Men who run into burning buildings, walk into warzones, and keep the worst of society locked away typically don't vote left. Does this matter?

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There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?
 
It really does not matter how they vote.

They stand up, man a post, and put themselves between civilization and the enemy.

I, for one, am eternally grateful for their courage and devotion.
You respect all warriors regardless of how they vote. I agree. That's not the question though. Most warriors in general lean right. Does that mean anything? Why is that the case?
 
I think you answered your own question. Masculinity is a right leaning thing, at least in the Western context.

The left focuses on things like feminism, for example.

James Brown once said it's a man's world, and it definitely is, when looking beyond the feminist nonsense of the West. Also, in that song, he did express the importance of women, but in practical terms, this importance is based on biological imperatives and raising children.
 
I think you answered your own question. Masculinity is a right leaning thing, at least in the Western context.

The left focuses on things like feminism, for example.

James Brown once said it's a man's world, and it definitely is, when looking beyond the feminist nonsense of the West. Also, in that song, he did express the importance of women, but in practical terms, this importance is based on biological imperatives and raising children.
Are left wing men in general just more cowardly and effeminate? What does that say about world outlooks? About philosophy?
 
There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?
Please feel free to prove your premise before stating it as a fact.
 
Are left wing men in general just more cowardly and effeminate? What does that say about world outlooks? About philosophy?
They're not necessarily cowardly, but they do have strange priorities that only persist because of ideologies that go against masculine norms. A lot of progressive thought is heavily influenced by Marxism. We even see this in Christian thought due to certain writers like Tolstoy.

It's typically the result of either a misplaced sense of compassion or wealth envy.
 
Please feel free to prove your premise before stating it as a fact.
Are you actually going to argue that most law enforcement, military, first responders and tradesmen don't lean conservative? Do you live in reality?
 
I respect the services but not all who served, having served myself.

Historical Trends:
  • Military Times Polls (2016–2020) showed that officers tended to be less supportive of Trump than enlisted personnel.
  • Senior NCOs often fell somewhere in between, with mixed views depending on branch and role.
  • Enlisted troops, especially junior ranks, showed higher favorability toward Trump in earlier polls.
📰 Recent Developments:
  • Trump’s firings of top military leaders in 2025—including Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. and the heads of the Navy and Coast Guard—have sparked concern across all ranks about the politicization of the military.
  • The Pentagon has warned that such purges could impact morale, readiness, and operational effectiveness.
While these actions may influence current sentiment, no updated rank-specific polling has been released to quantify the shift.

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I respect the services but not all who served, having served myself.

Historical Trends:
  • Military Times Polls (2016–2020) showed that officers tended to be less supportive of Trump than enlisted personnel.
  • Senior NCOs often fell somewhere in between, with mixed views depending on branch and role.
  • Enlisted troops, especially junior ranks, showed higher favorability toward Trump in earlier polls.
📰 Recent Developments:
  • Trump’s firings of top military leaders in 2025—including Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. and the heads of the Navy and Coast Guard—have sparked concern across all ranks about the politicization of the military.
  • The Pentagon has warned that such purges could impact morale, readiness, and operational effectiveness.
While these actions may influence current sentiment, no updated rank-specific polling has been released to quantify the shift.

www.militarytimes.com
buckscountybeacon.com
dcreport.com
Trump doesn't define all things conservative. He's not the litmus test of conservatism. There are left wingers that do all of those jobs. I'm speaking in general, though.
 
There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but I am speaking in general right now.

Right wing men disproportionately fill the roles, cultures, and mindsets that involve physical risk, sacrifice, duty-based identity, warrior ethos, and a willingness to die for what they believe in. Those aren’t just job categories; they’re dispositions, and culturally, the right is more aligned with that stoic, confrontational, protector archetype. That’s just reality. Most men willing to fight and die for what they believe in are on the political right. Most of the military, law enforcement, first responders, and tradesmen, jobs that demand discipline, sacrifice, and risk, are overwhelmingly right leaning. The right still embraces traditional masculine virtues such as courage, duty, honor, protection, and the stoic acceptance of pain or death if necessary.

Is there anything to be gleaned from this reality?
Excellent points. IMO what can be gleaned is that "THE RIGHT" is generally associated with self reliance, strength, determination and pride in being an American. It's interesting that it was JFK who captured that spirit in the phrase "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". What happened to THOSE DEMOCRATS??
 
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Trump doesn't define all things conservative. He's not the litmus test of conservatism. There are left wingers that do all of those jobs. I'm speaking in general, though.

As I am. I have heard of senior officers who retired as soon as they could after Iran Contra.

Senior NCOs are very conservative, but many retired ones I know have no use for Trump.

But I am one person, giving my own observations, not talking on behalf of everyone.
 
Excellent points. IMO what can be gleaned is that "THE RIGHT" is generally associated with self reliance, strength, determination and pride in being an American. It's interesting that it was JFK who captured that spirit in the phrase "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". What happened to THOSE DEMOCRATS??

They killed JFK

They became extint.
 
Excellent points. IMO what can be gleaned is that "THE RIGHT" is generally associated with self reliance, strength, determination and pride in being an American. It's interesting that it was JFK who captured that spirit in the phrase "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". What happened to THOSE DEMOCRATS??
I agree with your general sentiment, although looking at several of JFK's policies tells a different story. For example, he legalized public sector unions. Even FDR thought that was a bridge too far. Ever since that happened, our federal bureaucracy has been nigh impossible to shrink.
 
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