Merged -- Kavanaugh/Ford Opinion and Comment Threads for 30 Sept.

[Foxfyre]

I agree. A lot of on-the-fence Democrats are going to wake up to what their party is and is doing.

I agreed with you but wish there was a 'hopefully' button that would express more of my agreement with you. I too know a couple of non-Trump voters who are horrified at the pure evil that the Democrats are doing to both Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh for nothing more than political expediency, and how that will affect their vote come November is anybody's guess.

 

[Deno]

This should be a two-way street. I don't expect any investigation will prove anything either way, but if it can be proved she was outright lying, she should go to prison. It would make the next dingbat think and may have precluded this sham.

She lied and she should pay the price.

How are you going to prove she lied? She and other witnesses have said they don't remember some things. The only one that's said they remember everything, despite heavy drinking, is Kavanaugh. Yeah right, HE lied.

Well lets start with the fact ford said she was unaware

of the fact the committee would come to her?

This will now be investigated by the FBI…..

Did the feinstein libtards lie to her? Does ford not have a tv or a radio?

It’s clear there is a lie here………..

She said she couldn’t fly, then we find out ford is flying all over the FLUCKING WORLD…

Another lie………..

And then there’s the lying libtard Mr. Dick blumenthal…….

He quoted a Latin phrase about if you lie once you will lie again…

I tried looking up the exact phrase on the net but low and behold

I couldn’t find it anywhere…..

Go figure…………

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

She offered ZERO evidence. Is appearing meek all it takes?

Did Dr. Ford offer ZERO evidence as you claim?

How about her 2012 counseling records? Was she clairvoyant to the point of scheming six years before the fact to set up a record for presentation last week at the hearings? Or how about her lie detector test presented as evidence at the hearing that both side got rather animated over in their discussions? That wasn't corroborative evidence?

And how about the simple fact of her testimony? If that isn't evidentiary in nature, then what the Hell is?

 

[miketx]

She offered ZERO evidence. Is appearing meek all it takes?

Did Dr. Ford offer ZERO evidence as you claim?

How about her 2012 counseling records? Was she clairvoyant to the point of scheming six years before the fact to set up a record for presentation last week at the hearings? Or how about her lie detector test presented as evidence at the hearing that both side got rather animated over in their discussions? That wasn't corroborative evidence?

And how about the simple fact of her testimony? If that isn't evidentiary in nature, then what the Hell is?

How does going to counseling prove the judge raped her?

 

[Flash]

This is really worth watching.

It says the same things I have been saying. Ford is a fraud and a liar. A patsy for the Democrats.

 

[Foxfyre]

My wide's reaction was "Jesus Christ you got drunk at a high school party and some guy tried to grope you, get over it already"

Which was pretty much my initial reaction having had that happen to me though perhaps not as dramatically as the incident Dr. Ford described. But given that there was no rape, not even evidence of attempted rape, no physical harm was done, and the boys did leave once she got into the bathroom without threatening her or demanding her silence and nothing further came of it suggests it was a couple of drunk guys who behaved very badly. But a lot of boys, especially in packs, behaved badly in high school and I was a target on occasion though not quite as extreme as what Dr. Ford described. I have been in a circumstance, with an adult, in which I was somewhat afraid, embarrassed, and very uncomfortable though he did take no for an answer and took me home when I asked him to.

These are not pleasant experiences and you do remember them though not everything aspect in clear detail after time has passed. It becomes more like the bits and pieces of lucid dreams that you can recall but not everything. So I can forgive her for not remembering such things as how she got home after 36+ years or exactly who was at the party.

But her recent statements about 'fear of flying' which it is obvious she does frequently for business, personal reasons, and pleasure, or saying she didn't know the Senate committee was willing to come to her in California, suggest a woman willing to lie for expediency. And I just can't quite believe that the incident Dr. Ford described was so traumatic as to affect her entire adult life, affect relationships, require as much therapy as she describes as getting. I figure she has more problems than some drunk guy groping her at a party

And I don't believe Judge Kavanaugh was that drunk guy. Even if he was, it should never have been used to try to skewer his confirmation to the Supreme Court after 36 years of living an exemplary life as an adult.

 

[skews13]

Just about any intelligent person can spin a tale. You can easily take as factual scenario and twist it to suit a narrative or just fabricate one of your own.
Having corroborating evidence is needed to consider something credible is it not?

Right. This woman was just sitting at home one day, and said, you know, I don't really have anything to do this week, so I'm going to put myself and my family in danger, by engaging in false accusations to a court nominee 3000 miles from where I live.

It takes a special kind of deluded mind to even consider that a possibility.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

She offered ZERO evidence. Is appearing meek all it takes?

Did Dr. Ford offer ZERO evidence as you claim?

How about her 2012 counseling records? Was she clairvoyant to the point of scheming six years before the fact to set up a record for presentation last week at the hearings? Or how about her lie detector test presented as evidence at the hearing that both side got rather animated over in their discussions? That wasn't corroborative evidence?

And how about the simple fact of her testimony? If that isn't evidentiary in nature, then what the Hell is?

Telling a story to someone prior is not evidence lol. It is just her telling the story. Doesn't make it true.

Try again

 

[TheDude]

She's a woman
He's a white male

She's a progressive
He's a conservative

She's me too
He's accused of me too

Progressives are fucked in the head
Conservatives scratch their heads


Therefore she's credible.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It takes a special kind of deluded mind to even consider that a possibility.

The term you were looking for is OPEN MIND. I'm afraid deluded mind is wrong.

One must consider all possibilities when there is NO FUCKING CORROBORATING EVIDENCE

 

[TheDude]

She's credible because she "presented herself in a calm manner" and he "presented himself as angry and upset".

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

She offered ZERO evidence. Is appearing meek all it takes?

Did Dr. Ford offer ZERO evidence as you claim?

How about her 2012 counseling records? Was she clairvoyant to the point of scheming six years before the fact to set up a record for presentation last week at the hearings? Or how about her lie detector test presented as evidence at the hearing that both side got rather animated over in their discussions? That wasn't corroborative evidence?

And how about the simple fact of her testimony? If that isn't evidentiary in nature, then what the Hell is?

How does going to counseling prove the judge raped her?

How does going to counseling prove the judge raped her?

The OP was not about proving an attempted rape occurred you fucking knuckle dragging troll! Rather, it was an examination of Kavanaugh's character and fitness to sit on the High Court. The OP claimed Ford presented no evidence when she had. Stay on topic asswipe!

 

[toobfreak]

SECOND QUESTION

Of about THIRTY questions begging answered by Ford that contradict or make no sense on top of ZERO evidence to make her case against a guy that 10,000 facts about him accrued during a lifetime of impeccable service all totally fly in the face of everything ever known about the guy despite relentless government checks on his integrity!

SO EITHER Brett's sexcapade is the biggest most well kept secret since the Philadelphia experiment or Chrissy-Margaret-Blasey-Ford is a total lying POS actor.

Could it be just a coincidence that she just happens to be an expert on how the brain processes perception? Hmm.

 

[TheDude]

Progressives are no longer in touch with rational thought and behavior. The result is critical application is no longer important. What's now important is their emotions are pacified. Therefore, Ford must be credible, strictly because they desire she be credible.

Am I wrong?

 

[TheDude]

What made it credible, Kav not wanting or asking for an FBI investigation to "clear his "good name".

You serious? He's been investigated six times, and here comes another. What will it mean to you when he clears another hurdle? Answer: He's guilty because it helps you sleep nights.

 

[miketx]

She offered ZERO evidence. Is appearing meek all it takes?

Did Dr. Ford offer ZERO evidence as you claim?

How about her 2012 counseling records? Was she clairvoyant to the point of scheming six years before the fact to set up a record for presentation last week at the hearings? Or how about her lie detector test presented as evidence at the hearing that both side got rather animated over in their discussions? That wasn't corroborative evidence?

And how about the simple fact of her testimony? If that isn't evidentiary in nature, then what the Hell is?

How does going to counseling prove the judge raped her?

How does going to counseling prove the judge raped her?

The OP was not about proving an attempted rape occurred you fucking knuckle dragging troll! Rather, it was an examination of Kavanaugh's character and fitness to sit on the High Court. The OP claimed Ford presented no evidence when she had. Stay on topic asswipe!

So how does going to counseling prove anything?

 

[toobfreak]

She's credible because she "presented herself in a calm manner" and he "presented himself as angry and upset".

So anyone with say emotional or anger management issues is guilty of anything they are accused of now by virtue of how they APPEAR to you?

HOW ABOUT THIS:

Despite Chrissy saying how fearful and terrified and traumatized she was, despite her mousey voice which anyone could fake, she showed no other outward signs, not even a watery eye or tear, throughout her testimony, while Brett was visibly shaken, fighting back tears, and several times to the point so swept with emotion he found himself unable to speak for a few moments, choked up, that was clearly genuine emotion.

If I was being railroaded by a committee while I watched my wife and children being threatened, my life's work, career and reputation destroyed and DIDN'T feel some anger and upset, I'd think there was something WRONG WITH THAT PERSON. Not hold it against them.

So in other words, all the Left needs to do now is eviscerate the life of any person they don't like and when that person raises the slightest voice of resistance or outrage over the treatment and unfairness, that is your grounds to deem them "not credible?"

IN OTHER WORDS, treat men with all the unfairness and hate that you complain about and try to protect women from! And don't they DARE do anything but TAKE IT.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

She offered ZERO evidence. Is appearing meek all it takes?

Did Dr. Ford offer ZERO evidence as you claim?

How about her 2012 counseling records? Was she clairvoyant to the point of scheming six years before the fact to set up a record for presentation last week at the hearings? Or how about her lie detector test presented as evidence at the hearing that both side got rather animated over in their discussions? That wasn't corroborative evidence?

And how about the simple fact of her testimony? If that isn't evidentiary in nature, then what the Hell is?

Telling a story to someone prior is not evidence lol. It is just her telling the story. Doesn't make it true.

Try again

Telling a story to someone prior is not evidence lol. It is just her telling the story. Doesn't make it true.

Try again

Come on Gramps, that too bloody easy! This is from the American Bar Association (ABA) Glossary of Legal Terms defining basic legal EVIDENCE;

"Evidence - Information presented in testimony or in documents that is used by the fact finder (judge or jury) to decide the case for one side or the other."
~~ Glossary ~~ [Emphasis Added]

Are you now trying too claim the ABA doesn't know what evidence is?

 

[TheDude]

She's credible because she "presented herself in a calm manner" and he "presented himself as angry and upset".

So anyone with say emotional or anger management issues is guilty of anything they are accused of now by virtue of how they APPEAR to you, dumbass?

HOW ABOUT THIS:

Despite Chrissy saying how fearful and terrified and traumatized she was, despite her mousey voice which anyone could fake, she showed no other outward signs, not even a watery eye or tear, throughout her testimony, while Brett was visibly shaken, fighting back tears, and several times to the point so swept with emotion he found himself unable to speak for a few moments, choked up, that was clearly genuine emotion.

If I was being railroaded by a committee while I watched my wife and children being threatened, my life's work, career and reputation destroyed and DIDN'T feel some anger and upset, I'd think there was something WRONG WITH THAT PERSON. Not hold it against them.

So in other words, dipshit, all the Left needs to do now is eviscerate the life of any person they don't like and when that person raises the slightest voice of resistance or outrage over the treatment and unfairness, that is your grounds to deem them "not credible?"

IN OTHER WORDS, treat men with all the unfairness and hate that you complain about and try to protect women from! And don't they DARE do anything but TAKE IT.

I was trying to think like a progressive puppet.

 

[konradv]

This should be a two-way street. I don't expect any investigation will prove anything either way, but if it can be proved she was outright lying, she should go to prison. It would make the next dingbat think and may have precluded this sham.

She lied and she should pay the price.

How are you going to prove she lied? She and other witnesses have said they don't remember some things. The only one that's said they remember everything, despite heavy drinking, is Kavanaugh. Yeah right, HE lied.

Well lets start with the fact ford said she was unaware

of the fact the committee would come to her?

This will now be investigated by the FBI…..

Did the feinstein libtards lie to her? Does ford not have a tv or a radio?

It’s clear there is a lie here………..

She said she couldn’t fly, then we find out ford is flying all over the FLUCKING WORLD…

Another lie………..

And then there’s the lying libtard Mr. Dick blumenthal…….

He quoted a Latin phrase about if you lie once you will lie again…

I tried looking up the exact phrase on the net but low and behold

I couldn’t find it anywhere…..

Go figure…………

Not addressing the lies he told? Why is that? Thought I'd forget? Clean up your language and get back to us when you've calmed down and can think straight.