miracle in the qur'an in the water design

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The Design in Water​

Most of our planet is covered with water. Oceans and seas make up three fourths of the earth's surface while the land itself contains countless numbers of rivers and lakes. The snow and ice on the summits of lofty mountains is water in its frozen form. A substantial part of the earth's water is in the sky: every cloud contains thousands--sometimes millions-of tons of water in the form of vapor. From time to time, some of this water vapor turns into drops of liquid and falls to the ground: in other words, it rains. Even the air you're breathing now contains a certain amount of water vapor.

In short, no matter where you may look on the surface of the earth, you're certain to see water around somewhere. Indeed, the place you're sitting in at this moment probably contains about forty to fifty liters of water in it. Look around. You can't see it? Look again, more carefully, this time raising your eyes from these words and look at your hands, arms, legs, and body. That 40-50 liter mass of water is you!

It's you because about 70% of the human body is water. Your body's cells contain many things but nothing so much or so important as water. The biggest part of the blood that circulates everywhere in your body is of course water. This is true not just of yourself or of other people however: the bulk of the bodies of all living things is water. Without water it seems, life is impossible.

Water is a substance that was specially designed so as to be the basis of life. Each and every one of its physical and chemical properties was specially created for life.

Other liquids freeze from the bottom up; water freezes from the top down. This is one of the most unusual properties of water and it is crucial for the existence of water on the surface of the earth. Were it not for this property, that is, if ice didn't float, much of our planet's water would be locked up in ice and life would be impossible in its seas, lakes, ponds, and rivers.

Let's examine this in detail to see why. There are many places in the world where the temperature falls below 0°C in winter, often considerably below that. Such cold will of course affect the water in seas, lakes, etc. These bodies of water grow colder and colder and parts of them begin to freeze. If ice didn't behave the way it does (if it didn't float in other words) this ice would sink to the bottom while the warmer bits of water would rise to the surface and be exposed to the air. But the temperature of that air is still below freezing so these will freeze too and sink to the bottom. This process would continue until there was no liquid water left at all. But this isn't what happens. What happens instead is this: As it gets colder, water grows heavier until it reaches 4°C at which point everything suddenly changes. After this, the water begins to expand and it becomes lighter as the temperature drops. As a result, the 4°C water remains on the bottom, the 3°C water above it, the 2°C water above that and so on. Only at the surface does the temperature of the water actually reach 0°C and there it freezes. But only the surface has frozen: the 4°C layer of water beneath the ice remains liquid and that is enough for underwater creatures and plants to continue to live.

We should note here that another property of water-the low thermal conductivity of ice and snow-is also crucial in this process. Because they are such poor conductors of heat, the layers of ice and snow keep the heat in the water below from escaping into the atmosphere. As a result of all this, even if the air temperature falls to -50°C, the layer of sea ice will never be more than a meter or two thick and there will be many fractures in it. Creatures such as seals and penguins that dwell in polar regions can take advantage of this to reach the water beneath the ice.

Again let us recall what would happen if water didn't behave this way and acted "normally" instead. Suppose water continued to become denser the lower its temperature became like all other liquids and ice sank to the bottom. What then?

Well in that case, the freezing process in the oceans and seas would start from the bottom and continue all the way to the top because there would be no layer of ice on the surface to prevent the remaining heat from escaping. In other words, most of earth's lakes, seas, and oceans would become solid ice with a layer of water perhaps a few meters deep on top of it. Even when the air temperature increased, the ice at the bottom would never melt completely. In the seas of such a world, no life could exist and in an ecological system with dead seas, life on land would also be impossible. In other words, if water didn't "misbehave" and acted normally, our planet would be a dead world.

Why doesn't water act normally? Why does it suddenly begin to expand at 4°C after having contracted the way it should?

That is a question that nobody has ever been able to answer.

Water is "just right" for life to a degree that cannot be compared with any other liquid. The larger part of this planet, a world whose other attributes (temperature, light, electromagnetic spectrum, atmosphere, surface, etc) are all suitable for life, has been filled with just the right amount of water necessary for life. It should be obvious that this cannot all be accidental and that there must instead be intentional design.

To put it another way, all the physical and chemical properties of water show us that it is created especially for life. The earth, purposefully created for mankind to live in, was brought to life with this water that was specially created to form the basis of human life. In water, God has given us life and with it He causes the food by which we are nourished to spring from the soil.

But the most important aspect of all this is that this truth, which has been discovered by modern science, was revealed in the Qur'an, bestowed upon humanity as a guide fourteen centuries ago. Concerning water and mankind, God's word is revealed in the Qur'an thus:

“It is He who sends down water from the sky. From it you drink and from it come the shrubs among which you graze your herds. And by it He makes crops grow for you and olives and dates and grapes and fruit of every kind. There is certainly a Sign in that for people who reflect.” (Surat an-Nahl: 10-11)

Source: http://www.hyahya.org
http://www.ummah.net/science/viewscfeature1.php?scfid=39&scTopicID=4
if u need any help or any question u could contact me
sobhan allah wa alhamdo lel lah wa la ellah ella allah wa allah akbar
and thanx god who make my religion is el islam
 
-=d=- said:
water would freeze from the bottom-up, if the source of the cold was below it.


Dear brother
Even if ur theory is right
We should be grateful coz god create it like that, because if the source of cold come from below it will be some kind of disaster and lots of creature inside the water will die
This makes us think who teach allah (god) to make the source of clod come from top to down and not vise versa
And also if the source of cold came from down to top lots of soil will die coz coldness will make her survival impossible and sure there will be no petroleum or other under ground materials cause it will be spoiled by frozen water coz water will never dry in the under ground layers and these materia wouldnt even exist
And as god says in his holly book of qur'an
"And god know and you don’t know" qur'an karim

thats all
salam
 
Arabian said:
Dear brother
Even if ur theory is right
We should be grateful coz god create it like that, because if the source of cold come from below it will be some kind of disaster and lots of creature inside the water will die
This makes us think who teach allah (god) to make the source of clod come from top to down and not vise versa
And also if the source of cold came from down to top lots of soil will die coz coldness will make her survival impossible and sure there will be no petroleum or other under ground materials cause it will be spoiled by frozen water coz water will never dry in the under ground layers and these materia wouldnt even exist
And as god says in his holly book of qur'an
"And god know and you don’t know" qur'an karim

thats all
salam

wha?? Cool, I guess? :)

:D

:beer: to ya!!
 
-=d=- said:
water would freeze from the bottom-up, if the source of the cold was below it.
Only if in its frozen state it were actually frozen to something stationary, such as the floor of a swimming pool. If this is not the case, the ice would float to the top. In effect, the freezing would occur from below, but the ice would ulimately end up on top.

-Douglas
 
Shazbot said:
Only if in its frozen state it were actually frozen to something stationary, such as the floor of a swimming pool. If this is not the case, the ice would float to the top. In effect, the freezing would occur from below, but the ice would ulimately end up on top.

-Douglas


wow! :D :smoke:
 
Arabian said:
The Design in Water​

But the most important aspect of all this is that this truth, which has been discovered by modern science, was revealed in the Qur'an, bestowed upon humanity as a guide fourteen centuries ago. Concerning water and mankind, God's word is revealed in the Qur'an thus:

“It is He who sends down water from the sky. From it you drink and from it come the shrubs among which you graze your herds. And by it He makes crops grow for you and olives and dates and grapes and fruit of every kind. There is certainly a Sign in that for people who reflect.” (Surat an-Nahl: 10-11)
Kobhan allah wa alhamdo lel lah wa la ellah ella allah wa allah akbar
and thanx god who make my religion is el islam

ThanX Allah (not a god) that you believe this prophet who got Qur'an from the dark angel Satan in a cave.

How amazing that this statement is found in the Qur'an. How profound a statement. It couldn't have come from the Monkey god or Vishnu for it would be too complex for these gods.

This simple Sura certainly indicates that god Allah and his prophet Muhammad were able to understand that water comes down from the sky (rain) and that men drink it (thirst) and shrubs and herds of cattle drink water (more thirst) and crops or grapes need water to grow. Certainly a lot to think about.

How in the world did Muhammad and his god Allah come up with such amazing concepts about water. Surely this water necesssity for life proves Islam is the only religion above all others. What other conclusion can anyone come to.

There are many four and five year old non-Muslim children who know all these things about water and what it does without ever having read one word of the Qur'an.

:arabia:
 
ajwps said:
ThanX Allah (not a god) that you believe this prophet who got Qur'an from the dark angel Satan in a cave.

How amazing that this statement is found in the Qur'an. How profound a statement. It couldn't have come from the Monkey god or Vishnu for it would be too complex for these gods.

This simple Sura certainly indicates that god Allah and his prophet Muhammad were able to understand that water comes down from the sky (rain) and that men drink it (thirst) and shrubs and herds of cattle drink water (more thirst) and crops or grapes need water to grow. Certainly a lot to think about.

How in the world did Muhammad and his god Allah come up with such amazing concepts about water. Surely this water necesssity for life proves Islam is the only religion above all others. What other conclusion can anyone come to.

There are many four and five year old non-Muslim children who know all these things about water and what it does without ever having read one word of the Qur'an.

:arabia:
Dear ajwps sorry if u misunderstand
sure we all since we were born know that all,, but u misunderstand this point
I mean that who teach god who told him all of that, he who create the water and create even u ,

How amazing that this statement is found in the Qur'an. How profound a statement. It couldn't have come from the Monkey god or Vishnu for it would be too complex for these gods.

About this I dare ur monkey to even create a butter fly, u should back to your reasons and u should be sorry 4 these words


we talk here about the creation of water with this features, who we know its benefit and still discovering its feature till now ,, who made it , who teach him to make water and make u like this
" wa Allah (the god ) know and u don't know " qur'an
its his creation that he made the water is the secret of living
he says in his holly book of qur'an
"and we made u from water " qur'an
(he mean that he made human from water "more info and from sand too")
"wa khalaknakom men maen mahin" qur'an
and scientes has only descovered lately that 70% of the human body is water, we knew that after lots af years and

note if u know that Allah= god others donno
and yeah the qur'an was brought by sayedna jebril and he is an angel not satan coz there are no satan between angels in the heaven ,, only between human beings

now I hope u enter this link
www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=148421#post148421
 
Arabian said:
Dear ajwps sorry if u misunderstand
sure we all since we were born know that all,, but u misunderstand this point
I mean that who teach god who told him all of that, he who create the water and create even u ,

How amazing that this statement is found in the Qur'an. How profound a statement. It couldn't have come from the Monkey god or Vishnu for it would be too complex for these gods.

About this I dare ur monkey to even create a butter fly, u should back to your reasons and u should be sorry 4 these words


we talk here about the creation of water with this features, who we know its benefit and still discovering its feature till now ,, who made it , who teach him to make water and make u like this
" wa Allah (the god ) know and u don't know " qur'an
its his creation that he made the water is the secret of living
he says in his holly book of qur'an
"and we made u from water " qur'an
(he mean that he made human from water "more info and from sand too")
"wa khalaknakom men maen mahin" qur'an
and scientes has only descovered lately that 70% of the human body is water, we knew that after lots af years and

note if u know that Allah= god others donno
and yeah the qur'an was brought by sayedna jebril and he is an angel not satan coz there are no satan between angels in the heaven ,, only between human beings

now I hope u enter this link
www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=148421#post148421

Muhammad Arabia

Islam started with the Qur'an written by Prophet Muhammad about 1700 years ago. If you will read your Qur'an you will find that it copies and distorts both the Torah and the New Testment to form a new religion. A religion with one final goal. That goal or aim of Qur'an is to convert the world of men to Muhammad's belief or kill them all. (Sura 9:5)

Your religion is not from before time nor does it represent anything to do with G-d. Islam is a religion of hate and despising all that the Creator of the universe has made.

Statements about water and its uses proves nothing. Islam will go the way of the sands and disappear into the history of the world. But you will not see this end of Islam for you are already one of the Prophet Muhammad's victims.

The following site is the real Islam with a picture of the god Allah which has been found in the deserts of Hazor. Enjoy Allah's picture. For you have no idea of what evil of which you are a part.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
 
ajwps said:
Your religion is not from before time nor does it represent anything to do with G-d. Islam is a religion of hate and despising all that the Creator of the universe has made.

Statements about water and its uses proves nothing. Islam will go the way of the sands and disappear into the history of the world.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

No religion existed before men existed, except according to its own dogma.

And all religions will "go the way of the sands" (huh?) when men die out.

Islam is not a religion of hate. Get a clue man.
 
nakedemperor said:
No religion existed before men existed, except according to its own dogma.

Exactly correct. What existed a trillionith of a second before the Big Bang, the unvierse, time, mass or space? Have any ideas?

And all religions will "go the way of the sands" (huh?) when men die out.

All religions have not died out (gone the way of the sands or disappeared into ancient history). Hinduism is most probably the oldest religion that continues to exist to this very day. It is a very peaceful religion and probably continues because it had no reason to attack other peoples or religions.

Islam is not a religion of hate. Get a clue man.

I got the clue man. You apparently have not read the Qur'an of Islam. Islam requires that every child be taught to distrust, murder or convert all mankind to the teachings of Muhammad the Prophet.

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http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/news/article.php?id=1162665

Wake up and smell the hate of Islam....
 
ajwps said:
Exactly correct. What existed a trillionith of a second before the Big Bang, the unvierse, time, mass or space? Have any ideas?

Nope, but God and Christian dogma (and all other religions for that matter) are equally as improbable. They are AN answer but they are not a PROBABLE answer.



All religions have not died out (gone the way of the sands or disappeared into ancient history). Hinduism is most probably the oldest religion that continues to exist to this very day. It is a very peaceful religion and probably continues because it had no reason to attack other peoples or religions.

I didn't say that HAD died out, I said they WILL die out. When humans die out.


I got the clue man. You apparently have not read the Qur'an of Islam. Islam requires that every child be taught to distrust, murder or convert all mankind to the teachings of Muhammad the Prophet.

Conversion? How many people in South and Central America were converted, or murdered, persecuted and reviled if they were not converted? Inquisition MUCH?!

Wake up and smell the hate that all religions are capable of generating in fundamentalist form.

Wake up and smell the hate of Islam....

Wake up and smell the hate that all religions are capable of generating in fundamentalist form.
 
Originally Posted by nakedemperor

Nope, but God and Christian dogma (and all other religions for that matter) are equally as improbable. They are AN answer but they are not a PROBABLE answer.

The world PROBABLE does not an answer make. All religions do not equate with THE ANSWER but an IMPOSSIBLE UNIVERSAL CREATION is MORE THAN PROBABLE. You are in it.

I didn't say that HAD died out, I said they WILL die out. When humans die out.

Are you saying that all humanity will PROBABLY die out? Where did you get your certainty in the end of mankind?

Conversion? How many people in South and Central America were converted, or murdered, persecuted and reviled if they were not converted? Inquisition MUCH?!

Does that fact make Islam any less murderous or evil in its belief that the world of man must convert or be killed? Exactly what is your point?

Wake up and smell the hate that all religions are capable of generating in fundamentalist form.

You like using totally encompasing words like ALL relative to religion and fundamentalists. Can't you name one religion in which its fundamentalists and zealots are capable of generating peace, mercy, justice, morality and ethics?

Certainty which is sufficient to regulate our behaviour, or which measures up to the certainty we have on matters relating to the conduct of life which we never normally doubt, though we know that it is possible, absolutely speaking has in it a reality.
 
ajwps said:
You like using totally encompasing words like ALL relative to religion and fundamentalists.
No. That's what you do. Remember the other day? You kept doing it to musicman with statements similar to "so your'e saying israel owes it's existence solely to the u.s." when all he really said is that israel had no greater friend than the u.s. want me to post the link? Deny it and i will.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
No. That's what you do. Remember the other day? You kept doing it to musicman with statements similar to "so your'e saying israel owes it's existence solely to the u.s." when all he really said is that israel had no greater friend than the u.s. want me to post the link? Deny it and i will.

Yes why don't you repost both Musicman's and my entire posts so that all can see exactly what was said as it is not in this thread and I can't find them.
 
ajwps said:
Yes why don't you repost both Musicman's and my entire posts so that all can see exactly what was said as it is not in this thread and I can't find them.

I said deny it and i will. Do you deny intentionally mistating and wrongly paraphrasing people's statements? I'm not here to do you legwork.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
I said deny it and i will. Do you deny intentionally mistating and wrongly paraphrasing people's statements? I'm not here to do you legwork.


You initially volunteered to post the statements made by musicman and myself. I delete these posts as there are many more to deal with.

It is not my legwork but yours. You made the false claims, now prove what you claimed.
 
ajwps said:
You initially volunteered to post the statements made by musicman and myself. I delete these posts as there are many more to deal with.

It is not my legwork but yours. You made the false claims, now prove what you claimed.

If you denied it, I said. Do you deny your actions and strawman arguments?

What, you deleted the posts? Well I guess I won't find them now. You're an odd bird.

You are thoroughly unconvincing in your every utterance.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
If you denied it, I said. Do you deny your actions and strawman arguments? What, you deleted the posts? Well I guess I won't find them now. You're an odd bird. You are thoroughly unconvincing in your every utterance.

As an honest Jew, I vow that I have not deleted any of my posts. I simply could not remember the thread or topic of the discussion I had regarding palestine the Arabs and the right of aliens living in a foreign land.

You utterances are certainly convincing as you have found every one of your arguements and statements to be hollow and meaningless.

Anyone who has a third grade education has no difficulty understanding that you have no substance to any of your points.
 

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