Mohammed Abu Khder

[Coyote]

Was a 16 year old Palestinian teenager who's body was found partially burned.

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over - this boy seems to be overlooked. Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral

Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

In the hours after his death, rumours appeared on Twitter that Mohammed had been killed by fellow Palestinians as part of a criminal gang feud or by his own relatives in a so-called honour killing amid unsubstantiated suggestions that he was gay. His family have dismissed such assertions out of hand and insist that he had no criminal connections or history of being in trouble.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Why?

So who was he?

He was 16 years old. He wasn't some political pawn. He would have been like any teen - full of himself yet uncertain, cocky yet hesitant, full of life dreams an promises and ready to be independent yet not.

16, 17, 18, 19 - those are the years and times when people dream big but have little sense of their own mortality or how dangerous the world might be outside.

3 Israeli Jewish teens, 1 Palestinian teens who might have more in common with each other than they ever would have realized.


Family of slain Palestinian teen lives in Sacramento | News - KCRA Home

"The message from our community is clear, and also the Jewish community is clear -- that no children should suffer this conflict," said Basim Elkarra, of the Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"(He was) a 16-year-old kid, 90 pounds wet. I got a picture of me doing curls with him," Khdair said. "How's he going to defend himself? It had nothing to do with him."

The situation unfolded the day after funerals were held for the three young Israelis.

Their bodies were found Monday buried in a field in the West Bank.

His family said Khdeir was at the mosque near their home for a meal before sunrise, prior to a day of fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. That's when relatives said men pulled up asking for directions, quickly grabbed the teen and drove away.

The family said he was tortured.

"He was beaten and then stabbed and then lit on fire," Abu Khdair said. "He must have been so scared."

Dead Palestinian boy?s Sacramento relatives speak - SFGate Blog

“He loved to tell jokes and riddles; he was never serious. In all the pictures we have of him he was making a goofy face,” Wadha Abukhdeir, the boy’s first cousin, told the Sacramento Bee.

 

[Hossfly]

Was a 16 year old Palestinian teenager who's body was found partially burned.

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over - this boy seems to be overlooked. Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral

Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

In the hours after his death, rumours appeared on Twitter that Mohammed had been killed by fellow Palestinians as part of a criminal gang feud or by his own relatives in a so-called honour killing amid unsubstantiated suggestions that he was gay. His family have dismissed such assertions out of hand and insist that he had no criminal connections or history of being in trouble.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Why?

So who was he?

He was 16 years old. He wasn't some political pawn. He would have been like any teen - full of himself yet uncertain, cocky yet hesitant, full of life dreams an promises and ready to be independent yet not.

16, 17, 18, 19 - those are the years and times when people dream big but have little sense of their own mortality or how dangerous the world might be outside.

3 Israeli Jewish teens, 1 Palestinian teens who might have more in common with each other than they ever would have realized.


Family of slain Palestinian teen lives in Sacramento | News - KCRA Home

"The message from our community is clear, and also the Jewish community is clear -- that no children should suffer this conflict," said Basim Elkarra, of the Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"(He was) a 16-year-old kid, 90 pounds wet. I got a picture of me doing curls with him," Khdair said. "How's he going to defend himself? It had nothing to do with him."

The situation unfolded the day after funerals were held for the three young Israelis.

Their bodies were found Monday buried in a field in the West Bank.

His family said Khdeir was at the mosque near their home for a meal before sunrise, prior to a day of fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. That's when relatives said men pulled up asking for directions, quickly grabbed the teen and drove away.

The family said he was tortured.

"He was beaten and then stabbed and then lit on fire," Abu Khdair said. "He must have been so scared."

Dead Palestinian boy?s Sacramento relatives speak - SFGate Blog

“He loved to tell jokes and riddles; he was never serious. In all the pictures we have of him he was making a goofy face,” Wadha Abukhdeir, the boy’s first cousin, told the Sacramento Bee.

That's all well and good but in both cases the murderers aren't known and I won't comment or blame anyone till the cases are solved.

 

[Coyote]

I'm not thinking blame Hossfly, in fact - blame seems to be overriding the fact that these murdered kids were individuals.

That seems to be overlooked - even to the point of smearing their character.

 

[docmauser1]

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

That's what palistanians do, of course.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over ...

Indeed, kidnapped and murdered by palistanians.

- this boy seems to be overlooked.

What? No mournings and prayings from the palistanian corner of the universe?

Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. ...

Was ogling some hood girl, whose clan considered him a dirty arab ... was on his way to a local hershey highway riders parade ... was slated to get offed to frame and blame jews, a noble idea in arab mind, martyrish ..., etc., all that gets one whacked in arab environs, indeed.

Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Who could've thought?

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral

Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

Very legit police questions, bth., especially when noone would kidnap an arab settler inside his/her settlement. Mr. Abu is a dumbass, indeed, which isn't surprising, of course.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Cool, we have the huffies, filling in the void for all the corpses those conspiracy theories produce.

 

[Lipush]

The Palestinian autopsy shows that this boy was burned whilsestill being alive.

Which is for me, another indication that this horrible murder was not done by Jews.

But, oh, well. They found someone to blame, so who the hell cares about facts.

 

[Lipush]

Was a 16 year old Palestinian teenager who's body was found partially burned.

But he was also a person and that seems to be forgotten in the political frenzy of blame.

Sadly, while the 3 Israeli boys who's were kidnapped and murdered have been mourned and prayed over - this boy seems to be overlooked. Instead, conspiracy theories abound - he was killed because he was homosexual...he is thin, must have had AIDS. Two different kidnappings and murders, and two different treatments.

Palestinian Teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir Mourned In Tense Jerusalem Funeral

Mr Abu Khdeir accused police of asking him "ridiculous things" about his son. "They asked how much his pocket money was, who were his friends, did he have any enemies, if somebody hated him," he said. "They even asked if he had been kidnapped before. They didn't bring up the subject of him being kidnapped by settlers and when I raised it, they said, why are you saying that. It's clear they wanted to put a lid on it."

In the hours after his death, rumours appeared on Twitter that Mohammed had been killed by fellow Palestinians as part of a criminal gang feud or by his own relatives in a so-called honour killing amid unsubstantiated suggestions that he was gay. His family have dismissed such assertions out of hand and insist that he had no criminal connections or history of being in trouble.

Really sad, especially when compared to the more respectful tone given to the murdered Israeli boys.

Why?

So who was he?

He was 16 years old. He wasn't some political pawn. He would have been like any teen - full of himself yet uncertain, cocky yet hesitant, full of life dreams an promises and ready to be independent yet not.

16, 17, 18, 19 - those are the years and times when people dream big but have little sense of their own mortality or how dangerous the world might be outside.

3 Israeli Jewish teens, 1 Palestinian teens who might have more in common with each other than they ever would have realized.


Family of slain Palestinian teen lives in Sacramento | News - KCRA Home

"The message from our community is clear, and also the Jewish community is clear -- that no children should suffer this conflict," said Basim Elkarra, of the Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"(He was) a 16-year-old kid, 90 pounds wet. I got a picture of me doing curls with him," Khdair said. "How's he going to defend himself? It had nothing to do with him."

The situation unfolded the day after funerals were held for the three young Israelis.

Their bodies were found Monday buried in a field in the West Bank.

His family said Khdeir was at the mosque near their home for a meal before sunrise, prior to a day of fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. That's when relatives said men pulled up asking for directions, quickly grabbed the teen and drove away.

The family said he was tortured.

"He was beaten and then stabbed and then lit on fire," Abu Khdair said. "He must have been so scared."

Dead Palestinian boy?s Sacramento relatives speak - SFGate Blog

“He loved to tell jokes and riddles; he was never serious. In all the pictures we have of him he was making a goofy face,” Wadha Abukhdeir, the boy’s first cousin, told the Sacramento Bee.

"He wasn't some political pawn".

Except that, this exactly what he is after his death.

Now, we all agree that his death is unacceptable, but what's happening now doesn't help much to solve this issue.

Instead of calling for thirst intifada in name of this boy, they should dedicate their lives to his memory.

That's what we would do, anyway.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

His family was known to the police before the boy's tragic death. His mother and father gave different statements to the police, his father blaming Israeli Arabs and his mother blaming it on Jewish settlers.

 

[irosie91]

It's an unsolved murder-----so far. For some reason bigoted racists IMMEDIATELY
decided to claim DA JOOOOOS done and IMMEDIATELY began to MAKE POLITICAL HAY

 

[Ropey]

It's an unsolved murder-----so far. For some reason bigoted racists IMMEDIATELY
decided to claim DA JOOOOOS done and IMMEDIATELY began to MAKE POLITICAL HAY

Which is why Coyote spends so much time on reverse apologism. The joos dont matter to Coyote. Still she sure has modified her presentation since I first came here.

Still, we Jews have long term patience and this attack here will be over one of these days, just like the attacks on Israel's children will be over one day.

I pray for both days.

 

[Indofred]

It seems, according to BBC report I read earlier, the kid was alive when they set fire to him.
He had ash in his lungs, so must have been breathing.

 

[fanger]

The Palestinian autopsy shows that this boy was burned whilsestill being alive.

Which is for me, another indication that this horrible murder was not done by Jews.

But, oh, well. They found someone to blame, so who the hell cares about facts.

The autopsy was conducted at Israel's Abu Kabir forensic institute

Palestinian kidnap victim was alive when burned, PA says - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz

 

[Phoenall]

It seems, according to BBC report I read earlier, the kid was alive when they set fire to him.
He had ash in his lungs, so must have been breathing.

But still no concrete evidence he was murdered by the Jews, sounds more like an Islamic honour murder

 

[docmauser1]

It seems, according to BBC report I read earlier, the kid was alive when they set fire to him. He had ash in his lungs, so must have been breathing.

There're many things that can get an arab whacked in arab environs, of course.

 

[amity1844]

The Palestinian autopsy shows that this boy was burned whilsestill being alive.

Which is for me, another indication that this horrible murder was not done by Jews.

But, oh, well. They found someone to blame, so who the hell cares about facts.

Circular reasoning ...

Phoenall thinks the fact that this kid died horribly is evidence that Jews didn't do it. We know this because all truly horrible murders have never been done by Jews.

THE FACT IS, PHOENALL, YOU HAVE NO FACTS SO FAR! Or at least not enough to guess who did it!

Maybe I will start a new thread on horrific murders committed by Israelis.

 

[docmauser1]

Maybe I will start a new thread on horrific murders committed by Israelis.

Will that be a fresh drivel, or a recycled one?

 

[amity1844]

A combination of both.

Amazing how Z's try to put spin on anything that is in the least derogatory to the false image they wish to project rather than owning up like adults.

Again, proof that Israel is the spoiled brat of the globe and due for an international fanny paddle at the very least.

 

[docmauser1]

Amazing how Z's try to put spin on anything that is in the least derogatory to the false image they wish to project rather than owning up like adults. Again, proof that Israel is the spoiled brat of the globe and due for an international fanny paddle at the very least.

Yeah, right.

 

[Phoenall]

The Palestinian autopsy shows that this boy was burned whilsestill being alive.

Which is for me, another indication that this horrible murder was not done by Jews.

But, oh, well. They found someone to blame, so who the hell cares about facts.

Circular reasoning ...

Phoenall thinks the fact that this kid died horribly is evidence that Jews didn't do it. We know this because all truly horrible murders have never been done by Jews.

THE FACT IS, PHOENALL, YOU HAVE NO FACTS SO FAR! Or at least not enough to guess who did it!

Maybe I will start a new thread on horrific murders committed by Israelis.

Plenty of facts starting with the fact the majority of honour murders in the UK are done by setting the victim on fire. Then the fact that it is the same method used all over the world by ISLAMONAZI MURDERERS

 

[Phoenall]

A combination of both.

Amazing how Z's try to put spin on anything that is in the least derogatory to the false image they wish to project rather than owning up like adults.

Again, proof that Israel is the spoiled brat of the globe and due for an international fanny paddle at the very least.

More proof of your RACISM and INTOLERANCE. Wont let me neg you any more so I have told you to your face

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

His family was known to the police before the boy's tragic death. His mother and father gave different statements to the police, his father blaming Israeli Arabs and his mother blaming it on Jewish settlers.

Did you miss this Amity?