Military is Issued Warning That No ‘Disrespect’ of Biden Will Be Allowed Over Afghanistan Debacle

RE: Do you trust our military in event of martial law?
SUBTOPIC: The Unthinkable
⁜→ et al,

BLUF: We have to stick to our oath here. No disrespect.

(COMMENT)

If you disagree, you demonstrate that disagreement within the body of American Law, at the voting booth. THE President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief. We have to live and respect our laws in that regard, for as long as HE is the CINC.

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Most Respectfully,
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There was a time when the oath was taken to protect and defend the constitution rather than serving the arbitrary whims of a reckless, authoritarian ruler who demonstrates no regard for the constitution.

That's been forgotten as time passes. To the extent that the latter mindset has become standard protocol. Even among many active military personnel.

Anyway. Par for the course...

Isn't it against all enemies foreign or domestic?
 
It's a fact that veterans are retired service members, not an opinion, idiot.
Retired means you have served your 20 years and are collecting a pension, not that you were in the service and fullfilled your contract obligations
 
The military has changed after years of Clinton and Obama. The ranks are packed with woke SJW types who could never meet the standards of only twenty years ago

Twenty years ago. You are aware that is after President Clinton, right?

And I take this is from a lot of experience serving during both eras?
 
In general I can't see them applying UCMJ to a retiree for posting disrespectful comments about a president.

Generally, that would at most only happen if what was said was way outside the expected behavior, and the person went out of their way to identify themselves as being military or retired military.

Unlike what some people think, you do not lose your 1st Amendment Rights when you join the military. You just have to be a bit more careful where and how you say things. I as Mr. Mushroom can say anything I damned near want, so long as it is respectful and done with tact. But if I identify myself by rank and affiliation, the same thing even, just tactfully.

But to go on a flame attack at "full retard", then I am asking to get stomped on by the boot of the UCMJ. And this is nothing new, it has been official policy for decades. Just as what we can and can not do in uniform. I can literally wear my formal uniform to any function I want, within limits. After all, technically it is our version of a suit or tux. See a show, attend a wedding, even go to a class reunion. The inauguration or celebration of an election of a political figure is even allowed.

But not to go to a political rally, that crosses the line between giving approval, and just celebrating the election. We can still attend political rallies, just not in uniform is all. Kind of like some that got UCMJ'ed for attending "Gay Pride" events in uniform. Not for going, but for wearing the uniform to what was essentially all too often a quasi-political event. Go ahead and go, just leave the damned uniform at home.

Now if Mr. Smith wrote a demeaning letter, that would likely be ignored. But if CPO Smith (retired) wrote one that was full of flame and bringing in his service over and over, then it might indeed get them in trouble by their own bringing up their military affiliation.
 
Respect the rank, not the man. To even think they need to remind folks of that pretty much says it all. Biden and his whole administration screwed up.
 
Twenty years ago. You are aware that is after President Clinton, right?

And I take this is from a lot of experience serving during both eras?
Yes I am aware of that. Despite Clinton as president standards were higher in the 90s and early 2000s.

Yes I joined in 84 and retired in 07
 
RE: Do you trust our military in event of martial law?
SUBTOPIC: The Unthinkable
⁜→ et al,

BLUF: We have to stick to our oath here. No disrespect.

(COMMENT)

If you disagree, you demonstrate that disagreement within the body of American Law, at the voting booth. THE President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief. We have to live and respect our laws in that regard, for as long as HE is the CINC.

The military itself has only rarely been used for enforcement of civilian laws. And either in an area that was hard hit by a disaster, under martial law (Civil War), or at the request of the State and Local Authorities. Notice, not National Authorities, but State and Local.

One of the most recent I can remember that did not involve a disaster was the 1992 LA Riots, when the Governor of California requested the Marines to help patrol the streets of LA. And Governor Wilson was himself a Marine (and actually swore me into the Corps), and over 2,000 from Camp Pendleton responded and set up checkpoints and set up patrols in some of the hardest hit areas. That was in addition to over 10,000 National Guard.

One of the few instances I can think of that goes against this is the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake. Where they mobilized without request to help put a stop to the fires and looting. But a big chunk of the city at that time was the Presidio, the largest Army base on the West Coast, And local authority was completely shattered, so there really was nobody to request assistance at the time. Local Authority did make a retroactive request for help, but that was only technical as they had already started patrolling the streets and trying to stop the fires.

I find most that are paranoid about the "military stepping in" never served, and are simply talking out of fear and not facts or reality. But those that took the oath take that oath very seriously, and would refuse to follow such orders to "mobilize" without full legal authority.
 

Military is Issued Warning That No ‘Disrespect’ of Biden Will Be Allowed Over Afghanistan Debacle​

28 Aug 2021 ~~ By Kyle Becker
The U.S. military is warning both active duty and retired service members that no “disrespect” of President Biden will be tolerated.
The Office of Naval Intelligence’s Chief of Staff recently emailed service members to remind them of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ prohibits the public questioning of the President, the Vice President, Congress, or the Secretary of Defense, among others. The email was obtained by the Daily Wire on Friday. It reads as follows:
"Given the heightened political and social atmosphere surrounding Afghanistan, it is important to remind our uniformed personnel (active duty and reservists on temporary active duty) and military retirees of their responsibilities and obligations under Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and Department of Defense Directive 1344.10. While it is vital to protect the constitutional right of freedom of expression for these groups, consistent with mission accomplishment, national security, and good order and discipline, it’s important to remember certain limitations. Namely, uniformed personnel and military retirees are prohibited from disrespecting senior government leadership (e.g. the President, Vice President, Congress, Secretary of Defense, Service Secretaries, etc.)".
The criticism of the U.S. ‘Commander-in-Chief’ has been non-stop since his August decision to withdraw the U.S. military from Afghanistan prior to securing military equipment and evacuating civilians.
President Joe Biden earlier ignored warnings from top generals and the Pentagon and proceeded with an immediate withdrawal. The ill-advised decision left thousands in harm’s way and ushered in the precipitous fall of the nation to the Taliban after nearly two decades of war. The decision has now led to the deaths of 13 American service members, as Becker News first reported on Thursday.
The military advice given to President Biden was detailed in a Wall Street Journal article following his initial speech on the Afghanistan withdrawal.
“The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability,” the Wall Street Journal reported. “Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who previously served as a military commander in the region, said a full withdrawal wouldn’t provide any insurance against instability.”
“In a series of meetings leading up to his decision, military and intelligence officials told Mr. Biden that security was deteriorating in Afghanistan, and they expressed concerns both about the capabilities of the Afghan military and the Taliban’s likely ability to take over major Afghan cities,” the report continued.
Meanwhile, a Marine commander, Lt. Col. Stu Scheller, reports that he was relieved for cause after posting a viral video that called on the military’s top brass to show ‘accountability’ for their disastrous handling of the Afghanistan exit.
“People are upset because senior leaders let them down,” Lt. Col. Scheller said. “And none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying ‘we messed this up.’”
~Snip~
The U.S. military’s insistence that military officers not criticize the Commander-in-Chief is in accordance with the UCMJ. However, there is no action being taken at this time against ‘Woke’ soldiers who push radical causes on their social media outlets in violation of military code.
When it comes to U.S. military justice, all the troops are all equal. But some troops are more equal than others.

Comment:
Hmm.... appropriate action taken by a tyrannical budding dictatorship...
Heaven forbid we call a spade a spade, or recognize incompetence when we see it. Officers and our men in the Military are not fools or chattels.. Bai Dung is wrong, he Knows it, the military knows it and the people know it! We will have to see if the people can remember it until the next election and get rid of this incompetent if not sooner.
Didn't we hang German soldiers after WWII for claiming they were following orders? Is the President and our Ruling General in the Pentagon demanding the same from our Officers, Non-commissioned Officers and soldiers to blindly follow the orders of a markedly man afflicted with Alzheimer's Dementia.
All in all it is the right of every American civilian or soldier to demand accountability of our C&C and Generals for their incompetence and cowardice in the face of our enemies. If not then we've become the Nazi's and Commies we've fought long to defeat.
America learned nothing from the Nuremberg trials.
You do go on with a lot of propaganda.
 
You do go on with a lot of propaganda.


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"Given the heightened political and social atmosphere surrounding Afghanistan, it is important to remind our uniformed personnel (active duty and reservists on temporary active duty) and military retirees of their responsibilities and obligations under Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and Department of Defense Directive 1344.10. While it is vital to protect the constitutional right of freedom of expression for these groups, consistent with mission accomplishment, national security, and good order and discipline, it’s important to remember certain limitations. Namely, uniformed personnel and military retirees are prohibited from disrespecting senior government leadership (e.g. the President, Vice President, Congress, Secretary of Defense, Service Secretaries, etc.)."

However, there is no action being taken at this time against ‘Woke’ soldiers who push radical causes on their social media outlets in violation of military code.
 
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"Given the heightened political and social atmosphere surrounding Afghanistan, it is important to remind our uniformed personnel (active duty and reservists on temporary active duty) and military retirees of their responsibilities and obligations under Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and Department of Defense Directive 1344.10. While it is vital to protect the constitutional right of freedom of expression for these groups, consistent with mission accomplishment, national security, and good order and discipline, it’s important to remember certain limitations. Namely, uniformed personnel and military retirees are prohibited from disrespecting senior government leadership (e.g. the President, Vice President, Congress, Secretary of Defense, Service Secretaries, etc.)."

However, there is no action being taken at this time against ‘Woke’ soldiers who push radical causes on their social media outlets in violation of military code.
I reiterate what I said.
 

Military is Issued Warning That No ‘Disrespect’ of Biden Will Be Allowed Over Afghanistan Debacle​

28 Aug 2021 ~~ By Kyle Becker
The U.S. military is warning both active duty and retired service members that no “disrespect” of President Biden will be tolerated.
The Office of Naval Intelligence’s Chief of Staff recently emailed service members to remind them of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ prohibits the public questioning of the President, the Vice President, Congress, or the Secretary of Defense, among others. The email was obtained by the Daily Wire on Friday. It reads as follows:
"Given the heightened political and social atmosphere surrounding Afghanistan, it is important to remind our uniformed personnel (active duty and reservists on temporary active duty) and military retirees of their responsibilities and obligations under Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and Department of Defense Directive 1344.10. While it is vital to protect the constitutional right of freedom of expression for these groups, consistent with mission accomplishment, national security, and good order and discipline, it’s important to remember certain limitations. Namely, uniformed personnel and military retirees are prohibited from disrespecting senior government leadership (e.g. the President, Vice President, Congress, Secretary of Defense, Service Secretaries, etc.)".
The criticism of the U.S. ‘Commander-in-Chief’ has been non-stop since his August decision to withdraw the U.S. military from Afghanistan prior to securing military equipment and evacuating civilians.
President Joe Biden earlier ignored warnings from top generals and the Pentagon and proceeded with an immediate withdrawal. The ill-advised decision left thousands in harm’s way and ushered in the precipitous fall of the nation to the Taliban after nearly two decades of war. The decision has now led to the deaths of 13 American service members, as Becker News first reported on Thursday.
The military advice given to President Biden was detailed in a Wall Street Journal article following his initial speech on the Afghanistan withdrawal.
“The president’s top generals, including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley, urged Mr. Biden to keep a force of about 2,500 troops, the size he inherited, while seeking a peace agreement between warring Afghan factions, to help maintain stability,” the Wall Street Journal reported. “Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who previously served as a military commander in the region, said a full withdrawal wouldn’t provide any insurance against instability.”
“In a series of meetings leading up to his decision, military and intelligence officials told Mr. Biden that security was deteriorating in Afghanistan, and they expressed concerns both about the capabilities of the Afghan military and the Taliban’s likely ability to take over major Afghan cities,” the report continued.
Meanwhile, a Marine commander, Lt. Col. Stu Scheller, reports that he was relieved for cause after posting a viral video that called on the military’s top brass to show ‘accountability’ for their disastrous handling of the Afghanistan exit.
“People are upset because senior leaders let them down,” Lt. Col. Scheller said. “And none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying ‘we messed this up.’”
~Snip~
The U.S. military’s insistence that military officers not criticize the Commander-in-Chief is in accordance with the UCMJ. However, there is no action being taken at this time against ‘Woke’ soldiers who push radical causes on their social media outlets in violation of military code.
When it comes to U.S. military justice, all the troops are all equal. But some troops are more equal than others.

Comment:
Hmm.... appropriate action taken by a tyrannical budding dictatorship...
Heaven forbid we call a spade a spade, or recognize incompetence when we see it. Officers and our men in the Military are not fools or chattels.. Bai Dung is wrong, he Knows it, the military knows it and the people know it! We will have to see if the people can remember it until the next election and get rid of this incompetent if not sooner.
Didn't we hang German soldiers after WWII for claiming they were following orders? Is the President and our Ruling General in the Pentagon demanding the same from our Officers, Non-commissioned Officers and soldiers to blindly follow the orders of a markedly man afflicted with Alzheimer's Dementia.
All in all it is the right of every American civilian or soldier to demand accountability of our C&C and Generals for their incompetence and cowardice in the face of our enemies. If not then we've become the Nazi's and Commies we've fought long to defeat.
America learned nothing from the Nuremberg trials.
The tyrannical, budding dictatorship was being fomented by Tump and nobody else.
 
This is standard protocol and has been pretty much forever.
You think so? Where was this call from the military for respect and civility towards the president during the Trump years?

Just another sign that Joe Biden is in trouble and does not like any sort of criticism whatsoever.
 

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