Minneapolis school shooting - Dems call for gun control

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Piss Tests are no extra charge ( included in the BGC charge ) or if you sign waiver the Deep Dive BGC is same as usual 4473 / BGC fee

You don't know anything about the process you proposed. Is that what you are telling us?

How would that stop someone who bought his weapons before he started taking the drugs or had any type of mental health care? What if someone else bought them for him many years ago?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Dude, get a grip.

What the one thing every mass shooting has in common?

Gender-benders recently!

 

[frigidweirdo]

I am saying that gun bans and censorship are totalitarianism.

Good for you.

 

[Failzero]

You don't know anything about the process you proposed. Is that what you are telling us?

How would that stop someone who bought his weapons before he started taking the drugs or had any type of mental health care? What if someone else bought them for him many years ago?

These would only be for all future Purchases ( 4473 forms ) and Transfers and Pawn Activities , and getting back Stolen or seized Firearms

 

[Failzero]

How many weeks will it take to buy a gun?

10 day maximum for all tests or BGCs ( like California )

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

These would only be for all future Purchases ( 4473 forms ) and Transfers and Pawn Activities , and getting back Stolen or seized Firearms

What good will that do?

Good luck getting that past the SCOTUS.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

10 day maximum for all tests or BGCs ( like California )

Who is paying the costs, again?

 

[Failzero]

Who is paying the costs, again?

We pay 47.00 $ for BGC now here in Ca . I’m sure it could be that or less Nationally with HIPPA waiver scouring and or Piss test if testing labs get in on the Fees

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We pay 47.00 $ for BGC now here in Ca . I’m sure it could be that or less Nationally with HIPPA waiver scouring and or Piss test if testing labs get in on the Fees

That's nice. There is no charge for background checks everywhere else, so how do you justify changing it and putting a further increased burden on the purchaser? Additional taxes on firearms are unconstitutional. That's called an infringement.

You really should leave the People's Republic of California.

 

[Failzero]

That's nice. There is no charge for background checks everywhere else, so how do you justify changing it and putting a further increased burden on the purchaser? Additional taxes on firearms are unconstitutional. That's called an infringement.

You really should leave the People's Republic of California.

Leave Shasta County

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Leave Shasta County

You better leave before they make travel illegal.

 

[Failzero]

You better leave before they make travel illegal.

Then we can fight from inside the wire

 

[Hafar1014]

Guns are the weapon of choice for killing in the US. Why? Because they're the easiest. Very few people go into schools and stab people. Very few people try and drive cars through schools to kill kids.

Minnesota is 13th for mental healthcare spending in the US.

States Who Spend the Most on Mental Health Funding

The following states have the largest budgets allocated to mental health funding.

www.worldatlas.com

People get angry in life, people get violent. Give them guns and they can act on this. Don't give them guns and they are less likely to act on this.

That crazy views are prevalent in the US is hardly just the Democrats' fault. Having only two political parties who spend loads of money trying to force everyone to accept one or the other is a problem, and it's both sides that are enforcing the two party system.

But I guess it's easy to just blame the Democrats for everything, then you don't need to think.

So you wouldnt care if a killer used a car. 100% of all school and workplace killers have severe mental illness. They dont need a gun. What kind of gun did Timothy McVeigh use? Until we control the mentally ill killer we control nothing. Democrats blame guns because its their policies and laws that create these killers and prevent us from mandating long term treatment. We know well in advance they will act violently but thanks to democrats they passed laws preventing long term mandated treatment. This isnt about anger its about rage and severe mental illness

 

[OODA_Loop]

No Bans but ( HIPPA Waiver so your mental Health can be scrutinized ) or ( Piss Test for SSRIs and illegal drugs ) with every 4473 form

Ha. Who scrutinizes your health records and please provide examples of disqualifying conditions?

 

[Hafar1014]

JFK closed them when they passed the Community Behavioral Health act in 1963

Heres some info for you Dooky
AI Overview

The JFK "behavioral health act" refers to the Community Mental Health Act of 1963, also known as the Mental Retardation and Community Mental Health Centers Construction Act. Signed by President John F. Kennedy, this landmark federal law shifted mental health care from large, custodial institutions to community-based centers, providing funding for construction, staffing, and services to treat people within their own communities rather than in isolation.


Key Aspects of the Act

• Shift from Institutions:
  The act aimed to reduce the number of people living in large psychiatric hospitals by creating a network of community mental health centers.
  
  
• Community-Based Services:
  These centers were intended to offer various services, including outpatient clinics, emergency services, consultation, education, and partial hospitalization.
  
  
• Federal Funding:
  The legislation provided federal grants for the construction and staffing of these community centers, which were meant to be a collaborative effort with state and local governments.
  
  
• Prevention and Treatment:
  Kennedy's vision emphasized prevention, treatment, and rehabilitation in the community, replacing the "custodial isolation" of the past with a more supportive approach.
  
  
• Focus on Intellectual Disabilities:
  The act also addressed mental retardation by funding research facilities and treatment services for individuals with developmental disabilities.
  

Legacy and Implementation

• Laying the Groundwork:
  The Community Mental Health Act established the foundation for community-based mental healthcare in the United States, though its vision of a comprehensive system was not fully realized due to insufficient long-term operational funding.
  
  
• President Kennedy's Last Act:
  It was the last bill President Kennedy signed into law before his assassination.

 

[M14 Shooter]

"Infringement?" What infringement?

Bans on the ownership and use of all firearms that fall under the umbrella of "bearable arms".
Legal requirements to secure privately owned firearms
"May-issue" permit system for carrying a gun.
All are infringements.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So you wouldnt care if a killer used a car. 100% of all school and workplace killers have severe mental illness. They dont need a gun. What kind of gun did Timothy McVeigh use? Until we control the mentally ill killer we control nothing. Democrats blame guns because its their policies and laws that create these killers and prevent us from mandating long term treatment. We know well in advance they will act violently but thanks to democrats they passed laws preventing long term mandated treatment. This isnt about anger its about rage and severe mental illness

So because I attack guns, you think I only care if people are killed with guns? Seriously?

In the UK they have mentally ill people. But they don't have guns. The last school shooting was 1996. 1.5 murders per 100,000 people compared to 6 for the USA.

3/4 of all murders in the US happen with guns.

Democrats blame guns. REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS make laws that create these killers.

Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the US (besides DC, which is a city, not a state).

Louisiana is a state that is mostly Republican. 2010 was the last time Democrats controlled anything but the Governor.

 

[2aguy]

So because I attack guns, you think I only care if people are killed with guns? Seriously?

In the UK they have mentally ill people. But they don't have guns. The last school shooting was 1996. 1.5 murders per 100,000 people compared to 6 for the USA.

3/4 of all murders in the US happen with guns.

Democrats blame guns. REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS make laws that create these killers.

Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the US (besides DC, which is a city, not a state).

Louisiana is a state that is mostly Republican. 2010 was the last time Democrats controlled anything but the Governor.

Moron......the two biggest cities in Louisiana have been under democrat party control

New Orleans....democrat party control since 1872

Baton Rouge...they had democrat party control since 2001, then in 2005 they elected more democrats to control the city....only in 2025 did they get smart and elect a republican....up to 2005, the democrat party controlled the state since1872


The majority of gun crime in the United States happens in democrat party controlled cities......which is why they don't care about gun crime...especially considering the majority of the killers are young black males......

Mass public shootings in the U.S. are the rarest of rare events...in a country of over 350 million people we had a total of 2 in 2024.........

600 million guns in private hands.......and 13,529 gun murders in 2023...........the vast majority of those victims are not innocent Americans, they are criminals, and the friends and family of criminals........

Meanwhild, lives saved by guns on average each year?

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.



https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/case-closed-kleck-is-still-correct/

 

[2aguy]

So because I attack guns, you think I only care if people are killed with guns? Seriously?

In the UK they have mentally ill people. But they don't have guns. The last school shooting was 1996. 1.5 murders per 100,000 people compared to 6 for the USA.

3/4 of all murders in the US happen with guns.

Democrats blame guns. REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS make laws that create these killers.

Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the US (besides DC, which is a city, not a state).

Louisiana is a state that is mostly Republican. 2010 was the last time Democrats controlled anything but the Governor.

Europe? Have murdered more people than all the gun murder in the U.S. over our entire 249 year history.....

It will take us about 100 years to catch up to the murder rate of Europe.....

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

Including 1 million children

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 249 year history?

Around 2,490,000

Europe.... 15-20 million murdered in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 murdered in 247 years

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....