Mike Pence's HIV Scandal Must Not Be Forgotten

[Katzndogz]

How did these people get HIV?

Bush wouldn't let them use condoms.

Bush Policies Hurt AIDS Prevention, Groups Say

Bush's AIDS initiative: Too little choice, too much ideology

US abstinence drive hurts AIDS fight - UN official - Redorbit

Bush forced stores to remove all condoms?

 

[oreo]

How did these people get HIV?

Bush wouldn't let them use condoms.

Bush Policies Hurt AIDS Prevention, Groups Say

Bush's AIDS initiative: Too little choice, too much ideology

US abstinence drive hurts AIDS fight - UN official - Redorbit

Bush forced stores to remove all condoms?

Link? Unlike some of the abortion activists, Bush was a moderate on abortion, and gave the 3 exceptions, and really he wouldn't have banned condoms, but nice try anyway.

But biggest nutcase of the bunch is actually Rick Santorum who the Reich wing loved in 2012. He is actually on video recording stating that States have the RIGHT to ban all birth control contraceptives and devices. He still defends that comment today.

MEANING--according to Santorum: That your next door neighbor via a ballot will decide for you if you can use them or not--LOL He's is still arguing with a 1964 U.S. Supreme court decision (Griswold v Connecticut)
Griswold v. Connecticut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[HUGGY]

Tell us about abortion.....Squaw *****!

Name one member of USMB that advocates abortion at 36 weeks.

Guno, Dean, Bodecca

That is sick.

 

[oreo]

Tell us about abortion.....Squaw *****!

Name one member of USMB that advocates abortion at 36 weeks.

Guno, Dean, Bodecca

That is sick.

Again the only late term abortions that are performed in this country are for fetal abnormalities, and fetal death (still born.) So the picture you're looking at--at 36 weeks is a normal healthy baby that is going to come into this world.

This is just a REICH wing picture of what really doesn't happen.

 

[HUGGY]

Tell us about abortion.....Squaw *****!

Name one member of USMB that advocates abortion at 36 weeks.

Guno, Dean, Bodecca

That is sick.

Again the only late term abortions that are performed in this country are for fetal abnormalities, and fetal death (still born.) So the picture you're looking at--at 36 weeks is a normal healthy baby that is going to come into this world.

This is just a REICH wing picture of what really doesn't happen.

I agree. The truth and some of these wack jobs never seem to intersect.

 

[Avatar4321]

Lets for the sake of argument agree that these so called scandals exist. Do you seriously think anyone willing to overlook Donald trumps massive flaws are going to give a rats rear end about these?

And even if they did, you realize that this scandal pales in comparison to the decades of Clinton scandals which are far worse. Heck Clinton has proven herself to to be a national security risk. And she is so corrupt she will take money from anyone. She is so corrupt that she took money from Donald trump.

How come that doesn't bother you?

You mean the "scandals" you NaziCons have conjured up and nurtured for decades? Those "scandals"...?

So the Clinton scandals are made up but we should be outraged that Mike Pence doesn't want to kill unborn children.

How do you not see the disconnect with reality there?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Oh what a hollow claim.

Many states have been slowly cutting away at it. Can't help that.

Stupid is all in the eyes of the beholder.

But that is what is great about America. You get to live in a state where you point of view is prominent. And people can live in other states where other points of view take priority.

But left wingers can't just live in their own states. People like that asshole Ted Kennedy needed to make sure his position was pushed on everyone.

Tolerant dick. I hope he suffered for a long time before going to hell.

Yes, the Reich wing states waste a lot of tax payer dollars to go after abortion issues, but it only takes one person to challenge it in court. And then those taxpayer dollars go down the toilet in a Federal District Court or end up in the U.S. Supreme court where the law is immediately overturned. This at great expense to the taxpayers of those states.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/us/supreme-court-texas-abortion.html?_r=0

The U.S. Supreme court is the law of the land, and those that try and tweek into something else do so at their own peril.

Can you be any more stupid.

Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and look at any issue where the SCOTUS rules. It is never totally settled.....

Analysis: The death of Roe v. Wade

Again--what has changed with Roe V Wade over the last 45 years. I don't want to read your conspiracy theories or read what some group of nut cases thinks that can be done about Roe V Wade. You ANSWER the question what has changed with Roe V Wade over the last 45 years.

You can't read anything.

There have been plenty of laws passed in states, incremental laws, that are slowly chipping away.

Sorry chump....this is reality.

I really don't care if you don't like it.

All it's going to take is one single challenge and you can kiss your law good-bye. The only reason they're getting away with it is because no one has challenged it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/us/supreme-court-texas-abortion.html?_r=0

It's not if it will be challenged it's when. And when that happens enjoy the taxpayer dollar expense for your state Attorney General to take it all the way up to the U.S. Supreme court, only to watch it go up in smoke.

Wrong again.

These laws are not being challenged and have not been because the pro-choice crowd fears a huge setback.

And even if they are and the pro life group loses....the same silent group that has been quietly hemming Roe in will just go back to square 1 and keep at it.

Mind you, I really don't care. But it amazes me as to how ignorant people like you are to how this process works.

There are strategies to get around the Citizens United decision that sent so many on the far left into a tailspin. Once again, while the loud baboons are screaming and throwing poop, some are slowly working to hem it in. Something I totally support (it was a terrible ruling in my estimation).

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Personhood bill is a bill that abortion activists in Colorado tried to pass. This bill gives the baby in the womb the same rights as a baby out of the womb, and this bill has soundly been defeated in my state of Colorado on 3 different occasions. Of course the bill was designed to stop all abortions, so they could charge doctors & nurses will murder for performing them.

Colorado is also considered the church capital of the United States-and we have a ton of abortion activists--so it should have passed right?

Reason why it didn't pass. Since our laws do not discriminate.

1. A common miscarriage would have to be investigated for foul play and an autopsy would have to be performed.
2. A pregnant mother due to illness or accident loses the baby she would be investigated and possibly charged with manslaughter.
3. YOU get into an accident with a pregnant woman, and the baby in the womb dies YOU could also be charged with reckless manslaughter or murder.
4. Doctors and nurses delivering still born babies would have to be investigated and could face criminal charges for negligence and manslaughter.

A baby in the womb is a very fragile life, and we don't need innocent mothers, and accidents investigated and innocent people ending up in prison over accidents or natural incidents.

What GOP candidates promised a Constitutional amendment for a personhood bill to their constituents? None other than Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, supposedly "constitutional experts" that apparently didn't look beyond the tip of their noses at the consequences of such a bill.

Thank you for making my case.

Why try to pass such a bill if the feds would immediately kill it ?

As to the amendment, I don't know who you are quoting but they are morons.

A constitutional amendment is just that. The "consequences" of such an amendment are determined by the legislative and judicial process in concert.

There is no argument against Cruz or Paul for suggesting such a bill.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

The first thing to know about Mike Pence is that he hates abortion. I mean, really hates it. As in, a good gift for him would be a lapel pin that read, "Ask me how I feel about abortion." While many right-wing politicians have been screeching about defunding Planned Parenthood over the last year due to those hoax videos, Pence wanted to shut them down before it was cool. In 2011, Politico detailed Pence's "one-man crusade to deny all federal funding" to the organization. Reminder: Title X does not provide federal funding for abortions, and abortion makes up only three percent of the services that Planned Parenthood provides. PP's main function is STI and STD testing and treatment. Pence's response: "If Planned Parenthood wants to be involved in providing counseling services and HIV testing, they ought not be in the business of providing abortions."

In 2013, the only Planned Parenthood in Indiana's rural Scott County was forced to close due to lack of funding. The women of Scott County must now travel 50 miles to visit a gynecologist, according to the Chicago Tribune. The closure also left the county without an HIV testing center, and by June 2015, 150 of Austin, Indiana's 4,300 residents were infected with HIV. That's almost 3.5 percent of the population. For comparison, the overall HIV infection rate in the United States is less that 0.4 percent.

Austin's only physician, Dr. William Cooke, saw the epidemic coming a mile away. "We’ve been asking for help for a long time," he told MSNBC in 2015. "We identified long ago there was an undercurrent here that was very unhealthy."

Pence finally called the Centers for Disease Control to assist Cooke with the outbreak in March of that year. As of April 2016, 190 cases of HIV have been diagnosed in Austin, reported the Indy Star. The Scottsburg Planned Parenthood, which never performed abortions, remains permanently closed.

Mike Pence's HIV Scandal Must Not Be Forgotten

Pence really sounds like a religious psycho! And very dangerous for women!

Well the fill-in-the-name hate campaign has started. It didn't matter who was picked for VP, the democrats already had their hate campaign literature ready to send out to the masses to post on social media. Just fill in the Veep candidate's name and make up a few unique lies about them.

"Pence HATES abortion". Does that mean Hillary LOVES abortions? LOL

How twisted can a mind be to accuse someone of hating abortions?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Lets for the sake of argument agree that these so called scandals exist. Do you seriously think anyone willing to overlook Donald trumps massive flaws are going to give a rats rear end about these?

And even if they did, you realize that this scandal pales in comparison to the decades of Clinton scandals which are far worse. Heck Clinton has proven herself to to be a national security risk. And she is so corrupt she will take money from anyone. She is so corrupt that she took money from Donald trump.

How come that doesn't bother you?

You mean the "scandals" you NaziCons have conjured up and nurtured for decades? Those "scandals"...?

So the Clinton scandals are made up but we should be outraged that Mike Pence doesn't want to kill unborn children.

How do you not see the disconnect with reality there?

His medications are to expensive ?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Wrong again.

These laws are not being challenged and have not been because the pro-choice crowd fears a huge setback.

They (the pro baby killers) believe we just fell off the turnip wagon on the way to town... Dupes I tell you...
If the Pro Baby Killers had any chance in a challenge it would have all ready been done. One of the libtards said "who will pay for the Appeal" and I told them to take it out of the monies that PP use for campaign funds for their dirty politicians,,,

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Roe v. Wade is the law of the land - backed up by the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Supreme Court. Why do you hate America?

I do not hate America. I do hate the Roe V. Wade law. Constitutional Law can be changed and I will work on that until my dying day.

Did you read any of the links I provided? Was there any PP propaganda in those news articles? PP is a Democratic fund raising machine using tax payer dollars to elect libtards all over the U. S..

The idea that PP abortion services makes up only 3% of it's services is laughable. Id like these pro-Bally killing supporters to name one PP clinic that does a mammogram.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Wrong again.

These laws are not being challenged and have not been because the pro-choice crowd fears a huge setback.

They (the pro baby killers) believe we just fell off the turnip wagon on the way to town... Dupes I tell you...
If the Pro Baby Killers had any chance in a challenge it would have all ready been done. One of the libtards said "who will pay for the Appeal" and I told them to take it out of the monies that PP use for campaign funds for their dirty politicians,,,

Don't get me wrong, I am not a rabid pro-choice guy.

But, I do love the process which the left has been screwing up for 40 years.

I probably shouldn't rat out the people are slowly killing Roe. The less of the fanatical left that knows it, the better.

 

[Ridgerunner]

They hit the bricks after I posted this link. Scattered like cockroaches when the lights come on...

Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

 

[rdean]

How did these people get HIV?

Bush wouldn't let them use condoms.

Bush Policies Hurt AIDS Prevention, Groups Say

Bush's AIDS initiative: Too little choice, too much ideology

US abstinence drive hurts AIDS fight - UN official - Redorbit

Bush forced stores to remove all condoms?

Don't be an ignorant turd. Many of Bush's initiatives were in Africa where there were no stores.

Do you people practice stupid? Or is it one of your natural talents. And here you thought you were so clever.

 

[rdean]

They hit the bricks after I posted this link. Scattered like cockroaches when the lights come on...

Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Republicans have this weird idea they care about the fetus. But they dump shit on the baby. Show us how Republicans help the born. You can't. Republicans want to get a baby born to an unfit mother and when they baby dies, prosecute her for being unfit. It's the GOP that should be prosecuted.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Don't be an ignorant turd. Many of Bush's initiatives were in Africa where there were no stores.

Do you people practice stupid? Or is it one of your natural talents. And here you thought you were so clever.

If we are going to discuss off subject material in this thread about Mike Pence, why don't we talk about Chicago and how fiscally irresponsible the libtard politicians have been. Hell they can't even pay attention they are so broke. I have seen pictures of whole family's living in cars on the interweb...

 

[oreo]

Yes, the Reich wing states waste a lot of tax payer dollars to go after abortion issues, but it only takes one person to challenge it in court. And then those taxpayer dollars go down the toilet in a Federal District Court or end up in the U.S. Supreme court where the law is immediately overturned. This at great expense to the taxpayers of those states.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/us/supreme-court-texas-abortion.html?_r=0

The U.S. Supreme court is the law of the land, and those that try and tweek into something else do so at their own peril.

Can you be any more stupid.

Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and look at any issue where the SCOTUS rules. It is never totally settled.....

Analysis: The death of Roe v. Wade

Again--what has changed with Roe V Wade over the last 45 years. I don't want to read your conspiracy theories or read what some group of nut cases thinks that can be done about Roe V Wade. You ANSWER the question what has changed with Roe V Wade over the last 45 years.

You can't read anything.

There have been plenty of laws passed in states, incremental laws, that are slowly chipping away.

Sorry chump....this is reality.

I really don't care if you don't like it.

All it's going to take is one single challenge and you can kiss your law good-bye. The only reason they're getting away with it is because no one has challenged it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/us/supreme-court-texas-abortion.html?_r=0

It's not if it will be challenged it's when. And when that happens enjoy the taxpayer dollar expense for your state Attorney General to take it all the way up to the U.S. Supreme court, only to watch it go up in smoke.

Wrong again.

These laws are not being challenged and have not been because the pro-choice crowd fears a huge setback.

And even if they are and the pro life group loses....the same silent group that has been quietly hemming Roe in will just go back to square 1 and keep at it.

Mind you, I really don't care. But it amazes me as to how ignorant people like you are to how this process works.

There are strategies to get around the Citizens United decision that sent so many on the far left into a tailspin. Once again, while the loud baboons are screaming and throwing poop, some are slowly working to hem it in. Something I totally support (it was a terrible ruling in my estimation).

They will be eventually challenged and you will lose in a Federal District court, or the U.S. Supreme court.

In Oklahoma recently a legislator got a bill passed and sent up to the female Republican Governor, and she refused to sign it into law--because she knew it would be immediately challenged in court--and overruled. And she saved the Taxpayers of that state a lot of money by refusing to sign it. She acted responsibly.

"Gov. Mary Fallin of Oklahoma vetoed a bill on Friday that would impose felony charges on doctors who perform abortions, calling the measure vague and unconstitutional.

Ms. Fallin is a conservative Republican with a strong record of supporting restrictions on abortion, which she emphasized in a statement announcing her decision a day after the Legislature had passed the bill.

The bill, which passed both houses of the Republican-dominated Legislature by wide margins, said doctors who performed abortions could be criminally charged and face prison terms of one to three years. It also said the state would revoke the medical license of any doctors who performed an abortion unless it was necessary to protect the life of the mother.

Because it would effectively ban abortion in the state, the bill would have been quickly blocked as unconstitutional, legal experts said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/21/us/oklahoma-governor-mary-fallin-vetoes-abortion-bill.html?_r=0

Now any state legislator, which apparently was the majority in Oklahoma--put their constituents at great risk for civil and legal lawsuits in their attempt to rewrite the U.S. Constitution, and these legislators do NOT belong in any official government elected position, because they are blatantly ignorant of the laws that govern and protect a woman's right to choose in this country, or the consequences of going up against the U.S. Supreme Court.

And now you have the problem with Pence--that is going to played out all over National T.V.
Pence signs new abortion restrictions into law with a prayer

 

[bodecea]

Tell us about abortion.....Squaw *****!

How many are advocating abortion on demand in the 3rd Trimester?

 

[JBond]

Why do liberals continue to lie about PP revenue? Does it make them feel better?

Non government revenue in 2013-2014 was a little over $300,000 million. They performed over 327,000 abortions that year. Do the math. Even counting all revenue sources (the tax payers) it is closer to 22%.