Message to criminals, Illinois is now a concealed carry state. This thug didn't know this.....

[grainbely]

Are you sure that basing policy on childhood cowboy and Indians fantasies is a good idea?

Only for criminal loving libs like you.

I don't love criminals. You and I just have different understandings of what and how bad a criminal is. And probably what is acceptable punishment for said crimes.

 

[Zander]

Are you sure that basing policy on childhood cowboy and Indians fantasies is a good idea?

Why do you hate the Constitution?

 

[Tax Man]

It would seem to me that to disable a person with a single shot is far more reasonable than to fill them with lead. Or is it these shooters just can't shoot straight?

 

[HenryBHough]

Being as how I have been shot before I can honestly say yes to the question. I also know kids who hold guns generally have no intention to use them, they just hold them because it is a method of intimidation. Also I would make an effort to get the kid to lay down his weapon.

I hate it when they lay down ON their weapon. Then I have to kick 'em over to make sure the police can see they were armed before any questions are asked. That can be hell on a good pair of Florsheims.

 

[Tax Man]

Being as how I have been shot before I can honestly say yes to the question. I also know kids who hold guns generally have no intention to use them, they just hold them because it is a method of intimidation. Also I would make an effort to get the kid to lay down his weapon.

I hate it when they lay down ON their weapon. Then I have to kick 'em over to make sure the police can see they were armed before any questions are asked. That can be hell on a good pair of Florsheims.

What's a floorsheims

 

[MrShangles]

I guess this shows how dangerous people with no respect for humans can be. This kid most likely did not even have his gun loaded.

Would you be willing to bet your life on the kid's gun not being loaded?? ....

Being as how I have been shot before I can honestly say yes to the question. I also know kids who hold guns generally have no intention to use them, they just hold them because it is a method of intimidation. Also I would make an effort to get the kid to lay down his weapon.

You been smoking unicorn farts again?


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[Tax Man]

I guess this shows how dangerous people with no respect for humans can be. This kid most likely did not even have his gun loaded.

Would you be willing to bet your life on the kid's gun not being loaded?? ....

Being as how I have been shot before I can honestly say yes to the question. I also know kids who hold guns generally have no intention to use them, they just hold them because it is a method of intimidation. Also I would make an effort to get the kid to lay down his weapon.

You been smoking unicorn farts again?


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Sorry but i do not smoke anything but BBQ ribs.

 

[2aguy]

It would seem to me that to disable a person with a single shot is far more reasonable than to fill them with lead. Or is it these shooters just can't shoot straight?

That isn't reasonable.......study fighting with a gun....you would see that what you believe isn't reasonable...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Being as how I have been shot before I can honestly say yes to the question. I also know kids who hold guns generally have no intention to use them, they just hold them because it is a method of intimidation. Also I would make an effort to get the kid to lay down his weapon.

I hate it when they lay down ON their weapon. Then I have to kick 'em over to make sure the police can see they were armed before any questions are asked. That can be hell on a good pair of Florsheims.

What's a floorsheims

A brand of shoes!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It would seem to me that to disable a person with a single shot is far more reasonable than to fill them with lead. Or is it these shooters just can't shoot straight?

The best shot to disable is right between the eyes. They usually don't fight back much after that one.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The Alabama Senate has passed a law eliminating the need of a permit for concealed carry. When the "apocalypse" doesn't start in Bama, Lefties will be disappointed.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It would seem to me that to disable a person with a single shot is far more reasonable than to fill them with lead. Or is it these shooters just can't shoot straight?

The best shot to disable is right between the eyes. They usually don't fight back much after that one.

That's not the easiest shot to make quickly. Center mass is the best option.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It would seem to me that to disable a person with a single shot is far more reasonable than to fill them with lead. Or is it these shooters just can't shoot straight?

A single shot with a 9mm may not disable the criminal. If you're in a situation like this with the other guy armed better to put multiple shots center mass than the alternative of being shot dead yourself.

 

[LoneLaugher]

A concealed carry permit holder ended the criminal career of a violent teenage thug. We will never know how many lives were saved by the actions of this concealed carry permit holder, but keep in mind...this teenage criminal was willing to point a gun at another human being in order to take their money....does anyone think that this teenage thug would not one day have murdered someone?

Chicago teen fatally shot by CCP-holder during attempted robbery

A 16-year-old boy is dead after he allegedly tried to rob a man outside of a bank in the Oak Park area of Chicago Saturday morning.

Police say it appears the teen, who was armed with a gun, approached the 24-year-old victim just after 11 a.m. intending to commit a robbery. However, the would-be victim was also armed and an exchange of gunfire occurred.

The teen, who was identified as Damon Phillips, was shot multiple times in the chest and fled the scene in a waiting car. He later showed up at an area hospital where he was pronounced dead about half an hour after the attempted robbery. It wasn’t immediately known how Phillips got to the hospital or whether there was a second suspect involved.

The victim, who authorities confirmed has a valid permit to carry a concealed weapon, was not injured.

No charges have been filed at this time, although the incident remains under investigation.

Bystander wounded during shootout between robber, shop owner

Good....you found one story.....considering Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop criminal attack (according to bill clinton and barak obama), and there were only 489 accidental gun deaths in 2015.....with over 15 million people actually carrying guns for self defense.....I'd say Americans are really responsible when it comes to carrying guns...

Wouldn't you?

You fucking idiot. You are still shopping that 1,500,000 times per year bullshit. You have no shame.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

I guess this shows how dangerous people with no respect for humans can be. This kid most likely did not even have his gun loaded.

WEAK!!

 

[airplanemechanic]

You fucking idiot. You are still shopping that 1,500,000 times per year bullshit. You have no shame.

I don't believe I'd call him a "fucking idiot". It's really a difficult stat to gather information on because someone may use a gun to deter a crime and nothing ever be reported. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The media only grabs on to ones that fit a certain profile. But to say that self defense use of guns happens very rarely is a bit ridiculous. If people don't report every instance, then the stats are skewed.

I can't find any hard core stats on how many times guns are used defensively, but it doesn't mean carrying them is bad. If a gun is used ONE time to defend innocent life, it's well worth it.

 

[2aguy]

A concealed carry permit holder ended the criminal career of a violent teenage thug. We will never know how many lives were saved by the actions of this concealed carry permit holder, but keep in mind...this teenage criminal was willing to point a gun at another human being in order to take their money....does anyone think that this teenage thug would not one day have murdered someone?

Chicago teen fatally shot by CCP-holder during attempted robbery

A 16-year-old boy is dead after he allegedly tried to rob a man outside of a bank in the Oak Park area of Chicago Saturday morning.

Police say it appears the teen, who was armed with a gun, approached the 24-year-old victim just after 11 a.m. intending to commit a robbery. However, the would-be victim was also armed and an exchange of gunfire occurred.

The teen, who was identified as Damon Phillips, was shot multiple times in the chest and fled the scene in a waiting car. He later showed up at an area hospital where he was pronounced dead about half an hour after the attempted robbery. It wasn’t immediately known how Phillips got to the hospital or whether there was a second suspect involved.

The victim, who authorities confirmed has a valid permit to carry a concealed weapon, was not injured.

No charges have been filed at this time, although the incident remains under investigation.

Bystander wounded during shootout between robber, shop owner

Good....you found one story.....considering Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop criminal attack (according to bill clinton and barak obama), and there were only 489 accidental gun deaths in 2015.....with over 15 million people actually carrying guns for self defense.....I'd say Americans are really responsible when it comes to carrying guns...

Wouldn't you?

You fucking idiot. You are still shopping that 1,500,000 times per year bullshit. You have no shame.

I'm not the one shopping that number....bill clinton and barak obama shopped that number.......and you find that number in 2 studies out of a least about a dozen studies......on actual gun self defense


Self defense with a gun......40 years of actual research...first is the name of the group that conducted the research, then the year, then the number of defensive gun uses and finally wether the research contained police or military defensive gun uses....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

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If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[LoneLaugher]

You fucking idiot. You are still shopping that 1,500,000 times per year bullshit. You have no shame.

I don't believe I'd call him a "fucking idiot". It's really a difficult stat to gather information on because someone may use a gun to deter a crime and nothing ever be reported. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The media only grabs on to ones that fit a certain profile. But to say that self defense use of guns happens very rarely is a bit ridiculous. If people don't report every instance, then the stats are skewed.

I can't find any hard core stats on how many times guns are used defensively, but it doesn't mean carrying them is bad. If a gun is used ONE time to defend innocent life, it's well worth it.

Do the math.

 

[2aguy]

You fucking idiot. You are still shopping that 1,500,000 times per year bullshit. You have no shame.

I don't believe I'd call him a "fucking idiot". It's really a difficult stat to gather information on because someone may use a gun to deter a crime and nothing ever be reported. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The media only grabs on to ones that fit a certain profile. But to say that self defense use of guns happens very rarely is a bit ridiculous. If people don't report every instance, then the stats are skewed.

I can't find any hard core stats on how many times guns are used defensively, but it doesn't mean carrying them is bad. If a gun is used ONE time to defend innocent life, it's well worth it.

Do the math.

Bill clinton and barak obama, as well as quite a few others, already did......

 

[Skull Pilot]

A concealed carry permit holder ended the criminal career of a violent teenage thug. We will never know how many lives were saved by the actions of this concealed carry permit holder, but keep in mind...this teenage criminal was willing to point a gun at another human being in order to take their money....does anyone think that this teenage thug would not one day have murdered someone?

Chicago teen fatally shot by CCP-holder during attempted robbery

A 16-year-old boy is dead after he allegedly tried to rob a man outside of a bank in the Oak Park area of Chicago Saturday morning.

Police say it appears the teen, who was armed with a gun, approached the 24-year-old victim just after 11 a.m. intending to commit a robbery. However, the would-be victim was also armed and an exchange of gunfire occurred.

The teen, who was identified as Damon Phillips, was shot multiple times in the chest and fled the scene in a waiting car. He later showed up at an area hospital where he was pronounced dead about half an hour after the attempted robbery. It wasn’t immediately known how Phillips got to the hospital or whether there was a second suspect involved.

The victim, who authorities confirmed has a valid permit to carry a concealed weapon, was not injured.

No charges have been filed at this time, although the incident remains under investigation.

Bystander wounded during shootout between robber, shop owner

yeah it would have been better if the piece of shit criminal killed the shop owner as long as no one else got hurt