Mitt Romney is going to get the GOP nomination.......and he is a cupcake

[Synthaholic]

Name of the game, sliming. But if either side tries to swiftboat, then the offender will be going to court with big penalities in store for them.

Simply print the truth.

Guy, please point out what the Swift Boat Vets said that wasn't absolutely true.

Kerry did get medals under questionable circumstances, and he did say horrible things about servicemen when he got back.

This is all true. Sorry, just is.

I do think Romney's business record is like Kerry's war record.

Looks good from a distance, but when you get into the details of people losing their jobs and pension and Bain taking huge government bailouts, it's gonna look like shit for Romney.

Too bad, so sad.

and I'll be saying "I TOLD YOU SO!"

snopes.com: John Kerry Swift Boats

snopes.com: John Kerry's Service Record

It's amazing, but not surprising, that wingnuts still bitterly cling to their lies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Guy, please point out what the Swift Boat Vets said that wasn't absolutely true.

Kerry did get medals under questionable circumstances, and he did say horrible things about servicemen when he got back.

This is all true. Sorry, just is.

I do think Romney's business record is like Kerry's war record.

Looks good from a distance, but when you get into the details of people losing their jobs and pension and Bain taking huge government bailouts, it's gonna look like shit for Romney.

Too bad, so sad.

and I'll be saying "I TOLD YOU SO!"

snopes.com: John Kerry Swift Boats

snopes.com: John Kerry's Service Record

It's amazing, but not surprising, that wingnuts still bitterly cling to their lies.

What lies? Be specific.

 

[Synthaholic]

Sorry, Jake, you are on ignore for now, you can follow me around like a puppy, but I won't see what you are saying unless someone else bothers to repost it.

 

[Synthaholic]

Oh...excuse me

Of course snopes doesn't count......only the rantings of rightwing bloggers is relevant

Snopes is a left wing website. (Although it is good for debunking silly e-mails)

To the point. John Kerry did say the things he said after Vietnam. Those things were never in dispute.

The problem is that instead of fessing up to being a dirty stinkin' anti-War hippy, which is what he was for most of that time period, he wanted to focus on the few months he was in the Navy and play himself up as Mr. Big War Hero.

Which is why the Swift Vet attacks were so effective. They exposed him as the kind of guy who would surrender in the middle of a war.

The grasping is amusing.

 

[rightwinger]

snopes.com: John Kerry Swift Boats

snopes.com: John Kerry's Service Record

It's amazing, but not surprising, that wingnuts still bitterly cling to their lies.

What lies? Be specific.

Ball is in your court......all the swift boat lies are refuted
Snopes says you are full of shit

Go at it

 

[Synthaholic]

snopes.com: John Kerry Swift Boats

snopes.com: John Kerry's Service Record

It's amazing, but not surprising, that wingnuts still bitterly cling to their lies.

What lies? Be specific.

That Kerry did not deserve his Purple Hearts, for one.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's amazing, but not surprising, that wingnuts still bitterly cling to their lies.

What lies? Be specific.

Ball is in your court......all the swift boat lies are refuted
Snopes says you are full of shit

Go at it

What lies? Be specific.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's amazing, but not surprising, that wingnuts still bitterly cling to their lies.

What lies? Be specific.

That Kerry did not deserve his Purple Hearts, for one.

Did Kerry get a booboo?

 

[Synthaholic]

What lies? Be specific.

That Kerry did not deserve his Purple Hearts, for one.

Did Kerry get a booboo?

You're an imbecile.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That Kerry did not deserve his Purple Hearts, for one.

Did Kerry get a booboo?

You're an imbecile.

Wow! Three papercuts and he can go home early.
So what were the lies again? Be as specific as you can.

 

[JoeB131]

John Kerry came back as a decorated war hero who saw firsthand the horrors of the war and questioned whether it was worth the sacrifice of 60,000 young Americans

Many Americans drew the same conclusions as John Kerry

If that were the case, that's what he should have run on.

He was running from his anti-war past like it was an ex-wife he owed alimony to.

Why not just say, "I'm damned proud I helped America lose its first war!" loud and proud?

Because even if people "agreed" with that at the time, we look back at that craven surrender as a bad idea.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh...excuse me

Of course snopes doesn't count......only the rantings of rightwing bloggers is relevant

Snopes is a left wing website. (Although it is good for debunking silly e-mails)

To the point. John Kerry did say the things he said after Vietnam. Those things were never in dispute.

The problem is that instead of fessing up to being a dirty stinkin' anti-War hippy, which is what he was for most of that time period, he wanted to focus on the few months he was in the Navy and play himself up as Mr. Big War Hero.

Which is why the Swift Vet attacks were so effective. They exposed him as the kind of guy who would surrender in the middle of a war.

The grasping is amusing.

Kerry lost. Case closed.

 

[JoeB131]

With New Hampshire and South Carolina sewed up, Romney will have the nomination in hand within three weeks

Next up, he gets to go up against the big dog. Doesn't look too good for ole Mitt

They're freaking!


For Evangelicals Wary of Romney, Time Runs Short

Dismayed by the prospect of Mitt Romney as the Republican presidential nominee, conservative Christian leaders are intensifying discussions about jointly backing an alternative candidate from a field reshaped by Rick Santorum’s strong performance in Iowa.



The plan disclosed this week for dozens of conservative Christian leaders and political strategists to meet in Texas next Friday and Saturday, a week before the South Carolina primary, is the latest of several such efforts in the last six weeks to seek an elusive unity. Among the conveners of next week’s gathering are luminaries of the evangelical movement, including James C. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, and Donald E. Wildmon, the retired president of the American Family Association.


Other evangelical leaders are holding discussions and raising the possibility of later meetings if the gathering in Texas does not yield a consensus.


But time is running short. Like evangelical voters, the leaders of the religious right have been divided over which Republican to back, dispersing their support in a way that has helped Mr. Romney and undercut their influence on the nominating process. With Mr. Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, in a strong position heading into the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, the leaders said they knew they had to move quickly if they wanted to shape the outcome.

Seems like the only ones happy that Mitt is winning are Democrats...

I wonder why.

 

[Synthaholic]

Snopes is a left wing website. (Although it is good for debunking silly e-mails)

To the point. John Kerry did say the things he said after Vietnam. Those things were never in dispute.

The problem is that instead of fessing up to being a dirty stinkin' anti-War hippy, which is what he was for most of that time period, he wanted to focus on the few months he was in the Navy and play himself up as Mr. Big War Hero.

Which is why the Swift Vet attacks were so effective. They exposed him as the kind of guy who would surrender in the middle of a war.

The grasping is amusing.

Kerry lost. Case closed.

Which case is closed?

And when Romney wins the nomination, will everything that you have pointed out about his crazy religion instantly become mute, and no longer relevant or an issue?

I mean, case closed, right?

 

[Synthaholic]

With New Hampshire and South Carolina sewed up, Romney will have the nomination in hand within three weeks

Next up, he gets to go up against the big dog. Doesn't look too good for ole Mitt

They're freaking!


For Evangelicals Wary of Romney, Time Runs Short

Dismayed by the prospect of Mitt Romney as the Republican presidential nominee, conservative Christian leaders are intensifying discussions about jointly backing an alternative candidate from a field reshaped by Rick Santorum’s strong performance in Iowa.



The plan disclosed this week for dozens of conservative Christian leaders and political strategists to meet in Texas next Friday and Saturday, a week before the South Carolina primary, is the latest of several such efforts in the last six weeks to seek an elusive unity. Among the conveners of next week’s gathering are luminaries of the evangelical movement, including James C. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, and Donald E. Wildmon, the retired president of the American Family Association.


Other evangelical leaders are holding discussions and raising the possibility of later meetings if the gathering in Texas does not yield a consensus.


But time is running short. Like evangelical voters, the leaders of the religious right have been divided over which Republican to back, dispersing their support in a way that has helped Mr. Romney and undercut their influence on the nominating process. With Mr. Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, in a strong position heading into the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, the leaders said they knew they had to move quickly if they wanted to shape the outcome.

Seems like the only ones happy that Mitt is winning are Democrats...

I wonder why.

Don't forget 30,015 Republicans in Iowa.

 

[JoeB131]

The grasping is amusing.

Kerry lost. Case closed.

Which case is closed?

And when Romney wins the nomination, will everything that you have pointed out about his crazy religion instantly become mute, and no longer relevant or an issue?

I mean, case closed, right?

Well, no, that case will be closed when he loses to Obama. Which he will, and Mormonism will be a large part of it.

But why don't you and SewerDweller answer the question. What did the Swift-Vets say that was actually not true?

Kerry did game the medals system. But a lot of officers did- and still do. I don't have a big problem with that, personally. He got purple hearts and bronze stars for actions that an Enlisted Man never would have been considered for. People who served with him, from Gunner's mates to Admirals, indicated he was a puffed up phony, but that often happens in the military with people from privilaged families.

WHen he came back, he used his status to lie about those who served, and that's what those guys were and are validly upset about. But you will whine about how he got "Swift-boated" when in fact the real problem was he tried to paint himself as something he wasn't.

He wanted people to see the War Hero and not the Anti-War Protestor. Because in 2004, no one had any appetite for that shit. He was trying to re-invent himself and couldn't pull it off.

 

[JoeB131]

Seems like the only ones happy that Mitt is winning are Democrats...

I wonder why.

Don't forget 30,015 Republicans in Iowa.

You mean the same 30K that supported him 4 years ago?

Again, the Democrats seem awfully gleeful about his nomination...

 

[Dot Com]

John Kerry came back as a decorated war hero who saw firsthand the horrors of the war and questioned whether it was worth the sacrifice of 60,000 young Americans

Many Americans drew the same conclusions as John Kerry

If that were the case, that's what he should have run on.

He was running from his anti-war past like it was an ex-wife he owed alimony to.

Why not just say, "I'm damned proud I helped America lose its first war!" loud and proud?

Because even if people "agreed" with that at the time, we look back at that craven surrender as a bad idea.

hey asswipe. Ever heard of McNamara :
Robert McNamara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

McNamara's memoir, In Retrospect, published in 1995, presented an account and analysis of the Vietnam War from his point of view. According to his lengthy New York Times obituary, "[h]e concluded well before leaving the Pentagon that the war was futile, but he did not share that insight with the public until late in life.

 

[JoeB131]

John Kerry came back as a decorated war hero who saw firsthand the horrors of the war and questioned whether it was worth the sacrifice of 60,000 young Americans

Many Americans drew the same conclusions as John Kerry

If that were the case, that's what he should have run on.

He was running from his anti-war past like it was an ex-wife he owed alimony to.

Why not just say, "I'm damned proud I helped America lose its first war!" loud and proud?

Because even if people "agreed" with that at the time, we look back at that craven surrender as a bad idea.

hey asswipe. Ever heard of McNamara :

McNamara's memoir, In Retrospect, published in 1995, presented an account and analysis of the Vietnam War from his point of view. According to his lengthy New York Times obituary, "[h]e concluded well before leaving the Pentagon that the war was futile, but he did not share that insight with the public until late in life.

WHy is that relevent in any way shape or form to what I said?

Okay, let's try this again. If betraying his brother in arms by claiming they were routinely committing rape, murder and pillage in Vietnam was such a proud, defining moment in John Kerry's life, why didn't he make that the centerpiece of his 2004 campaign?

His Campaign Slogan was "REporting for Duty", not "Make Love, not War". I guess at his age, that's probably a little difficult without the viagra.

 

[DougReese]

Guy, please point out what the Swift Boat Vets said that wasn't absolutely true.

Kerry did get medals under questionable circumstances, and he did say horrible things about servicemen when he got back.

This is all true. Sorry, just is.

I do think Romney's business record is like Kerry's war record.

Looks good from a distance, but when you get into the details of people losing their jobs and pension and Bain taking huge government bailouts, it's gonna look like shit for Romney.

Too bad, so sad.

and I'll be saying "I TOLD YOU SO!"

Yawn. Snopes doesn't count.

Sorry, guy gets 3 purple hearts in less than 100 days, and a free ticket out of the war.

And has no permanent injuries...

Not that the medals were the big deal. I don't think the vets would have given a shit about that if he hadn't called them baby killers and rapists.

Since when are permanent injuries a requirement for a Purple Heart?

Doug Reese