Military, Government, Architects, Engineers, Scientists, DON'T believe 9/11 story

[Christophera]

Do you have any comprehension about the thousands of workers who were involved in the construction of the towers or that there has been asbestos litigation concerning the towers and that these documents have been in the public domain for 30 years?

Good truthers are idiots

You've basically made no point. If there is one what is it? What documents?


Do you have another point about "idiots".

 

[Fizz]

The infiltrators of the US government have removed all of the construction photos from any publically available source that show the concrete.

prove it. otherwise you are just blowing more hot air and are not being truthful in your statements as shown below.

The perpetrators of mass murder would not want people to know what Newsweek learned from Leslie Robertson, the lead engineer of the Twin Towers and the fact that he identified a concrete core on September 13, 2001.

you claim that leslie robertson told newsweek that he identified a concrete core. upon reading your article that is clearly not the case. while robertson is quoted often in the article it is the person writing the story that claims there is a concrete core, not robertson.

 

[Christophera]

The infiltrators of the US government have removed all of the construction photos from any publically available source that show the concrete.

prove it. otherwise you are just blowing more hot air and are not being truthful in your statements as shown below.

Here is proof of thick concrete walls 400 feet off the ground falling into the core area.

If a concrete core existed and no one can find construction photos of it, then the perpetrators that have infiltrated the US govenrment took them. No one else would.

I've proven that Dr. Ron Larsen. PhD. found records in librarys and inside PBS showing "The Engineering and Construction of the Twins Towers" was listed.

http://algoxy.com/psych/audio/rl-cb6-27-07pbs.doc_1-2.mp3

The perpetrators of mass murder would not want people to know what Newsweek learned from Leslie Robertson, the lead engineer of the Twin Towers and the fact that he identified a concrete core on September 13, 2001.

you claim that leslie robertson told newsweek that he identified a concrete core. upon reading your article that is clearly not the case. while robertson is quoted often in the article it is the person writing the story that claims there is a concrete core, not robertson.

Are you saying that Robertson did not demand a correction when the deaths of 3,000 was termed a collapse of the building he was responsible for as an engineer, or that Newsweek refused to publish a correction?

There is no independently varified evidence for the steel core columns as does exist for the concrete core. For example, a compeltely independent source identifies a concrete core.

Oxford encyclopedia of Technology and Inovation that was published in 1992.

 

[Trojan]

Do you have any comprehension about the thousands of workers who were involved in the construction of the towers or that there has been asbestos litigation concerning the towers and that these documents have been in the public domain for 30 years?

Good truthers are idiots

You've basically made no point. If there is one what is it? What documents?


Do you have another point about "idiots".

The complete construction documents, time lines, deposition testimony of contractors etc. is all publically available and was well documented for over a decade or more before 9/11

The towers have been the subject of asbestos litigation since the late 1980's -- every conceivable document has been reviewed and produced in litigation.

Weitz and Luxenberg is the chief plaintiffs counsel, call them and ask for a chance to review the document production.

Thousands have been deposed, there are no secrets concerning the construction. I've worked on WTC asbestos cases for over 12 years, this is the most supid claim ever.

 

[Fizz]

If a concrete core existed and no one can find construction photos of it, then the perpetrators that have infiltrated the US govenrment took them. No one else would.

you have just proven yourself to be a raging lunatic. your proof of a government conspiracy is "i cant find any pictures"!!!!

Are you saying that Robertson did not demand a correction when the deaths of 3,000 was termed a collapse of the building he was responsible for as an engineer, or that Newsweek refused to publish a correction?

are you saying you know that he didnt?

There is no independently varified evidence for the steel core columns as does exist for the concrete core. For example, a compeltely independent source identifies a concrete core.

Oxford encyclopedia of Technology and Inovation that was published in 1992.

and a tv show in which robertson is an active participant goes into detail by saying there WAS NO CONCRETE
NOVA | Transcripts | Why the Towers Fell | PBS

the entire concrete core thing is just slightly above completely irrelevant. the buildings came down because THEY WERE HIT BY AIRPLANES!! what a fucking moron you are. when you die and try to enter heaven jesus is going to personally appear before you and smack the crap out of you for being such a complete idiot.

 

[Christophera]

If a concrete core existed and no one can find construction photos of it, then the perpetrators that have infiltrated the US govenrment took them. No one else would.

you have just proven yourself to be a raging lunatic. your proof of a government conspiracy is "i cant find any pictures"!!!! .

That is a cognitive distortion of "Over generalization"

2. Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous.

And it is an error. I can find plently of 9-11 images where structures are undergoing distructive testing and the steel core columns didn't exist because the core is empty and IF they existed, they would be seen in the core.

So really, lack of photographic evidence is your problem because I can show what is massive concrete as the core. The WTC 2 concrete core.

You are also "Minimizing"

4. Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.

and "Labeling"

10. Labeling: Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.

Your act is all psyops behavior having no substance.

See the page,

FEMA misrepresented core structure of the Twin Towers.

 

[Fizz]

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That is a cognitive distortion of "Over generalization"

you are a paranoid lunatic.

you think that because you cant find any pictures of a concrete core that it is because the government has some vast conspiracy to remove any photo evidence of concrete that has ever existed.

sorry dude, over generalization or not, thats just plain fucking WHACKO!!!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Ah are your witnesses maybe not as clean as you would like them to be? I could dig deeper if you would like. And I am not making the claims I simply wanted to know who these people were that out ranked me and believed in Bull Shit at the same time.

Found out that they may not be the brightest bulbs in the pack. Why doesn't that surprise me?

uh...because you are an idiot ?

thats the understatement of the year on Gomer Pyle here.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Ah are your witnesses maybe not as clean as you would like them to be? I could dig deeper if you would like. And I am not making the claims I simply wanted to know who these people were that out ranked me and believed in Bull Shit at the same time.

Found out that they may not be the brightest bulbs in the pack. Why doesn't that surprise me?

uh...because you are an idiot ?

thats the understatement of the year on Gomer Pyle here.

Wow I must have missed that, Eots actually agrees with me that these folks weren't to bright. Thank you Eots. (we'll just pretend that 911 is silent) (as he/she/it should be when grownups are talking)

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse.lol
People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11

 

[Fizz]

Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse.lol
People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

 

[rightwinger]

Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse.lol
People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

Truthers don't have to read....facts mess up their theories

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse.lol
People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

thats something YOU might actually want to try, Proof that you are delusional and like fellow disinfo agents Ollie and Rightwinger,you only see and hear what you WANT to see.hahahahahaha.

Proof that you are delusional right there in that fact it says right there in black and white they do not accept the governments version that the fires caused the towers to collapse and said quite a few times that only explosives could have brought them down.proof you never read links or videos that prove explosives brought the towers down.you might want to try that sometime in your life disinfo agent.

knowing you though,you have the same logic as fellow disinfo agents rightwinger who trolls here saying oswald killed kennedyyou fellow disinfo agents only see what you WANT to see.hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.thansk for saying that,it further ruins your credibility in proofs your delusional.hahahahahaha

 

[Fizz]

Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse.lol
People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

thats something YOU might actually want to try, Proof that you are delusional and like fellow disinfo agents Ollie and Rightwinger,you only see and hear what you WANT to see.hahahahahaha.

Proof that you are delusional right there in that fact it says right there in black and white they do not accept the governments version that the fires caused the towers to collapse and said quite a few times that only explosives could have brought them down.proof you never read links or videos that prove explosives brought the towers down.you might want to try that sometime in your life disinfo agent.

knowing you though,you have the same logic as fellow disinfo agents rightwinger who trolls here saying oswald killed kennedyyou fellow disinfo agents only see what you WANT to see.hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.thansk for saying that,it further ruins your credibility in proofs your delusional.hahahahahaha

its YOUR link and what it says is.....and this is a quote.... "PEOPLE WITH DEMOLITION EXPERTISE QUESTIONING 9/11"

you are putting words in other people's mouths again. why cant you just be honest?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

thats something YOU might actually want to try, Proof that you are delusional and like fellow disinfo agents Ollie and Rightwinger,you only see and hear what you WANT to see.hahahahahaha.

Proof that you are delusional right there in that fact it says right there in black and white they do not accept the governments version that the fires caused the towers to collapse and said quite a few times that only explosives could have brought them down.proof you never read links or videos that prove explosives brought the towers down.you might want to try that sometime in your life disinfo agent.

knowing you though,you have the same logic as fellow disinfo agents rightwinger who trolls here saying oswald killed kennedyyou fellow disinfo agents only see what you WANT to see.hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.thansk for saying that,it further ruins your credibility in proofs your delusional.hahahahahaha

its YOUR link and what it says is.....and this is a quote.... "PEOPLE WITH DEMOLITION EXPERTISE QUESTIONING 9/11"

you are putting words in other people's mouths again. why cant you just be honest?

thanks for proving you never read anything more than just the title alone and never clicked on the link and only see what you WANT to see. Look below,these demo experts are saying explosives brought them down agent.

Tim Erney

A & P
A.S. Aviation Maintenance Technology

Bio: Licensed A & P mechanic. U.S. Army Reserve, Combat Engineer, Specialized in Demolitions, Honorable Discharge.

Personal 9/11 Statement:
"In the Army Reserves I was trained in demolitions so I know what it takes to bring down a building in a controlled symmetrical fashion and what it looks like when it happens. As an aircraft mechanic, my knowledge of the properties of fuels, specifically Jet fuel (or highly refined kerosene), brings the conclusion that fires couldn't be hot enough to cause symmetrical structural collapse. Based on what I know, looking at it from various disciplines, it's obvious that all three WTC buildings collapsed due to pre-planned, well placed, precisely timed controlled demolitions."


John Suffoletta

Journeymen Operating Engineer

Bio: demolition of steel and concrete buildings, also some wood structures

Personal 9/11 Statement:
I believe I have the experience to know the difference between an implosion or a building consumed by fire to the point of collapse. I actually run the equipment that rips and tears these buildings down, and I know what it takes! A building consumed with fire would droop , contort and lean to the weakest point before falling! It would not fall straight to the ground in nice net truck length pieces, with the concrete almost completely pulverized.
Lähettänyt Truthseeker klo 13:39


Terral Lee Croft

General Contractor / Demolition Supervisor

Bio: General Contractor Experience, 30 years' experience

Personal 9/11 Statement:

"My father and his father were General Contractors proficient in demolition and new construction and I am the product of their combined experience. I designed and built my first commercial building at the tender age of twenty-two years old.

WTC-7 was built using Compartmentalization of all supporting columns, beams and girders using solid concrete slabs (horizontal) and curtain walls (vertical), which disqualifies 'fire' from being the cause of this collapse. The columns were encased in gypsum wallboard and/or coated with 3-hour 'spray on' protective insulation. Typical building fires burn at around 800 degrees, but the red iron in WTC-7 requires 2800 degrees to begin melting. There is no way 'all' of the steel supports were severed by any fire in just a few hours, unless controlled demolition was carefully planned and executed by demolition specialists. Building fires typically burn in one area for about 20 minutes, before the fuel is extinguished, which is why no steel-framed skyscraper has ever burned down before or after 9/11."


David C. Avina

 

[rightwinger]

Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse.lol
People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

thats something YOU might actually want to try, Proof that you are delusional and like fellow disinfo agents Ollie and Rightwinger,you only see and hear what you WANT to see.hahahahahaha.

Proof that you are delusional right there in that fact it says right there in black and white they do not accept the governments version that the fires caused the towers to collapse and said quite a few times that only explosives could have brought them down.proof you never read links or videos that prove explosives brought the towers down.you might want to try that sometime in your life disinfo agent.

knowing you though,you have the same logic as fellow disinfo agents rightwinger who trolls here saying oswald killed kennedyyou fellow disinfo agents only see what you WANT to see.hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.thansk for saying that,it further ruins your credibility in proofs your delusional.hahahahahaha

Ollie and Rightwinger conspiring against you?

Never thought I would see the day I was on the same side as Ollie

 

[SFC Ollie]

thats not what they are saying at all!!!! READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK!!!!

thats something YOU might actually want to try, Proof that you are delusional and like fellow disinfo agents Ollie and Rightwinger,you only see and hear what you WANT to see.hahahahahaha.

Proof that you are delusional right there in that fact it says right there in black and white they do not accept the governments version that the fires caused the towers to collapse and said quite a few times that only explosives could have brought them down.proof you never read links or videos that prove explosives brought the towers down.you might want to try that sometime in your life disinfo agent.

knowing you though,you have the same logic as fellow disinfo agents rightwinger who trolls here saying oswald killed kennedyyou fellow disinfo agents only see what you WANT to see.hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.thansk for saying that,it further ruins your credibility in proofs your delusional.hahahahahaha

Ollie and Rightwinger conspiring against you?

Never thought I would see the day I was on the same side as Ollie

There is always something we can agree on.

 

[Fizz]

thanks for proving you never read anything more than just the title alone and never clicked on the link and only see what you WANT to see. Look below,these demo experts are saying explosives brought them down agent.

you are an ass. you present a link that says People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11 and claim "Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse."

its not the same fucking thing, jerkoff. you are misrepresenting what the list is. not all the people on the list are saying they they dont believe the tower collapse. for instance this guy:

David C. Avina

Engineer
BSME

Bio: Project Construction Manager 15 years of heavy utility and Industrial construction experience, and 5 years of operations. I also have 10 years of project engineer experience in the construction of large utility power plants and industrial process facilities . In this capacity my responsibility exposed me to all phases of construction practices and procedures from demolition, civil, structural, mechanical electrical controls, and through startup and commissioning.

for all you know he may be questioning the official version of the pentagon attack. again, read your own fucking link!!!!

 

[CurveLight]

thanks for proving you never read anything more than just the title alone and never clicked on the link and only see what you WANT to see. Look below,these demo experts are saying explosives brought them down agent.

you are an ass. you present a link that says People with demolition expertise questioning 9/11 and claim "Demolition experts also dont believe the official story about the towers collapse."

its not the same fucking thing, jerkoff. you are misrepresenting what the list is. not all the people on the list are saying they they dont believe the tower collapse. for instance this guy:

David C. Avina

Engineer
BSME

Bio: Project Construction Manager 15 years of heavy utility and Industrial construction experience, and 5 years of operations. I also have 10 years of project engineer experience in the construction of large utility power plants and industrial process facilities . In this capacity my responsibility exposed me to all phases of construction practices and procedures from demolition, civil, structural, mechanical electrical controls, and through startup and commissioning.

for all you know he may be questioning the official version of the pentagon attack. again, read your own fucking link!!!!

You are nitpicking over some really dumb shit just to attempt a poor excuse to not address the info. He didn't name the blog. Do you have a response to David Avina's statement or will you claim he isn't credible by his hairstyle?

 

[Fizz]

[
You are nitpicking over some really dumb shit just to attempt a poor excuse to not address the info. He didn't name the blog. Do you have a response to David Avina's statement or will you claim he isn't credible by his hairstyle?

nitpicking? these people are asking for a new investigation and you change that to "dont believe 9/11 story"

that isnt nitpicking. that is catching you being deceitful and lying.