"mobs" and "mob behavior"

[rampart]

we've been talking about "mob rule" in the eternal controversy between "democracy" and "republic."

but what exactly is "mob rule" and why is it undesirable?

is "la cosa nostra" a mob? or are you thinking of a random crowd on the street headed for the saloon to lynch someone?

one seems random and disorganized. the other has an orgaization chart does the lynch mob have a leader?

 

[surada]

we've been talking about "mob rule" in the eternal controversy between "democracy" and "republic."

but what exactly is "mob rule" and why is it undesirable?

is "la cosa nostra" a mob? or are you thinking of a random crowd on the street headed for the saloon to lynch someone?

one seems random and disorganized. the other has an orgaization chart does the lynch mob have a leader?

Yes. The lynch mob has a leader.

 

[rampart]

Yes. The lynch mob has a leader.

that is what i think, and not necessarily the guy out front with the bull horn. (which i'm sure every ransom pedestrian carries for just such occasions )

if our system of government is designed to prevent "mob rule" then why do so many maga events seem to involve whipping mobs into frenzies of violence?

could maga itself be a mob? with a leader and an organization? or are they a stochastically random multitude of people who spontaneously decide to shoot up power stations, swat judges and prosecutors, or erect a gallows at the capital.?

 

[rightwinger]

we've been talking about "mob rule" in the eternal controversy between "democracy" and "republic."

but what exactly is "mob rule" and why is it undesirable?

is "la cosa nostra" a mob? or are you thinking of a random crowd on the street headed for the saloon to lynch someone?

one seems random and disorganized. the other has an orgaization chart does the lynch mob have a leader?

Mobs are a minority that rules over the majority through violence, fear and intimidation

People voting in a Democracy is not mob rule

 

[rampart]

Mobs are a minority that rules over the majority through violence, fear and intimidation

People voting in a Democracy is not mob rule

and that should be the "winner. "

 

[Libby von H]

we've been talking about "mob rule" in the eternal controversy between "democracy" and "republic."

but what exactly is "mob rule" and why is it undesirable?

is "la cosa nostra" a mob? or are you thinking of a random crowd on the street headed for the saloon to lynch someone?

one seems random and disorganized. the other has an orgaization chart does the lynch mob have a leader?

Lincoln answered this definitively long ago,the key insight is that if a leader (eg Biden) does not enforce fair law,then decent folks start down a road (eg buying record numbers of guns --- me too) and the level for crowd reaction goes ever so lower and lower.

", good men, men who love tranquility, who desire to abide by the laws, and enjoy their benefits, who would gladly spill their blood in the defense of their country; seeing their property destroyed; their families insulted, and their lives endangered; their persons injured; and seeing nothing in prospect that forebodes a change for the better; become tired of, and disgusted with, a Government that offers them no protection; and are not much averse to a change in which they imagine they have nothing to lose. Thus, then, by the operation of this mobocractic spirit, which all must admit, is now abroad in the land, the strongest bulwark of any Government, and particularly of those constituted like ours, may effectually be broken down and destroyed--I mean the attachment of the People. Whenever this effect shall be produced among us; whenever the vicious portion of population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision-stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this Government cannot last."

Biden the lazy and stupid 50-year sub-sub-par jerk

 

[rampart]

Lincoln answered this definitively long ago,the key insight is that if a leader (eg Biden) does not enforce fair law,then decent folks start down a road (eg buying record numbers of guns --- me too) and the level for crowd reaction goes ever so lower and lower.

", good men, men who love tranquility, who desire to abide by the laws, and enjoy their benefits, who would gladly spill their blood in the defense of their country; seeing their property destroyed; their families insulted, and their lives endangered; their persons injured; and seeing nothing in prospect that forebodes a change for the better; become tired of, and disgusted with, a Government that offers them no protection; and are not much averse to a change in which they imagine they have nothing to lose. Thus, then, by the operation of this mobocractic spirit, which all must admit, is now abroad in the land, the strongest bulwark of any Government, and particularly of those constituted like ours, may effectually be broken down and destroyed--I mean the attachment of the People. Whenever this effect shall be produced among us; whenever the vicious portion of population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision-stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this Government cannot last."

Biden the lazy and stupid 50-year sub-sub-par jerk

the mob does need a unifying theme.

how does biden's refusal to enforce laws motivate the j6 mob? trump was still president, not enforcing the insurrection act.