Isn't that exactly the kind of mullahfukkah we WANT to interrogate? But no? Instead we tell him ALL about his alleged "right" not to speak with us at all? Are the folks running this Government out of their fucking minds?
So the Hutaree should be tortured and given no rights, since they might know of a teabagger somewhere who might want to be the next Timothy McVeigh?
What if that kid downloading movies talked to a hacker/pirate who told him Anon was going to launch a cyber attack against the airlines that might possibly crash a plane? Better deny him his rights and torture him to be sure.
I didn't say jack shit about torture, in the first place. So your "so" makes no fucking sense.
I also didn't state ANY conclusion. I asked questions (and with
subtle use of profanity, I also did imply at least a hint of my own views on the topic).
I understand your concerns. I am also not arguing that your concerns are unreasonable. I AM suggesting that there is some dangerous irony involved.
We all engage in accepting the legal fiction (to some degree or another) that people accused of crimes are "innocent until proved guilty." But it
is a fiction. Very often the motherfuckers ARE guilty and there isn't the slightest doubt in the universe. So what? They are STILL entitled to a "presumption of innocence." However, that's for CRIMINALITY within the context of a legal system.
I contend that this is NOT the case with terrorists. If Abdul is found in the act of committing sabotage, for example, that is the kind of "act of war" that used to entitle the saboteur to summary execution. Ditto that for spies. EVERY fucking act of a terrorist from al fucking qaeda is such an act. They all violate the rules and customs of war. They are non uniformed motherfuckers. They intentionally target civilians AS their preferred method of warfare. They are the worst combination of enemy saboteurs and spies.
And sometimes they might be expected to have significant information we urgently need to prevent one of their intended atrocities. We'd kinda sorta like to find out about that shit. So we politely ASK them. They are rude shitfuckers, however. They impolitely decline to answer us. How stupid and ironic is it to tell them they have some alleged "right" to remain silent under those circumstances? Fuck that. They have no such right nor should they.
"Abdul, you camel-humping scumbag, you have the right to eat hot lead, mullahfukkah. You have no fucking right to remain silent. You barely have any right to even breathe at this point. We are going to calmly and politely offer you a chance to answer some of our questions. Let's make a deal. You answer fully and accurately and without any hint of deception, and we will honor your right to keep your nuts attached. Do you understand
that, scumbag?"
Ok. NOW I'm talking about a threat of torture. It's still inconsistent with offering Abdul some
Miranda warnings.