and violence. Those practicing it should not be allowed to visit or emigrate, and those currently practicing it should be put in jail or deported. Just because some delusional Leftie idiots want to commit national suicide doesn't mean we have to.You want to legitimize Shariah law which treats women, gays, minorities, and people of other faiths as subhumans, but you're not a bigot? It's always interesting when the Lefties keep telling us that we have to tolerate intolerant, hateful ideologies.
Interesting how it's the same people who treat gays, women, minorities, and non Christians like shit are the same ones who blather about how Muslims treat other people.
The fact is that some Christians and Jews can be said to be guilty of those same things -albeit not as harsh as the more extreme Islamists-but you're not talking about banning their religious laws are you? That is hypocritical.
The aspects of any religious law that does objective harm to any one is already dealt with by our civil laws, as I have pointed out, and as you and others have ignored. .
As I have also pointed out, banning the law of one religion, or all religions for that matter has first amendment implications, yet something else that you can't deal with.
What exactly would banning Sharia law look like in the real world.? Would they be barred from fasting for Ramadan? From praying to Mecca three times a day?
I already documented that fact that it is not used in our courts. That leaves making it unlawful for Muslims to practice their religion in their homes and Mosques. How do you do that ?
You can't regulate what people do in private unless a criminal act comes to the attention of the authorities an d that is the case whether Sharia law is banned or not.
What do you even know about Sharia law? . Here are some fun facts....Please educate yourself Sharia Law In The USA 101: A Guide To What It Is And Why States Want To Ban It | HuffPost
2. What does Shariah cover?
While often thought of as a legal system, Shariah covers personal and collective spheres of daily life, and has three components – belief, character, and actions. Only a small portion of the “action” component relates to law. In fact, only about 80 of the Quran’s 6,236 verses are about specific legal injunctions.
⦁ The “belief” component of Shariah commands Muslims to believe in God, the angels, prophets, revelation, and other metaphysical and physical aspects of the faith.
⦁ In terms of “character,” Shariah commands Muslims to strive for traits like humility and kindness, and to avoid traits such as lying and pride.
⦁ “Actions” include those relating to God, such as prayer, fasting, and pilgrimage, as well as actions relating to other humans, such as marriage, crime, and business.
. Does Shariah really prescribe harsh punishments like stoning adulterers?
Yes, but many of these punishments have been taken out of context, abrogated, or require a near-impossible level of evidence to be carried out. For someone to be convicted of adultery, for example, there must be four witnesses to the act, which is rare. The Quran also prescribes amputating the hands of thieves, but (and this is often forgotten or unmentioned) not if the thief has repented.
And again.....this could not happen legally here
Here is more: The True Story of Sharia in American Courts
.Sharia, or Islamic law, is a complex system of moral codes that governs all aspects of Muslim life. More than simply “law” in the prescriptive sense, it is also the methodology through which Muslims engage with foundational religious texts to search for the divine will. For devout Muslims, Sharia governs everything from the way they eat to how they treat animals and protect the environment, to how they do business, how they marry and how their estate is distributed after death. Although the emergence of the nation-state did away with the premodern methodology of Sharia, its current manifestations are either a source of legislation or actual state law in many Muslim countries
Please tell me again, how the hell do you ban all of that? You people need to give a whole lot more thought to this before continuing your hysterical crusade against Sharia law
You might also want to read this. Give the hate a rest:
Muslim – Christian Cooperation and Unity | WELCOME TO CAREFRONTING – NIGERIA
Muslims hold key to fighting terror | Toronto Star
I just provided documentation of what it is really about. You in turn go off on an opinionated tirade with nothing to substantiate it. I also detailed the reasons why it is neither practical, useful or even possible to outright ban Sharia, but all that you can do is continue to blather about the evil of Sharia-again offering only an inane and bigoted opinion and nothing more.
By doing some research and presenting facts and logic, I thought that I might be able to make some inroads with you and get you to think more about the ridged and extreme position that you take. What a fool. My work is done here.
Sharia law incompatible with human rights legislation, Lords say
Here are two Sharia references about Kafirs:
w59.2 [...] And this clarifies the Koranic verses and hadiths about hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah, Al Walaa wa al Baraa, being unyielding towards the Kafirs, hard against them, and detesting them, while accepting the destiny of Allah Most High inso- far as it is the decree of Allah Mighty and Majestic.
Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia. A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves. Allah hates the Kafir, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly.
40:35 They [Kafirs] who dispute the signs [Koran verses] of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believ- ers [Muslims]. So Allah seals up every arrogant, disdainful heart.
h8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat [charity] to a Kafir, or to someone whom one is obliged to support such as a wife or family member.
Here are a few of the Koran references:
A Kafir can be mocked—
83:34 On that day the faithful will mock the Kafirs, while they sit on brid- al couches and watch them. Should not the Kafirs be paid back for what they did?
A Kafir can be beheaded—
47:4 When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads until you have thoroughly defeated them and then take the prisoners and tie them up firmly.
A Kafir can be plotted against—
86:15 They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.
A Kafir can be terrorized—
8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”
A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—
3:28 Believers should not take Kafirs as friends in preference to other be- lievers. Those who do this will have none of Allah’s protection and will only have themselves as guards. Allah warns you to fear Him for all will return to Him.
A Kafir is evil—
23:97 And say: Oh my Lord! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions of the evil ones [Kafirs]. And I seek refuge with you, my Lord, from their presence.
A Kafir is disgraced—
37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”
A Kafir is cursed—
33:60 They [Kafirs] will be cursed, and wherever they are found, they will be seized and murdered. It was Allah’s same practice with those who came before them, and you will find no change in Allah’s ways.
kafirs and people of the book
Muslims tell Christians and Jews that they are special. They are “People of the Book” and are brothers in the Abrahamic faith. But in Islam you are a Christian, if and only if, you believe that Christ was a man who was a prophet of Allah; there is no Trinity; Jesus was not crucified nor resur- rected and that He will return to establish Sharia law. To be a true Jew you must believe that Mohammed is the last in the line of Jewish prophets.
This verse is positive:
5:77 Say: Oh, People of the Book, do not step out of the bounds of truth in your religion, and do not follow the desires of those who have gone wrong and led many astray. They have themselves gone astray from the even way.
Islamic doctrine is dualistic, so there is an opposite view as well. Here is the last verse written about the People of the Book (A later verse abrogates or nullifies an earlier verse. See page 26.). This is the final word. It calls for Muslims to make war on the People of the Book who do not believe in the religion of truth, Islam.
sharia law for the non-muslim
9:29 Make war on those who have received the Scriptures [Jews and Chris- tians] but do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day. They do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden. The Christians and Jews do not follow the religion of truth until they submit and pay the poll tax [jizya] and they are humiliated.
The sentence “They do not forbid...” means that they do not accept Sharia law; “until they submit” means to submit to Sharia law. Christians and Jews who do not accept Mohammed as the final prophet are Kafirs.
Muslims pray five times a day and the opening prayer always includes: Koran 1: 7 Not the path of those who anger You [the Jews] nor the path of
those who go astray [the Christians].
language
Since the original Arabic word for unbelievers was Kafir and that is the actual word used in the Koran and Sharia law, that is the word used here for accuracy and precision.
It is very simple: if you don’t believe Mohammed and his Koran, you are a Kafir.