Mike Johnson has his "come to Orwell" moment.

[martybegan]

It doesn’t do that and I suspect you know better

That's just word games. instead of just letting them be sent back regardless, those "tough" new rules only come into play when 5000 per day AVERAGE per week come in, or 8500 in a single day.

 

[bendog]

They are serious about it to the extent they desperately want to be able to use it as a cudgel against Dems in the fall. Do they want to make the situation better? No.

I'm no fan of Biden's coddling the progs on the border, but then .... there was Trump and BrunHilda.

Still, Trump's succeeded in giving the dems and issue they certainly didn't earn. They can build their own proposal, and run on it ... while honestly saying their was a bipartisan agreement but Trump killed it.

 

[martybegan]

Trump lies all the time, about everything, all the time. When will you learn?

The bipartisan border deal would not allow 5,000 illegal crossings per day, despite what Trump says

What's become a popular talking point among conservative Republicans opposed to an emerging immigration bill is incorrect. Here's what it would do.

www.nbcnews.com

Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure.

COULD CLOSE THE BORDER.

 

[Lesh]

How about you allow the illegals you so love to enter your home and let you take care of them? Why more courts when the HR2 bill puts an end to the problem?

HR 2 does nothing for the existing backlog of asylum cases or for the ones that even HR2 does allow. And it does allow some.

 

[Lesh]

I'm no fan of Biden's coddling the progs on the border, but then .... there was Trump and BrunHilda.

Still, Trump's succeeded in giving the dems and issue they certainly didn't earn. They can build their own proposal, and run on it ... while honestly saying their was a bipartisan agreement but Trump killed it.

They don’t have to “do” that

It’s been DONE

 

[Lesh]

No they didn't. When are you going to learn to distinguish between right wing media bullshit and the truth?

When pigs fly.

 

[Lesh]

Let’s remember… the Border Partrol Union endorses the Senate Bill

Bunch of liberal sissies right

 

[IM2]

Be honest, the first immigration Bill that was killed, really didn't address the border ISSUE.
Stop illegal immigration....not just hamper it a bit.

BS.

 

[IM2]

Just the dysfunctional party of NO, saying NO, to make sure their own people don't pass anything for the good of the country over politics, another example of the guys that can't take yes for an answer. The only action that bunch is capable of is swapping out Speakers, they look totally dysfunctional at that also. I do not see them controlling either house or the presidency after November. A shame. They used to be a good party of common sense.

They've been slowly slipping away beginning with Reagan. Then Obama won the presidency and they snapped.

 

[Lesh]

Be honest, the first immigration Bill that was killed, really didn't address the border ISSUE.
Stop illegal immigration....not just hamper it a bit.

NOTHING is going to stop it cold

Nor would business allow that. They want that cheap labor pool

 

[Lesh]

That's just word games. instead of just letting them be sent back regardless, those "tough" new rules only come into play when 5000 per day AVERAGE per week come in, or 8500 in a single day.

That is not true and by now you know that. Up to 5,000 are subject to almost exactly the asylum standards you want .

At that point NO asylum claims are accepted for even consideration.

 

[berg80]

That's just word games. instead of just letting them be sent back regardless, those "tough" new rules only come into play when 5000 per day AVERAGE per week come in, or 8500 in a single day.

Liar.

So where did this 5,000-a-day figure come from?​

The bipartisan deal does include provisions that would shut down the border entirely if a certain threshold is hit, but those are border encounters, not crossings. As noted above, no migrants trying to enter the U.S. illegally would be allowed into the country unless they passed asylum interviews or were being held under government supervision.

Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure.

 

[martybegan]

That is not true and by now you know that. Up to 5,000 are subject to almost exactly the asylum standards you want .

At that point NO asylum claims are accepted for even consideration.

Wow, what a fucking deal......

And remember it all depends on an executive branch that WANTS as many illegals here, but wants to hide that.

 

[martybegan]

Liar.

it's what is in the bill. No lying here.

It "promises" less allowance of asylum, but we all know that once in the process it will be drawn out until a more pliable congress is in power.

 

[Lesh]

Wow, what a fucking deal......

And remember it all depends on an executive branch that WANTS as many illegals here, but wants to hide that.

And remember… idiots like above make up shit and pretend it’s reality

 

[g5000]

Fuck Ukraine, and fuck Tenpercentskyy.

And while I'm up, fuck your shitlib lies about how great that "border bill" was....It was a total sellout ruse, in order to get the Ukraine loot stuffed in underneath.

You never even read the bill, dipshit. You are just saying what you have been told to say.

You're in a cult.

 

[martybegan]

And remember… idiots like above make up shit and pretend it’s reality

This coming from a side that pretends "we get what we want" is compromise.

 

[Lesh]

Fuck Ukraine, and fuck Tenpercentskyy.

And while I'm up, fuck your shitlib lies about how great that "border bill" was....It was a total sellout ruse, in order to get the Ukraine loot stuffed in underneath.

Really? Odd then that the Ukraine / Israel funding bill passed and the combined bill was filibustered

 

[22lcidw]

You never even read the bill, dipshit. You are just saying what you have been told to say.

You're in a cult.

If every Prog proved their belief in the socialism and the changes you are making to the nation y living it, I would agree. You are not. And the costs are skyrocketing, and you seem to be oblivious to it. The spending and taxation are so whacked that California is going to propose a 50 dollar an hour wage at fast food joints. We get a lot of products from foreign slaves as it is. They will be flying over the fast food from China almost cooked and finished off here.

 

[IM2]

You never even read the bill, dipshit. You are just saying what you have been told to say.

You're in a cult.

Well, when you see the green frog, you know you're dealing with an idiot.