Abbey Normal
Senior Member
why are all the dudes behinde him dressed like they are from east LA?
Heh. There's also the KKK guy on the left.
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why are all the dudes behinde him dressed like they are from east LA?
Probably the same impact western society has had on Iraq with 40,000 civilian deaths since the invasion fo Iraq. I'm talking more every day life/culturally. Islam has had no impact on my every day life. I can read what I like, eat what I like, pray or not pray...No western civilisation (including Europe) has had any tangible negative affects of Islam in their every day life. Islam is only militant in the ME and parts of the former Soviet Republic, and even small parts of India. Outsida that, nada. Sure, it has made Westerners more aware of them, and there has been the odd attack (in London, the Cole and 9-11), but they would argue (especially Bin Laden) that it is a direct result of Western influence in their part of the world. I believe that if the west hadn't/wasn't propping up the likes of Saudi Arabia 9-11 would never have happened. No, Islam has had minimal impact on the west culturally. The Chicken Little crowd tend to take the extremists in any cause and treat them as the norm. AQ et al are not the norm.
Not to mention that tonight they riot over the Pontiff's quotes, which he purposely said were quotes, twice. A nun has been murdered, a priest taken captive, probably killed. Demands for the pontiff to be killed have been made.Absolutely! Except that Islam knocked down the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, killed commuters in the London subways and in Spain and what was that burning smell in France this past spring... the smell of young Islamic youth burning cars.....
you're right, no impact at all....
Not to mention that tonight they riot over the Pontiff's quotes, which he purposely said were quotes, twice. A nun has been murdered, a priest taken captive, probably killed. Demands for the pontiff to be killed have been made.
Months back, the excuse for killing, burning, rioting were cartoons.
Before that, France because they ghettoized.
Before that, Palestine.
And so it goes...
Bottom line, they are upfront: Convert or die.
Not to mention that tonight they riot over the Pontiff's quotes, which he purposely said were quotes, twice. A nun has been murdered, a priest taken captive, probably killed. Demands for the pontiff to be killed have been made.
Months back, the excuse for killing, burning, rioting were cartoons.
Before that, France because they ghettoized.
Before that, Palestine.
And so it goes...
Bottom line, they are upfront: Convert or die.
I just wonder what it has to do before complete freakin' morons, such as a few we know and DON'T love, get a clue? Does it take some raghead with an AK-47 on the front step?
I just wonder what it has to do before complete freakin' morons, such as a few we know and DON'T love, get a clue? Does it take some raghead with an AK-47 on the front step?
Sounds about right
That would not be enough. Two planes into WTC, one into Pentagon, one meant for Capitol, were not enough...
Must be bigger, but I'm sure they will do so.
Bigger... Better.... more Spectacular.... Many more deaths......:clap1:
Probably the same impact western society has had on Iraq with 40,000 civilian deaths since the invasion fo Iraq. I'm talking more every day life/culturally. Islam has had no impact on my every day life. I can read what I like, eat what I like, pray or not pray...No western civilisation (including Europe) has had any tangible negative affects of Islam in their every day life. Islam is only militant in the ME and parts of the former Soviet Republic, and even small parts of India. Outsida that, nada. Sure, it has made Westerners more aware of them, and there has been the odd attack (in London, the Cole and 9-11), but they would argue (especially Bin Laden) that it is a direct result of Western influence in their part of the world. I believe that if the west hadn't/wasn't propping up the likes of Saudi Arabia 9-11 would never have happened. No, Islam has had minimal impact on the west culturally. The Chicken Little crowd tend to take the extremists in any cause and treat them as the norm. AQ et al are not the norm.
Pastor Martin Niemöller said:First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Since they don't currently threaten your perceived reality, you do not perceive them to be a threat. You might want to re-examine your perception of reality and compare it to what these muslims are threatening. You might find that the enemy of your enemy might still be your enemy as well, and not your friend. Read Pastor Martin Niemöller's statement above and then reflect on the dictates of Medina Islam and how it would affect your life should you come to live in a majority muslim area.
islam has little or no impact on Western society. You guys give it way more credit than it deserves.
This all reminds me of an old classic monster movie called The Thing From Another World (remade into The Thing). It was about a group of scientists and army guys in the Arctic who dig up a space ship and one of its inhabitants. Most of the scientists and soldiers realize that this giant life form is a giant threat. But one of them decides that it is just misunderstood, and they should all just try to understand it and be nice to it. Then it will surely stop the senseless killing. He probably even thought the other guys were being alienphobic.
Can you guess what happened to him? Dead. The monster didn't care about the men or their intentions. He just wanted to kill them.
Eventually, the realistic tougher guys had to destroy the monster, before it destroyed all of them.
I know it's pointless to even bother asking this, but I'm going to anyway.
Why is that people like you go out of your way to defend, or dismiss, Islam?
Why is that? You are posting on message board. You have access to all the information required to have an informed opinion about what Islam is, what it's purpose is, what's it's followers are doing, and have been doing for many years.
To say that Islam has no impact on Western society is pretty stupid. But yet you really do believe that. It boggles.
It is people like you and Cocky who like to get people in a lather over nothing. Sure there are bad muslims, but there are bad people everywhere.
The media doesn't help. Outside of Iraq, more non-muslims are murdered by other non-muslims in the US alone each year, let alone the rest of the western world.
First, please explain how I am working people into a lather. Your characterization of me is way off base, and while I do not require an apology, one is certainly due me.
Third, you really haven't tried to learn a thing about Islam have you?
Where muslims take the majority, they practice Medina Islam which is the extremely violent and uncompromising form of the religion.