Men who run into burning buildings, walk into warzones, and keep the worst of society locked away typically don't vote left. Does this matter?

[shockedcanadian]

I don't give a damn how a person votes. If he is gay, masculine, feminine, black, white, purple, blind, 4 feet tall, 400 pounds, Canadian, American or Japanese, if they have the courage to face the fire when the shyte hits the fan, they have my respect and their dignity.

 

[MarathonMike]

I agree with your general sentiment, although looking at several of JFK's policies tells a different story. For example, he legalized public sector unions. Even FDR thought that was a bridge too far. Ever since that happened, our federal bureaucracy has been nigh impossible to shrink.

That's fair, but our government has exploded in size for a number of reasons, not just the unions.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Right vs Left
Capitalists vs Socialist
Adult vs Child
Makers vs Takers
Winners vs losers

Sprinkles are for winners

 

[IM2]

I think you answered your own question. Masculinity is a right leaning thing, at least in the Western context.

The left focuses on things like feminism, for example.

James Brown once said it's a man's world, and it definitely is, when looking beyond the feminist nonsense of the West. Also, in that song, he did express the importance of women, but in practical terms, this importance is based on biological imperatives and raising children.

No, it isn't. And there are just as many men who do those things wh vote left.

Men on the right are a bunch of crybabies.

 

[Monoculturalist]

No, it isn't. And there are just as many men who do those things wh vote left.

Men on the right are a bunch of crybabies.

While there are certainly men on the left that can be honorable or masculine, masculinity is generally rooted in tradition, not the active pursuit of defying it.

This is best demonstrated by how a lot of the non-West is much more patriarchal and traditional. Feminism is generally a detriment to masculinity, particularly with the second wave and beyond.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?

Some leftists wine about how hellish their life is living through Republican administrations, other people like my Dad, who are veterans and EMTs, lived hell every day. There's a reason for that: Because life is nowhere close to being that bad, and they'll fight like beasts to keep it that way.

 

[MarathonMike]

No, it isn't. And there are just as many men who do those things wh vote left.

Men on the right are a bunch of crybabies.

Sez IM2 the biggest crybaby on USMB. LOL Wah!!! Jim Crow laws are keeping me down! 400 years of SLAVERY!!! Where my money??? Wahh!!

 

[NotYankee]

There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?

When deciding on war, the only people that should be allowed to vote on it Yes or No, should be limited to only those who are risking their lives on such a war. The profiteers who supply the mar material should not be allowed vote on it.

 

[NotYankee]

Only those who risk their lives conducting a proposed war should be able to vote yes or no on it. The profiteers of wars should not be able to vote on it.

 

[NotYankee]

Mr. President Trump stated His central goal at a Jerry Falwell university in Lynchburg, Appomattox County, Virginia by saying by giving the Israelis everything they want, then, God will Bless America. USA is deeply in debt, and Mr. Trump insists on spending billions of $'s supporting wars of aggression.

 

[BrokeLoser]

There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?

Men who like vagina vote Republican
Men who don’t claim to be women vote Republican
Men who aren’t baristas vote Republican
Men who work real MAN jobs vote Republican
Men who don’t have colorful hair vote Republican
Men not on depression and or anxiety meds vote Rebublican
Yep…alpha males vote Republican

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yes, righties are more likely to fulfill the roles of cultural 1950 America masculine figures, lefties the modern male roles of today.

Guess which will die out first.

Why did you people argue about silly matters.

 

[Anomalism]

Yes, righties are more likely to fulfill the roles of cultural 1950 America masculine figures, lefties the modern male roles of today.

Guess which will die out first.

Why did you people argue about silly matters.

Are these roles not honorable when done with integrity?

Soldiers
Firefighters
Cops
Dangerous but necessarily jobs in general

You're probably right that traditional masculinity will die out. That's probably why these jobs are getting harder and harder to fill. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[Correll]

Are you actually going to argue that most law enforcement, military, first responders and tradesmen don't lean conservative? Do you live in reality?

1. I have a buddy who is a cop adn has discussed that there are cops who lean left. He doesn't understand why, but they do exist.

2. Plenty of cops that seem happy to obey the rules of the hard core left from seattle to the uk.

I think we DO need some hard numbers before we assume the premise.

 

[Anomalism]

1. I have a buddy who is a cop adn has discussed that there are cops who lean left. He doesn't understand why, but they do exist.

2. Plenty of cops that seem happy to obey the rules of the hard core left from seattle to the uk.

I think we DO need some hard numbers before we assume the premise.

Military / Veterans

Gallup Poll

Military Veterans Tend to Be More Republican. Veterans of all ages are far more likely to identify as Republican compared to non-veterans

Military Veterans of All Ages Tend to Be More Republican

Pew Research

63% of veteran voters identify with or lean Republican, just 35% Democrat

Military veterans remain a Republican group, backing Trump over Harris by wide margin
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Police & Law Enforcement

Survey - 64% of officers said the Republican Party best reflects their political interests, only 5% said Democrats

How satisfied are cops with their careers?

PMC study & Pew data

Republicans report higher confidence in police, more favorable ratings of law enforcement ethics and honesty

Attitudes Toward the Police in the United States
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Zippia/Verdant Labs analyzed FEC contribution data and found that jobs like oil, gas, agriculture, trucking, and manual labor skew more Republican while social sectors like education or entertainment skew Democrat.

The New Yorker and Pew confirm that in pivotal swing regions, most blue collar union voters have shifted toward the GOP.

Why so many blue-collar workers drifted from Democrats

Industries rooted in discipline and risk (veterans, trades, law enforcement) skew toward conservative values and identity.

 

[22lcidw]

Please feel free to prove your premise before stating it as a fact.

Due to being woke there is pressure more on those who do it.

 

[Meathead]

There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?

Well, there are very few soy boys among them. so there's that.

 

[Anomalism]

1. I have a buddy who is a cop adn has discussed that there are cops who lean left. He doesn't understand why, but they do exist.

2. Plenty of cops that seem happy to obey the rules of the hard core left from seattle to the uk.

I think we DO need some hard numbers before we assume the premise.

I provided a number of links above. What it basically boils down to is dangerous jobs that require sacrifice tend to be occupied by more conservative men.

That doesn't mean there are no left-leaning men that do these jobs. That was not what I was suggesting.

 

[Correll]

I provided a number of links above. What it basically boils down to is dangerous jobs that require sacrifice tend to be occupied by more conservative men.

That doesn't mean there are no left-leaning men that do these jobs. That was not what I was suggesting.

Cool.

So, what can be taken from this...?

 

[Anomalism]

Cool.

So, what can be taken from this...?

Conservative men tend to lean more toward a protective warrior archetype. People that are willing to fight, sacrifice and die. Does that make them better or naturally superior? I wouldn't go that far. It's honorable though. There are bad apples, but I think these are respectable people whose willingness to sacrifice should be honored.