Million mile+ batteries answer to vehicle pollution?

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I am all in favor of EV's when they are more efficient than that which they replace.
Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were taken over within 5 years. Do you work for them?
 

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I am all in favor of EV's when they are more efficient than that which they replace.
Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...




That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the production of the components. An EV is more polluting to make than a ICE powered vehicle. When the battery dies, it is a toxic mess.

Where do the dead batteries go? And at what cost. You are looking at a very narrow part of the issue. I am looking at the whole thing.


there are several recycling methods that are being worked,, its another of the give them time scenarios,,,




Indeed. And look at ALL of that expense. Like I said. I am in favor of improving battery technology. Hell I'm not in favor of it, I am a pure advocate of it. But, mandating usage of inefficient technologies actually SLOWS their improvement.
 

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I am all in favor of EV's when they are more efficient than that which they replace.
Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...




That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the production of the components. An EV is more polluting to make than a ICE powered vehicle. When the battery dies, it is a toxic mess.

Where do the dead batteries go? And at what cost. You are looking at a very narrow part of the issue. I am looking at the whole thing.


there are several recycling methods that are being worked,, its another of the give them time scenarios,,,




Indeed. And look at ALL of that expense. Like I said. I am in favor of improving battery technology. Hell I'm not in favor of it, I am a pure advocate of it. But, mandating usage of inefficient technologies actually SLOWS their improvement.
the government doesnt have power to mandate anything over free people,, just those that like to be controlled,,,
 

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I am all in favor of EV's when they are more efficient than that which they replace.
Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...




That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the production of the components. An EV is more polluting to make than a ICE powered vehicle. When the battery dies, it is a toxic mess.

Where do the dead batteries go? And at what cost. You are looking at a very narrow part of the issue. I am looking at the whole thing.


there are several recycling methods that are being worked,, its another of the give them time scenarios,,,




Indeed. And look at ALL of that expense. Like I said. I am in favor of improving battery technology. Hell I'm not in favor of it, I am a pure advocate of it. But, mandating usage of inefficient technologies actually SLOWS their improvement.
the government doesnt have power to mandate anything over free people,, just those that like to be controlled,,,



And yet government IS mandating massive cost to consumers though thanks to a false narrative, pushed by a compliant media.
 

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I am all in favor of EV's when they are more efficient than that which they replace.
Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...




That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the production of the components. An EV is more polluting to make than a ICE powered vehicle. When the battery dies, it is a toxic mess.

Where do the dead batteries go? And at what cost. You are looking at a very narrow part of the issue. I am looking at the whole thing.


there are several recycling methods that are being worked,, its another of the give them time scenarios,,,




Indeed. And look at ALL of that expense. Like I said. I am in favor of improving battery technology. Hell I'm not in favor of it, I am a pure advocate of it. But, mandating usage of inefficient technologies actually SLOWS their improvement.
the government doesnt have power to mandate anything over free people,, just those that like to be controlled,,,



And yet government IS mandating massive cost to consumers though thanks to a false narrative, pushed by a compliant media.
dont confuse dems and repubes with government,, they are just the infiltraitors currently controlling power,,,
 

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After their mental masturbation. That’s the model. Not the observation. Models are biased to the answer they seek.
If you're disputing your own citation ... maybe you should withdraw your citation ... instead post the observed values ...
 

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Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were taken over within 5 years. Do you work for them?
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BPA is US Army ... Corps of Engineering ... any time there's talk of privatizing, Portland erupts in rioting ... that's only ten miles from Bonneville Dam ... the potential liabilities on the project for private business is too great ... generally speaking, the military gets a pass on all that ... just the plutonium alone would drive private business away ...
 

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Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were taken over within 5 years. Do you work for them?
BPA is US Army ... Corps of Engineering ... any time there's talk of privatizing, Portland erupts in rioting ... that's only ten miles from Bonneville Dam ... the potential liabilities on the project for private business is too great ... generally speaking, the military gets a pass on all that ... just the plutonium alone would drive private business away ...
How do you get BPA from US Army ... Corps of Engineering?
 

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After their mental masturbation. That’s the model. Not the observation. Models are biased to the answer they seek.
If you're disputing your own citation ... maybe you should withdraw your citation ... instead post the observed values ...
No thanks. I'm happy enough to wait for them to start releasing methane to counter the global cooling they are ushering in.
 

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How do you get BPA from US Army ... Corps of Engineering?
This starts with the 50 foot by 50 foot signs on all the dams ... and the uniformed MP's guarding all the entrances to the property ... 6.3¢ per kW-hr is the true evil of socialism ... an unholy price if I might say so ...
 

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Free EV charging stations are common around here ... businesses install them to bring in more business ... God knows how I love BPA ...
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were taken over within 5 years. Do you work for them?
BPA is US Army ... Corps of Engineering ... any time there's talk of privatizing, Portland erupts in rioting ... that's only ten miles from Bonneville Dam ... the potential liabilities on the project for private business is too great ... generally speaking, the military gets a pass on all that ... just the plutonium alone would drive private business away ...
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No it's not. The GSA Blanket Purchase Agreement is just that. The Corp of Engineers has nothing to do with it.
 

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How do you get BPA from US Army ... Corps of Engineering?
This starts with the 50 foot by 50 foot signs on all the dams ... and the uniformed MP's guarding all the entrances to the property ... 6.3¢ per kW-hr is the true evil of socialism ... an unholy price if I might say so ...
Still don't get the TLA.

Of course the true evil of socialism is the destruction of man's spirit but that's a story for another thread.
 

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Two EV'S in every driveway, solar panels on every roof and a chicken in every pot.

Brrrrr... it's cold.

turn back on the CO2.gif
 

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Oh... I get it. BPA.

Riiiiiiiight.
 

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