Millions of Americans probably praying that the ACA penalty will end immediately.

[francoHFW]

Lots of companies did. Trust me, I work in industry and talk to people at different companies all day long. Because of Commie Care, it's spreading like cancer. The Democrats expected this to happen. You can find that information in the Federal Registry. Need a link, just ask. Before they started Commie Care, they estimated that up to 80% of employers would drop coverage for their employees. Then, all those people would have to buy insurance with after-tax money which would have been a huge windfall for the federal government. Last year they kept over a billion dollars in fines from people that didn't get coverage. The federal government is making out like bandits.

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

You won't acknowledge success even if it does happen. You'll just continue to stick to your hateful 'Party before Country' shite. You won't be satisfied with anything a Republican does. You're a bit deranged. But i'm sure your doctors have already explained to that you. I'm not breaking any news to ya there. But regardless, Trump's gonna move forward and clean up Obama's awful mess. It is happening.

If the New BS GOP ever has a success lol. W didn't. Reaganism over 35 years has wrecked the nonrich and the country, rolls on...Great job! Has nothing to do with Obama- he was blocked DUH.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I understand your concern over the mandate being removed before any consideration what it would do to the families that are being subsidized was taken in to consideration, I really do.
However, where was your concern when it came to what the mandate and the tripling of premiums to subsidize those families would do to the ones that suddenly without warning found themselves unable to afford insurance any more.
Did you have as much concern for those people?
As Ray in Cleveland, If I remember correctly, I believe he said that the ACA caused him to go without insurance for the first time in his working career, Where is your concern for him? or the millions of others like him that have made sure to carry coverage, that did show a level of personal responsibility. I guess now that he cant afford the new triple cost premiums, you would consider him a free loader?
Personally, I have compassion and concern for people like Ray, someone that has always worked hard to support himself and is family, that has not been a burden on society, that has not looked at my wallet as if the contents inside were somehow owed to him. He and those like him are the ones that I care about. Not the ones that expect everyone else to support them.

Ray's boss believed the GOP fear mongering....and stopped his health program.

Lots of companies did. Trust me, I work in industry and talk to people at different companies all day long. Because of Commie Care, it's spreading like cancer. The Democrats expected this to happen. You can find that information in the Federal Registry. Need a link, just ask. Before they started Commie Care, they estimated that up to 80% of employers would drop coverage for their employees. Then, all those people would have to buy insurance with after-tax money which would have been a huge windfall for the federal government. Last year they kept over a billion dollars in fines from people that didn't get coverage. The federal government is making out like bandits.

Yup, great job sabotaging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

exactly what is a saboging? its hard to respond to a post if one has no idea of what something means.
Perhaps you are smarter than I am, you know words that I don't.

Sabotaging. From throwing a wooden shoe (sabot, fr.) into the machinery.

yes, I understand the word sabotage, you should have used that instead of sa

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

I dont know why liberals keep pointing to W as if he was the republicans,, actually, I think he might have been the Republicans dream. But he was far from the conservatives dream. Trump is far from the conservatives dream but he will serve his purpose, and he will do it in the one term that he will be in office.
I said before, the republican party is dead, they committed suicide, the conservatives are going to take over the party and bring it back to life. but the republicans as a organized party? gone, dead. Not wanted.

Fox and Rush and Heritage fake news took over the GOP. Trump is temporary, they'll be back- along with their establishment. If they ever left. We'll see.

not sure about Rush, I honestly have never listened to him. I do sometimes watch Fox news, but I like to switch to other stations and hear their version of stories too, somewhere between the two is the truth. Not familiar with heritage.
Now, as far as the GOP? they left their constituents behind, they have been forgetting who put them in office and why.
Until the republican establishment notices that it is being replaced by conservatives, there is no hope for the party. Republican congress can complain all day about Trump, but they need to understand that they are the ones that opened the doors to the white house for him.

 

[beagle9]

and that is what the liberals are too stupid to understand.
when the government says the ACA is going to save billions of dollars, they were not referring to the taxpayers saving any money. First off, the billions that are saved are not going to result in lower taxes, it will be used most likely for more programs to keep the unworthy alive and leaching off of society.
When the employer drops the health care contributions from the employees, the employer is not going to pass those savings on to the worker, that money is going to go to build the bottom line of the companies books.
All of the savings are for big business and government. The cost is going to just be transferred over to the workers, that big number that is spent on health care in the U.S is not going away, its still getting paid, but now we are going to be paying the same amount in taxes plus the added amount for the insurance.
Liberals prove every day that they are without a doubt the biggest idiots that have ever walked the face of the earth.

It's why I've always said if I were ever going to try and sell a bridge to somebody, I'd make sure it was a liberal, because they'll believe anything.

Hilariously ironic, dupe. Example? That's not a prediction blocked by the mindless GOP, or just total bs that makes up the GOP fake news planet, please?

4 million illegals voted, Obama had 2 years of control, his policies cause this mess, this isn't Reaganism rolling on, Total Pub Propaganda BS: ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry

republicans are lazy? thats pretty funny.
I say cut off all public assistance then and lets really screw those lazy ass republicans. The dems should go for this. We can balance the budget just by taking public assistance away from all the republicans, oh, and that one democrat that is on public assistance somewhere in the mountains of Colorado.
The fact that you actually think what you do is proof that you are too lazy to research these things for yourself. Maybe we should start a new government agency, department of research, that way democrats will be able to have research available to them also.

White Dems and Dupes are the same as far as assistance goes. You're in the white party. Congrats, dupe. Meanwhile, your greedy idiot heroes have been robbing the nonrich and the country blind for 35 years. And YOU, dupe.

the only people that have been robbing me are the lazy ass moochers that refuse to support themselves. If not for the rich, I most likely would not have a place to work and earn my living to start with.
How can I hold being richer than I am against them when without their investment I might be unable to support my family.

The rich still put their dam pants on just like me (one leg at a time), and kissing their ace isn't the answer either. Just like Trump said, he wanted his cabinet to be themselves, and not a bunch of yes men. Stand up and thank people yes, but at the same time expect to be thanked. The problem began when the rich (those guilty), began thinking to themselves that you have no dam choice anylonger. It's time to stand up and be respected again. Dam being a butt kisser who thinks there is no other options in life anymore.

 

[Dschrute3]

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

You won't acknowledge success even if it does happen. You'll just continue to stick to your hateful 'Party before Country' shite. You won't be satisfied with anything a Republican does. You're a bit deranged. But i'm sure your doctors have already explained to that you. I'm not breaking any news to ya there. But regardless, Trump's gonna move forward and clean up Obama's awful mess. It is happening.

If the New BS GOP ever has a success lol. W didn't. Reaganism over 35 years has wrecked the nonrich and the country, rolls on...Great job! Has nothing to do with Obama- he was blocked DUH.

Again, you're gonna oppose anything a Republican proposes. You'll never acknowledge a success if Republicans achieve it. You are deranged. Every poster on the Board knows that. It isn't 'breaking news.' And i suspect even you know you're deranged. Try to stay on your meds, will ya? I'm being serious.

 

[beagle9]

Ray's boss believed the GOP fear mongering....and stopped his health program.

Lots of companies did. Trust me, I work in industry and talk to people at different companies all day long. Because of Commie Care, it's spreading like cancer. The Democrats expected this to happen. You can find that information in the Federal Registry. Need a link, just ask. Before they started Commie Care, they estimated that up to 80% of employers would drop coverage for their employees. Then, all those people would have to buy insurance with after-tax money which would have been a huge windfall for the federal government. Last year they kept over a billion dollars in fines from people that didn't get coverage. The federal government is making out like bandits.

Yup, great job sabotaging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

exactly what is a saboging? its hard to respond to a post if one has no idea of what something means.
Perhaps you are smarter than I am, you know words that I don't.

Sabotaging. From throwing a wooden shoe (sabot, fr.) into the machinery.

yes, I understand the word sabotage, you should have used that instead of sa

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

I dont know why liberals keep pointing to W as if he was the republicans,, actually, I think he might have been the Republicans dream. But he was far from the conservatives dream. Trump is far from the conservatives dream but he will serve his purpose, and he will do it in the one term that he will be in office.
I said before, the republican party is dead, they committed suicide, the conservatives are going to take over the party and bring it back to life. but the republicans as a organized party? gone, dead. Not wanted.

Fox and Rush and Heritage fake news took over the GOP. Trump is temporary, they'll be back- along with their establishment. If they ever left. We'll see.

not sure about Rush, I honestly have never listened to him. I do sometimes watch Fox news, but I like to switch to other stations and hear their version of stories too, somewhere between the two is the truth. Not familiar with heritage.
Now, as far as the GOP? they left their constituents behind, they have been forgetting who put them in office and why.
Until the republican establishment notices that it is being replaced by conservatives, there is no hope for the party. Republican congress can complain all day about Trump, but they need to understand that they are the ones that opened the doors to the white house for him.

. Don't leave out the deplorable Democrats.

 

[WillReadmore]

Lots of companies did. Trust me, I work in industry and talk to people at different companies all day long. Because of Commie Care, it's spreading like cancer. The Democrats expected this to happen. You can find that information in the Federal Registry. Need a link, just ask. Before they started Commie Care, they estimated that up to 80% of employers would drop coverage for their employees. Then, all those people would have to buy insurance with after-tax money which would have been a huge windfall for the federal government. Last year they kept over a billion dollars in fines from people that didn't get coverage. The federal government is making out like bandits.

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

You won't acknowledge success even if it does happen. You'll just continue to stick to your hateful 'Party before Country' shite. You won't be satisfied with anything a Republican does. You're a bit deranged. But i'm sure your doctors have already explained to that you. I'm not breaking any news to ya there. But regardless, Trump's gonna move forward and clean up Obama's awful mess. It is happening.

No. That's just not what is going on.

When Dems point to the central features, Republicans say they LIKE that. In fact, only half of Republicans want the ACA killed.

Basically, Republicans have made killing the ACA some sort of abstract and partisan objective regardless of what it actually is and does.

Also, note that Republicans can't figure out anything better - yet they want to kill what we have!!

If they could, we would have heard about it over the last 6 years.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I know people who need this money badly, and they can't afford to have their taxes levied to pay this penalty. They couldn't afford the insurance, and they sure don't need to be paying for anyone else's insurance. Period.

/---- Libtards call those people evil, greedy, homophobes who hate the environment. How dare they want to keep their money?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Healthcare in this nation has to be fixed. And this bullcrap of having multiple policies in order to cover things like your eyes, and your dental when they are a vital part of your health is just a complete travisty. It all needs to be in one policy just like we do with car insurance. You can add on to the policy, but it's all with the same company of choice.

If you want health insurance like car insurance you have to accept that your car insurance does not pay for tires, or windshield wipers. It doesn't recharge your air conditioner or replace batteries.

Similar health insurance would not pay for flu shots, or a doctor's visit for a cold. It would certainly bring down the cost of medical care.

what if that doctor visit for a cold happened to be pneumonia?

If they went to he doc, they had insurance or money.....what the **** business is it if mine?

False. Before the ACA, we pushed those who can't pay into our ERs.

Then, we paid for that through taxes and through increased costs of insurance and direct charges.

If we dump millions off insurance, we'll need to start shipping tax dollars to hospitals again.

/---- Calm down woman.

 

[beagle9]

Lots of companies did. Trust me, I work in industry and talk to people at different companies all day long. Because of Commie Care, it's spreading like cancer. The Democrats expected this to happen. You can find that information in the Federal Registry. Need a link, just ask. Before they started Commie Care, they estimated that up to 80% of employers would drop coverage for their employees. Then, all those people would have to buy insurance with after-tax money which would have been a huge windfall for the federal government. Last year they kept over a billion dollars in fines from people that didn't get coverage. The federal government is making out like bandits.

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

Obamacare was a nightmare. You may not wanna acknowledge that, but it was the reality. The Mandate especially, should have never happened. But now it's dead. And i'm grateful to Trump for that.

ACA needed regulation, cost controls, and probably more subsidies temporarily, until costs were brought down, all mindlessly obstructed. Ok, wth is your plan? The problem is how ridiculously expensive our GOP health care has become the last 60 years..

Costs rapidly increased with the Obamacare disaster. But i understand you're just seeing what you wanna see. You're still in fanatical Obamabot-Defense Mode. It's a knee-jerk response for you.

You get what you paid for- guaranteed coverage with annual cap, coverage for pre-existing poor schnooks. Are we going back to scams and 750k bankruptcies, 500k for people who THOUGHT they had good coverage, LOSING EVERYTHING- and 40k DYING to avoid that?? Great job!

. So you are saying that the ACA is causing these things not to happen now or that it fixed these things ?? Can you give some examples on how the ACA stop these things, and how these things are a thing of the past because of the ACA ?

 

[beagle9]

Ray's boss believed the GOP fear mongering....and stopped his health program.

Lots of companies did. Trust me, I work in industry and talk to people at different companies all day long. Because of Commie Care, it's spreading like cancer. The Democrats expected this to happen. You can find that information in the Federal Registry. Need a link, just ask. Before they started Commie Care, they estimated that up to 80% of employers would drop coverage for their employees. Then, all those people would have to buy insurance with after-tax money which would have been a huge windfall for the federal government. Last year they kept over a billion dollars in fines from people that didn't get coverage. The federal government is making out like bandits.

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

Obamacare was a nightmare. You may not wanna acknowledge that, but it was the reality. The Mandate especially, should have never happened. But now it's dead. And i'm grateful to Trump for that.

ACA needed regulation, cost controls, and probably more subsidies temporarily, until costs were brought down, all mindlessly obstructed. Ok, wth is your plan? The problem is how ridiculously expensive our GOP health care has become the last 60 years..

Health care would not have become so expensive if the democrats would not have forced doctors and hospitals to care for those that dont deserve the care.

. You aren't helping anyone with your attitude about poor people. Not all who are poor are bad, and not all who are bad are poor. Got it ?

 

[francoHFW]

Of course its going to cost those that get the subsidies more without the mandate. With a mandate in place that forces people to purchase insurance, companies are essentially allowed to charge the non subsidized individuals whatever it is they want/need to cover those that are getting subsidized. If you are forced to purchase, then the price is not something that you can argue.
If there is no mandate, those that would have to pay the outrageous premiums and out of pockets to cover the subsidies are free to find other means to cover their medical costs, or just go without out.
The subsidized are going to end up having to pay more than they currently do because there will not be enough people covering their 0 to 100.00 premiums.
In order to offset the subsidies, insurance companies are going to have to attract more people in the higher earning bracket to buy from them, this is going to have to be done through offering lower prices to attract more people.

The cost to the non subsidized payer is what prompted the fight against the ACA. for example, if lets say the ACA had passed and it meant that I would have had to pay 100.00 more a month in premium but my coverage and policy terms all stayed the same, I would have bitched about it, but I most likely would not have been so adamant about shutting the ACA down. However when my premiums would have doubled and my out of pocket would have gone up by 12,000 a year, there is no way that I could sit back and quietly pay the price.
As he always did, obama misread the peoples
I think it will cost the average non subsidized client less by not having a mandate. Insurance companies are going to have to have price wars to get enough people paying full price to offset those paying next to nothing.
The mandate allowed companies to charge whatever they wanted/needed.
I think the ACA should be covered with a tax on cigarettes (I smoke) junk foods and other lifestyle choices that are not generally associated with good health.

Any ideas like that should be ADDED to ACA, AND going after ridiculous costs. So you support tax on big sodas, limits? You are a Dem. lol

me a dem? no, I just want things that I dont use to be taxed to pay for the ACA, I dont want to be forced to pay. I can quit smoking, and I would just to make sure none of my money went to keeping a cockroach alive.
I hate to be cold but if someone refuses to better themselves and pay their own way, maybe it is for the good of society if they were to just get sick and die.
Society does not advance and evolution does not take place by keeping the weak and worthless in the gene pool.

Cockroaches? Nice- Only ignorance and bigotry make such bs possible. Enjoy hell. FIX ACA with all these ideas. Whatever system we have, if we even have one, should be cooperated with and TINKERED with forever. Make it Trumpcare, no one cares if it works, but going back to the GOP scam "system" is a horror. Invest in America instead of giving it away to the greedy idiot rich like the last 30 years...

the greedy idiot rich that work vs your version of an upstanding deserving intelligent citizen that does nothing but sits on their ass waiting for handouts from those greedy rich?
You seriously have things backwards in your world.
How about this, how about the lazy go ahead and get a job, earn some money and pay for their own needs for a change.

. Well to be fair, I work full time, and I have been working full time since I got out of school. Around 15 to 20 years ago the company supplied insurance programs began going crazy. Every 2 years they would come to us and say that we had to change insurance companies. So what we were doing was basically giving our money away for nothing. The policies became crap, and the rates kept going up, up, up, and up. Then we went for a time period where we weren't offered any insurance. All this bull crap began happening after Clinton signed that dam NAFTA trade deal it seemed, and after that companies started becoming less reliant or loyal to their American employees. Infact it seemed that after that the entire nation became highly unstable in many ways. Scams started to become common place, and trends of lying, cheating, and stealing also became common place. No one could be proud of anything America anymore, and it's why we are seeing the anarchy that we are seeing right now. The citizens don't trust anything anymore, and it's showing now big time. Rebellious little children this nations citizens have become now, and it's time to make America great again, but 1st the real culprits have to be identified, and reprogrammed.

The New BS GOP, duh. Reaganism rolls on, see sig. NAFTA failed because the GOP refuses cheap training and ed for good jobs produced and infrastructure investment, all to save the rich and giant corps who own them.

 

[francoHFW]

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

Obamacare was a nightmare. You may not wanna acknowledge that, but it was the reality. The Mandate especially, should have never happened. But now it's dead. And i'm grateful to Trump for that.

ACA needed regulation, cost controls, and probably more subsidies temporarily, until costs were brought down, all mindlessly obstructed. Ok, wth is your plan? The problem is how ridiculously expensive our GOP health care has become the last 60 years..

Costs rapidly increased with the Obamacare disaster. But i understand you're just seeing what you wanna see. You're still in fanatical Obamabot-Defense Mode. It's a knee-jerk response for you.

You get what you paid for- guaranteed coverage with annual cap, coverage for pre-existing poor schnooks. Are we going back to scams and 750k bankruptcies, 500k for people who THOUGHT they had good coverage, LOSING EVERYTHING- and 40k DYING to avoid that?? Great job!

. So you are saying that the ACA is causing these things not to happen now or that it fixed these things ?? Can you give some examples on how the ACA stop these things, and how these things are a thing of the past because of the ACA ?

Yikes. Of course. Read something, dupe. Do you have internet?

 

[beagle9]

Yup, great job saboging it and refusing to have anything to do with fixing problems. Great job- back to scams, cutoffs, and deaths...or shock me.

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

You won't acknowledge success even if it does happen. You'll just continue to stick to your hateful 'Party before Country' shite. You won't be satisfied with anything a Republican does. You're a bit deranged. But i'm sure your doctors have already explained to that you. I'm not breaking any news to ya there. But regardless, Trump's gonna move forward and clean up Obama's awful mess. It is happening.

No. That's just not what is going on.

When Dems point to the central features, Republicans say they LIKE that. In fact, only half of Republicans want the ACA killed.

Basically, Republicans have made killing the ACA some sort of abstract and partisan objective regardless of what it actually is and does.

Also, note that Republicans can't figure out anything better - yet they want to kill what we have!!

If they could, we would have heard about it over the last 6 years.

. It's coming now, so get ready for it.

 

[Dschrute3]

Obamacare was a nightmare. You may not wanna acknowledge that, but it was the reality. The Mandate especially, should have never happened. But now it's dead. And i'm grateful to Trump for that.

ACA needed regulation, cost controls, and probably more subsidies temporarily, until costs were brought down, all mindlessly obstructed. Ok, wth is your plan? The problem is how ridiculously expensive our GOP health care has become the last 60 years..

Costs rapidly increased with the Obamacare disaster. But i understand you're just seeing what you wanna see. You're still in fanatical Obamabot-Defense Mode. It's a knee-jerk response for you.

You get what you paid for- guaranteed coverage with annual cap, coverage for pre-existing poor schnooks. Are we going back to scams and 750k bankruptcies, 500k for people who THOUGHT they had good coverage, LOSING EVERYTHING- and 40k DYING to avoid that?? Great job!

. So you are saying that the ACA is causing these things not to happen now or that it fixed these things ?? Can you give some examples on how the ACA stop these things, and how these things are a thing of the past because of the ACA ?

Yikes. Of course. Read something, dupe. Do you have internet?

Ha, you got nothing. Time for you to take your meds and go to bed. You're done.

 

[beagle9]

Any ideas like that should be ADDED to ACA, AND going after ridiculous costs. So you support tax on big sodas, limits? You are a Dem. lol

me a dem? no, I just want things that I dont use to be taxed to pay for the ACA, I dont want to be forced to pay. I can quit smoking, and I would just to make sure none of my money went to keeping a cockroach alive.
I hate to be cold but if someone refuses to better themselves and pay their own way, maybe it is for the good of society if they were to just get sick and die.
Society does not advance and evolution does not take place by keeping the weak and worthless in the gene pool.

Cockroaches? Nice- Only ignorance and bigotry make such bs possible. Enjoy hell. FIX ACA with all these ideas. Whatever system we have, if we even have one, should be cooperated with and TINKERED with forever. Make it Trumpcare, no one cares if it works, but going back to the GOP scam "system" is a horror. Invest in America instead of giving it away to the greedy idiot rich like the last 30 years...

the greedy idiot rich that work vs your version of an upstanding deserving intelligent citizen that does nothing but sits on their ass waiting for handouts from those greedy rich?
You seriously have things backwards in your world.
How about this, how about the lazy go ahead and get a job, earn some money and pay for their own needs for a change.

. Well to be fair, I work full time, and I have been working full time since I got out of school. Around 15 to 20 years ago the company supplied insurance programs began going crazy. Every 2 years they would come to us and say that we had to change insurance companies. So what we were doing was basically giving our money away for nothing. The policies became crap, and the rates kept going up, up, up, and up. Then we went for a time period where we weren't offered any insurance. All this bull crap began happening after Clinton signed that dam NAFTA trade deal it seemed, and after that companies started becoming less reliant or loyal to their American employees. Infact it seemed that after that the entire nation became highly unstable in many ways. Scams started to become common place, and trends of lying, cheating, and stealing also became common place. No one could be proud of anything America anymore, and it's why we are seeing the anarchy that we are seeing right now. The citizens don't trust anything anymore, and it's showing now big time. Rebellious little children this nations citizens have become now, and it's time to make America great again, but 1st the real culprits have to be identified, and reprogrammed.

The New BS GOP, duh. Reaganism rolls on, see sig. NAFTA failed because the GOP refuses cheap training and ed for good jobs produced and infrastructure investment, all to save the rich and giant corps who own them.

. It's a new day, and things are changing rapidly, so your tired old excuses will be no longer viable before long, then what ??

 

[beagle9]

Obamacare was a nightmare. You may not wanna acknowledge that, but it was the reality. The Mandate especially, should have never happened. But now it's dead. And i'm grateful to Trump for that.

ACA needed regulation, cost controls, and probably more subsidies temporarily, until costs were brought down, all mindlessly obstructed. Ok, wth is your plan? The problem is how ridiculously expensive our GOP health care has become the last 60 years..

Costs rapidly increased with the Obamacare disaster. But i understand you're just seeing what you wanna see. You're still in fanatical Obamabot-Defense Mode. It's a knee-jerk response for you.

You get what you paid for- guaranteed coverage with annual cap, coverage for pre-existing poor schnooks. Are we going back to scams and 750k bankruptcies, 500k for people who THOUGHT they had good coverage, LOSING EVERYTHING- and 40k DYING to avoid that?? Great job!

. So you are saying that the ACA is causing these things not to happen now or that it fixed these things ?? Can you give some examples on how the ACA stop these things, and how these things are a thing of the past because of the ACA ?

Yikes. Of course. Read something, dupe. Do you have internet?

. You made the claims, now back them up.

 

[Dschrute3]

ACA needed regulation, cost controls, and probably more subsidies temporarily, until costs were brought down, all mindlessly obstructed. Ok, wth is your plan? The problem is how ridiculously expensive our GOP health care has become the last 60 years..

Costs rapidly increased with the Obamacare disaster. But i understand you're just seeing what you wanna see. You're still in fanatical Obamabot-Defense Mode. It's a knee-jerk response for you.

You get what you paid for- guaranteed coverage with annual cap, coverage for pre-existing poor schnooks. Are we going back to scams and 750k bankruptcies, 500k for people who THOUGHT they had good coverage, LOSING EVERYTHING- and 40k DYING to avoid that?? Great job!

. So you are saying that the ACA is causing these things not to happen now or that it fixed these things ?? Can you give some examples on how the ACA stop these things, and how these things are a thing of the past because of the ACA ?

Yikes. Of course. Read something, dupe. Do you have internet?

. You made the claims, now back them up.

Ha, don't count on it. He's taking his meds and sucking on a juice box. His Mommy's putting him to bed. But he'll be back. And he'll still be deranged.

 

[francoHFW]

. We'll get ready to be shocked, because things are gonna get better.

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

You won't acknowledge success even if it does happen. You'll just continue to stick to your hateful 'Party before Country' shite. You won't be satisfied with anything a Republican does. You're a bit deranged. But i'm sure your doctors have already explained to that you. I'm not breaking any news to ya there. But regardless, Trump's gonna move forward and clean up Obama's awful mess. It is happening.

No. That's just not what is going on.

When Dems point to the central features, Republicans say they LIKE that. In fact, only half of Republicans want the ACA killed.

Basically, Republicans have made killing the ACA some sort of abstract and partisan objective regardless of what it actually is and does.

Also, note that Republicans can't figure out anything better - yet they want to kill what we have!!

If they could, we would have heard about it over the last 6 years.

. It's coming now, so get ready for it.

What is? You psychic or something?

 

[beagle9]

He or she will never acknowledge it. Their still stuck in Obamabot-Defense Mode. You can't reason with them. So don't waste too much time trying.

Just like things improved under W LOL...don't say I didn't say so. " I know- a big tax cut for the rich!!"

You won't acknowledge success even if it does happen. You'll just continue to stick to your hateful 'Party before Country' shite. You won't be satisfied with anything a Republican does. You're a bit deranged. But i'm sure your doctors have already explained to that you. I'm not breaking any news to ya there. But regardless, Trump's gonna move forward and clean up Obama's awful mess. It is happening.

No. That's just not what is going on.

When Dems point to the central features, Republicans say they LIKE that. In fact, only half of Republicans want the ACA killed.

Basically, Republicans have made killing the ACA some sort of abstract and partisan objective regardless of what it actually is and does.

Also, note that Republicans can't figure out anything better - yet they want to kill what we have!!

If they could, we would have heard about it over the last 6 years.

. It's coming now, so get ready for it.

What is? You psychic or something?

. Yep.

 

[francoHFW]

Costs rapidly increased with the Obamacare disaster. But i understand you're just seeing what you wanna see. You're still in fanatical Obamabot-Defense Mode. It's a knee-jerk response for you.

You get what you paid for- guaranteed coverage with annual cap, coverage for pre-existing poor schnooks. Are we going back to scams and 750k bankruptcies, 500k for people who THOUGHT they had good coverage, LOSING EVERYTHING- and 40k DYING to avoid that?? Great job!

. So you are saying that the ACA is causing these things not to happen now or that it fixed these things ?? Can you give some examples on how the ACA stop these things, and how these things are a thing of the past because of the ACA ?

Yikes. Of course. Read something, dupe. Do you have internet?

. You made the claims, now back them up.

Ha, don't count on it. He's taking his meds and sucking on a juice box. His Mommy's putting him to bed. But he'll be back. And he'll still be deranged.

Rtired, Masters in History, dupe. When you have guaranteed coverage (and for pre-existing people, etc), Meidcaid for poor Workers, subsidies, and an annual cap, it happens, dupes, duh. Except in red states. Great job!