Mitt Romney Is A Traitor! True Story! Vote For Him YOU Are Committing Treason!

[The T]

He has minions to do it for him like George Clooney...IDIOT.

From July 15...
Team Obama Now Fundraising Overseas



June 29

Clooney Takes Obama Fundraising Abroad With $30,000 Swiss Dinner




He doesn't have to GO anywhere...he has goons to do it for him.

You do realize that those fund raisers were only for American citizens and ex-pats, right?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/obama-overseas-fundraisers-china-switzerland-349566

Last year, Obama’s reelection campaign raised $237,000 from American residents of Great Britain, $128,000 from U.S. expatriates in France and $113,000 from Americans living in Switzerland.

And you believe that?

Boggles the mind. Just like OwlGore and Bhuddist Monks...and Charlie Trie and ties to China donations.

These people quickly forget history don't they?

 

[Vast LWC]

Really? Let's look at the law:

Soliciting, Accepting, or Receiving Contributions and Donations from Foreign Nationals
As noted earlier, the Act prohibits knowingly soliciting, accepting or receiving contributions or donations from foreign nationals. In this context, "knowingly" means that a person:

• Has actual knowledge that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are likely to be from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national. 11 CFR 110.20(a)(4)(i), (ii) and (iii).

Pertinent facts that may lead to inquiry by the recipient include, but are not limited to the following: A donor or contributor uses a foreign passport, provides a foreign address, makes a contribution from a foreign bank, or resides abroad. Obtaining a copy of a current and valid U.S. passport would satisfy the duty to inquire whether the funds solicited, accepted, or received are from a foreign national. 11 CFR 110.20(a)(7).​

Merely soliciting is a crime if you have reason to believe your donor is not a US citizen. .

Obama took foreign money in 2008. And he's still doing it.

But it's okay, since he's Obama. Right?

In Romney's case, he is specifically going to another country and asking foreign nationals for donations, in person.

That is "knowingly soliciting".

So is not screening your internet donation site for foreigners.

Yeah, you missed something there, Daveman.

If you go to the Obama donation site, as the e-mail suggests, and try to make a donation, you have to affirm that you are a US citizen and eligible to make said donation before you make it.

Therefore, it doesn't matter if the spam e-mails were accidentally mailed to a few people they shouldn't have been...

Because foreigners can't make donations at the site without committing fraud.

Therefore, the "knowingly" clause applies and invalidates said accusation.

Go ahead, check it out for yourself. And hey, while your there, make a donation.

 

[Vast LWC]

And you believe that?

It's the stated goal of the event.

Do you have proof of anyone who attended the event, who was not an American citizen, and made donations to the campaign?

Again, innocence is assumed until guilt is proven.

 

[daveman]

You do realize that those fund raisers were only for American citizens and ex-pats, right?

Obama's Overseas Fundraisers Spark GOP Ire - The Hollywood Reporter

And you believe that?

Boggles the mind. Just like OwlGore and Bhuddist Monks...and Charlie Trie and ties to China donations.

These people quickly forget history don't they?

Don't forget the Chinese restaurant dishwashers giving Hillary a thousand dollars each!

 

[daveman]

Really? Let's look at the law:

Soliciting, Accepting, or Receiving Contributions and Donations from Foreign Nationals
As noted earlier, the Act prohibits knowingly soliciting, accepting or receiving contributions or donations from foreign nationals. In this context, "knowingly" means that a person:

• Has actual knowledge that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are likely to be from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national. 11 CFR 110.20(a)(4)(i), (ii) and (iii).

Pertinent facts that may lead to inquiry by the recipient include, but are not limited to the following: A donor or contributor uses a foreign passport, provides a foreign address, makes a contribution from a foreign bank, or resides abroad. Obtaining a copy of a current and valid U.S. passport would satisfy the duty to inquire whether the funds solicited, accepted, or received are from a foreign national. 11 CFR 110.20(a)(7).​

Merely soliciting is a crime if you have reason to believe your donor is not a US citizen. .

Obama took foreign money in 2008. And he's still doing it.

But it's okay, since he's Obama. Right?

In Romney's case, he is specifically going to another country and asking foreign nationals for donations, in person.

That is "knowingly soliciting".

So is not screening your internet donation site for foreigners.

Yeah, you missed something there, Daveman.

If you go to the Obama donation site, as the e-mail suggests, and try to make a donation, you have to affirm that you are a US citizen and eligible to make said donation before you make it.

Therefore, it doesn't matter if the spam e-mails were accidentally mailed to a few people they shouldn't have been...

Because foreigners can't make donations at the site without committing fraud.

Therefore, the "knowingly" clause applies and invalidates said accusation.

Go ahead, check it out for yourself. And hey, while your there, make a donation.

Really? Do you really think that foreigners who want to donate to Obama are going to balk at a check box on the internet?

It's not like Obama's campaign is going to vet them. They'll just process the payments and collect the money.

• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are likely to be from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national.

Looks like the Obama campaign is run by unreasonable people, huh? No big surprise, really.

 

[daveman]

And you believe that?

It's the stated goal of the event.

Do you have proof of anyone who attended the event, who was not an American citizen, and made donations to the campaign?

Again, innocence is assumed until guilt is proven.

It's up to the campaign to determine if the donors are legal.

I don't see the campaign going to a lot of effort to verify. But hey, they'd have no reason to lie about it, would they?

 

[8537]

Where are they on Obama going overseas fundraising? That's just different somehow...

When's he going overseas to fundraise?

He has minions to do it for him like George Clooney...IDIOT.

From July 15...
Team Obama Now Fundraising Overseas

The Obama campaign is moving its fundraising operations overseas. Gateway Pundit has copies of invitations to events in Paris, Switzerland and Sweden. They also had a big fundraiser in Red China last week.

June 29

Clooney Takes Obama Fundraising Abroad With $30,000 Swiss Dinner

Actor George Clooney is offering more help to President Barack Obama's re-election campaign by headlining a European fundraiser this summer for Americans living abroad.

An invitation posted on Obama's campaign website says Clooney will be the special guest at an Obama fundraiser in Geneva, Switzerland, on Aug. 27.
Tickets start at $1,000 per person, and dinner for two costs a cool $30,000.

He doesn't have to GO anywhere...he has goons to do it for him.

Oh, so he's not going overseas to raise money?

thanks for supporting me on this one, T.

 

[Dr.House]

Doing a fundraiser on foreign soil in the company of foreign nationals under investigation for the biggest financial fraud in recent decades is further beyond stupid.

So why isn't he being arrested?

Do you loonys even think anymore?

That was rhetorical....

Eh, because it's not illegal?

I never claimed it was illegal, remember? Just stupid. The SuperPAC ad writes itself.

So it's not traitorous? Tell HomoHuggy - he's sold on the treason thing...

So this should really hurt Romney in the polls, right?

 

[The T]

So why isn't he being arrested?

Do you loonys even think anymore?

That was rhetorical....

Eh, because it's not illegal?

I never claimed it was illegal, remember? Just stupid. The SuperPAC ad writes itself.

So it's not traitorous? Tell HomoHuggy - he's sold on the treason thing...

So this should really hurt Romney in the polls, right?

To romney it'll be like crossing a railroad track at 2 MPH.

 

[8537]

So why isn't he being arrested?

Do you loonys even think anymore?

That was rhetorical....

Eh, because it's not illegal?

I never claimed it was illegal, remember? Just stupid. The SuperPAC ad writes itself.

So it's not traitorous? Tell HomoHuggy - he's sold on the treason thing...

So this should really hurt Romney in the polls, right?

Was Obama raising money from the people under investigation for the biggest finance scandal in decades?

 

[jack113]

Come Libs, fess up now, how many of you donated to Obama instead of sending gifts to your wife and kids?

The only thing that makes this campaign season worth looking at is the comedy the big government republicans supply.

 

[Vast LWC]

Really? Do you really think that foreigners who want to donate to Obama are going to balk at a check box on the internet?

It's not like Obama's campaign is going to vet them. They'll just process the payments and collect the money.

• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are likely to be from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national.

Looks like the Obama campaign is run by unreasonable people, huh? No big surprise, really.

As soon as they check that box, they are committing fraud, and therefore the campaign is not "knowingly" accepting donations from foreigners.

As for your second point, do you have specific proof that foreign nationals were donating to the campaign?

And if so, did you point this fact out to the Obama administration at the time, so they could investigate it?

 

[Vast LWC]

It's up to the campaign to determine if the donors are legal.

I don't see the campaign going to a lot of effort to verify. But hey, they'd have no reason to lie about it, would they?

No, it's not.

If they unknowingly receive donations from illegitimate donors, without specific solicitation, then they are breaking no law.

 

[jack113]

Really? Do you really think that foreigners who want to donate to Obama are going to balk at a check box on the internet?

It's not like Obama's campaign is going to vet them. They'll just process the payments and collect the money.

• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to believe that the funds solicited, accepted, or received are likely to be from a foreign national;
• Is aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national.

Looks like the Obama campaign is run by unreasonable people, huh? No big surprise, really.

As soon as they check that box, they are committing fraud, and therefore the campaign is not "knowingly" accepting donations from foreigners.

As for your second point, do you have specific proof that foreign nationals were donating to the campaign?

And if so, did you point this fact out to the Obama administration at the time, so they could investigate it?

So your saying it's ok for fascist republicans to take foreign money but not democrats? Corporate personhood makes it all possible.

Both presidential runners are fascist and have sold out to their big money doners and after the election people will finally see what they have created for a government since Eisenhower left office.

 

[Vast LWC]

So your saying it's ok for fascist republicans to take foreign money but not democrats? Corporate personhood makes it all possible.

Both presidential runners are fascist and have sold out to their big money doners and after the election people will finally see what they have created for a government since Eisenhower left office.

Huh? I did not say that at all.

And as far as corporate donations go, most of the time, there is a clear record of who invests in a corporation, and a corporation is made up of it's investors.

Therefore, any corporation that has foreign investors should be considered a foreign entity.

At least, definitely any corporation where foreigners are voting stockholders. I imagine one might make an exception for non-voting shares.

 

[there4eyeM]

"To romney it'll be like crossing a railroad track at 2 MPH."

With luck, he'll be with Obama and a train will arrive.

 

[jack113]

So your saying it's ok for fascist republicans to take foreign money but not democrats? Corporate personhood makes it all possible.

Both presidential runners are fascist and have sold out to their big money doners and after the election people will finally see what they have created for a government since Eisenhower left office.

Huh? I did not say that at all.

And as far as corporate donations go, most of the time, there is a clear record of who invests in a corporation, and a corporation is made up of it's investors.

Therefore, any corporation that has foreign investors should be considered a foreign entity.

At least, definitely any corporation where foreigners are voting stockholders. I imagine one might make an exception for non-voting shares.

Corporate personhood allows campaign funding to remain anonymous. Super PAKs are money from a variety of people and corporations all supporting the same cause.

 

[Unkotare]

LOL @ hysterical far-left numbskulls screaming "fascist!" all the time.

 

[Navy1960]

The Prohibition

The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.
Foreign Nationals Brochure

18 USC § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 USC § 2386 - Registration of certain organizations

An organization is “subject to foreign control” if:

(a)it solicits or accepts financial contributions, loans, or support of any kind, directly or indirectly, from, or is affiliated directly or indirectly with, a foreign government or a political subdivision thereof, or an agent, agency, or instrumentality of a foreign government or political subdivision thereof, or a political party in a foreign country, or an international political organization; or
18 USC § 2386 - Registration of certain organizations | LII / Legal Information Institute

While it's true that any candidate that accepts campaign money from foreign sources is breaking Federal law, it is a bit of a leap to suggest that those who vote for a candidate that does not meet the definition of having committed treason are themselves doing the same.

 

[HUGGY]

The Prohibition

The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.
Foreign Nationals Brochure

18 USC § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 USC § 2386 - Registration of certain organizations

An organization is “subject to foreign control” if:

(a)it solicits or accepts financial contributions, loans, or support of any kind, directly or indirectly, from, or is affiliated directly or indirectly with, a foreign government or a political subdivision thereof, or an agent, agency, or instrumentality of a foreign government or political subdivision thereof, or a political party in a foreign country, or an international political organization; or
18 USC § 2386 - Registration of certain organizations | LII / Legal Information Institute

While it's true that any candidate that accepts campaign money from foreign sources is breaking Federal law, it is a bit of a leap to suggest that those who vote for a candidate that does not meet the definition of having committed treason are themselves doing the same.

I was feeling froggy when I wrote the OP...

Sue me!