Men in women's bathrooms

[Dhara]

That's the response of someone who knows who's worth talking to and who isn't.

How about not. Cecilie flat out destroyed you.

Go to the Flame Zone. Do not pass go, do not pass out. Take your hostile posts and shove them up Cecile's nose.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Go to the Flame Zone. Do not pass go, do not pass out. Take your hostile posts and shove them up Cecile's nose.

So stating the truth is now a hostile act? Should I find you the nearest safe space, Dhara?

 

[shintao]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

So basically, you're telling us that sex is determined not by biology and DNA, but by a piece of paper?

Let me clarify, leftist dimwit self-hater: The sex one is at birth, which in this case happens to have been the "birth certificate designation" to which we were actually referring, is one's gender. Whatever wishful thinking you may have bullied the craven politicians into rubber-stamping for you since then has no more weight of reality than your belief that you're an intelligent, decent human being worthy of respect.

In the future, I will advise you strongly to leave references to specific family members out of discussions, since I really doubt you have the moral fortitude and strength of character to not run sniveling to the mods the first time someone comments on them, despite the fact that YOU brought them into it.

Yes, so you are saying you want chicks with dicks in the men's restroom where you can google their cleavage while at the urinal, and they can get off checking out all the cocks. lol

What is interesting here is that before all this ruckus, no one knew that the women entering women's restrooms had dicks. lol

And before the gender issue on the BC, no one knew the baby IDed as male would develop breasts at 16 and start showing her womanhood.

 

[TemplarKormac]

and it should be up to the establishment what kinds of restrooms to provide.

Well no kidding. Nobody is arguing about Target (unlike libtards - we don't believe we can force private industry on private property to do anything - we just choose to no longer shop there). The issue is public facilities. The public pool. Schools. Highway stops. Etc.

Really? There are no white only drinking fountains or restrooms in any private business because any business that opens it's door to the public is subject to civil rights legislation.

Really? You really want to tell us that someone has a "civil right" to force women to disrobe around him simply because he puts on a dress and makeup? Or doesn't even bother with that much, and just SAYS he "feels like a woman"?

Blacks fought to get equal rights in the long aftermath of slavery. The LGBT community and their lickspittles on the left are fighting to turn women into state-owned strippers.

"Get naked, and shut up, *****!" ain't exactly "We Shall Overcome", y'know what I'm saying?

I think your fantasies are in control.

No. Your twisted interpretation of human biology is.

 

[TemplarKormac]

What is interesting here is that before all this ruckus, no one knew that the women entering women's restrooms had dicks. lol

Well, leave it to the liberal left to make an issue of it. Now everyone knows about it. Gee thanks.

 

[Dhara]

Go to the Flame Zone. Do not pass go, do not pass out. Take your hostile posts and shove them up Cecile's nose.

So stating the truth is now a hostile act? Should I find you the nearest safe space, Dhara?

Truth? You're the one who needs a safe space, like a prison cell for the criminally insane.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Truth? You're the one who needs a safe space, like a prison cell for the criminally insane.

Ooooh, let the real you show. You're accusing Cecilie of hatred and ugliness, yet here you are referring to me as "criminally insane." Not only that, you think I belong in prison for my views. How exactly does that whole "hatred" and "tolerance" thing work for you liberals?

 

[shintao]

and it should be up to the establishment what kinds of restrooms to provide.

Well no kidding. Nobody is arguing about Target (unlike libtards - we don't believe we can force private industry on private property to do anything - we just choose to no longer shop there). The issue is public facilities. The public pool. Schools. Highway stops. Etc.

Really? There are no white only drinking fountains or restrooms in any private business because any business that opens it's door to the public is subject to civil rights legislation.

Really? You really want to tell us that someone has a "civil right" to force women to disrobe around him simply because he puts on a dress and makeup? Or doesn't even bother with that much, and just SAYS he "feels like a woman"?

Blacks fought to get equal rights in the long aftermath of slavery. The LGBT community and their lickspittles on the left are fighting to turn women into state-owned strippers.

"Get naked, and shut up, *****!" ain't exactly "We Shall Overcome", y'know what I'm saying?

Who says any women is forced? Try again. She can go at home, its her choice. Now force, is the Texas conservative roadside vagina stop where they fist the little girls.

As to strippers, you want to elect Trump who has a prostitute and porn star from a wife, but you want to fantasize about strippers.

Excuse me?! Did you just say, "Get naked around who we tell you to, or don't ever pee outside your own home" to over a hundred million women? THAT'S your solution? Accept your edicts of what should and shouldn't be comfortable for OUR bodies, or lose the ability to ever go to school, or have a job, or go anywhere away from our houses longer than, say, two hours at the most? Would you also like to stuff us in burqas, Mohammed? Are there any other rules you want to impose on what we do with our bodies?

By the way, Chucklehead, displaying your hatred of and desire to subjugate women is one thing, and no more than I would expect from a needledicked leftist metrosexual, but generalizing me in with the Trump supporters because you're too piss-stupid to bother to know better? You and both of your IQ points are outta here.

Who told you to get naked? You said it is forced, it is not forced, you have a choice. Who else is on your discrimination list? Bathrooms have stalls, use one.

I see you have already lost the debate when you start calling names. Where did I say I hated women? I like women if they have a vagina or a dick, or three breasts or two or one. It is you having the problem it seems. And I don't think I want to do you, thanks for the invitation, but you probably have a sexual disease.

 

[Dhara]

Truth? You're the one who needs a safe space, like a prison cell for the criminally insane.

Ooooh, let the real you show. You're accusing Cecilie of hatred and ugliness, yet here you are referring to me as "criminally insane." Not only that, you think I belong in prison for my views. How exactly does that whole "hatred" and "tolerance" thing work for you liberals?

Yep, I think you ought to be locked up for your insanity and violence.

 

[kaz]

It was probably a transsexual, and you couldn't tell the difference.

nope all woman ... try one sometime!

So . . . you post pictures of transsexual women (which you obviously find attractive and sexy), and then you accuse other men of finding them sexy? I find that very interesting. Seems like projection to me.

Is this why you are vehemently insisting that transsexual men are "equal" to real and legitimate women? Well, they are not. Sorry about that.

I don't hate them, nor do I have any ill will towards them, but I refuse to feed into the delusion. I think it is extremely unhealthy.

So where did you get your degree in psychology?

What's that smell? OMG, it reeks, it's awful. It's ... it's ... HYPOCRISY. And it's a bad one. Can't you go outside before you fire one of those off? At least give a warning ...

BTW, just a heads up. It's not required to have a degree in psychology to have an opinion and it's legal to post your opinion on message boards anyway. You may want to write that down for future reference, moron ...

You can have your wrong opinion all you want to. I'm just asking if they are qualified to make the claim that being trans is an "unhealthy delusion".

What's the recommended treatment for this "unhealthy delusion"?

OK, and where is your psychology degree from?

BTW, you may want to do some basic research on what a message board is since you post on one regularly ...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Put into your own words... What aspects of a transgender in your restroom is violating your privacy?

What is it that you are finding so difficult to understand?

A “transgender woman” is not a woman at all, but, as a matter of unalterable biological fact, a man. Women do not want men in their restrooms, locker rooms, or other similar facilities, and to compel them to endure that is a violation of their privacy.

It makes no difference if the man in question claims to “identify as a woman”. It makes no difference if he has had himself chemically- and/or surgically mutilated in order to appear more feminine. He's still a man, and he still has no damn business being in the women's facilities.

 

[Pop23]

It can't come remotely close to changing everything else.

We may be able to change the appearance of a penis, but it's still a penis. It can't have a period, does not cramp up during menstration. The altered penis does not allow pregnancy or morning sickness, childbirth. The altered individual does not go through menopause. Even sexual climax is (when possible) that if a man, not a woman.

I know the progressives hold science as their God, but they will never be able to change a Man into a Woman.

And that's fact.

I'm not arguing that sex reassignment surgery can change a man to a woman. That's not possible. However, what it can do with the aid of hormones and psycho therapy is allow the person to live a life that more closely matches their gender. Making the change can be risky and is very expensive. Most professionals consider it a treatment of last resort. Most transsexual, rely on psychiatry and mental health counseling to help live with the disorder.

I get that, but your asking society to give up their right to privacy ( and this isn't just about restrooms, it's lockers and showers as well. Post and Pre op) to supply theropy for these people.

The Government nor Society have a duty to provide this.

From Justice Ginsburg

The now-Supreme Court justice continued, “Separate places to disrobe, sleep, perform personal bodily functions are permitted, in some situations required, by regard for individual privacy.”

Read more: Ginsburg In 1975: Separate Bathrooms Are ‘In Some Situations Required’

In what respect do you consider it a violation of privacy ?

The now-Supreme Court justice continued, “Separate places to disrobe, sleep, perform personal bodily functions are permitted, in some situations required, by regard for individual privacy.”

Read more: Ginsburg In 1975: Separate Bathrooms Are ‘In Some Situations Required’

Put into your own words... What aspects of a transgender in your restroom is violating your privacy?

The loss of privacy.

 

[Pop23]

And with all that, what you fail to understand.

All the science in the world combined will never turn a Man into a Woman.

It's simply unicorn shit.

Currently, there is no way to change the 23rd chromosome pair which determines sex. However, just about everything else can be changed. As long as society is unable to accept people whose gender differs from their sex, their will be sexual reassignment surgery which allows a person to live a life more closely to their gender.

It can't come remotely close to changing everything else.

We may be able to change the appearance of a penis, but it's still a penis. It can't have a period, does not cramp up during menstration. The altered penis does not allow pregnancy or morning sickness, childbirth. The altered individual does not go through menopause. Even sexual climax is (when possible) that if a man, not a woman.

I know the progressives hold science as their God, but they will never be able to change a Man into a Woman.

And that's fact.

I'm not arguing that sex reassignment surgery can change a man to a woman. That's not possible. However, what it can do with the aid of hormones and psycho therapy is allow the person to live a life that more closely matches their gender. Making the change can be risky and is very expensive. Most professionals consider it a treatment of last resort. Most transsexual, rely on psychiatry and mental health counseling to help live with the disorder.

I get that, but your asking society to give up their right to privacy ( and this isn't just about restrooms, it's lockers and showers as well. Post and Pre op) to supply theropy for these people.

The Government nor Society have a duty to provide this.

From Justice Ginsburg

The now-Supreme Court justice continued, “Separate places to disrobe, sleep, perform personal bodily functions are permitted, in some situations required, by regard for individual privacy.”

Read more: Ginsburg In 1975: Separate Bathrooms Are ‘In Some Situations Required’

There is no privacy in public facilities now except for stalls. This is why we call such facilities public. The only way to achieve privacy is through a single use facility.

That's an opinion. A Supreme Court justice apparently disagrees.

The now-Supreme Court justice continued, “Separate places to disrobe, sleep, perform personal bodily functions are permitted, in some situations required, by regard for individual privacy.”

Read more: Ginsburg In 1975: Separate Bathrooms Are ‘In Some Situations Required’

You have the God given right to give up your privacy, but not take it from others.

 

[Pop23]

I'm not arguing that sex reassignment surgery can change a man to a woman. That's not possible. However, what it can do with the aid of hormones and psycho therapy is allow the person to live a life that more closely matches their gender. Making the change can be risky and is very expensive. Most professionals consider it a treatment of last resort. Most transsexual, rely on psychiatry and mental health counseling to help live with the disorder.

You know...there's a reason society rejects insanity by not embracing it as a norm. You might want to ponder on that one for awhile.

A person's gender is their sex, born at birth. Any rejection of that is a rejection of reality. People who reject reality are known in the DSM as "clinically insane".

Ponder. Ponder. Ponder... We as a society are under zero obligation to embrace insanity as a norm or to enable it by allowing men who are clinically insane to shower with women.

I don't think there is a threat or expectation to consider gender transitions the norm in our society. Don't over exaggerate the situation. It is a reality and a disorder that a small portion of the population suffers with. Being understanding and compassionate and fostering a safe comfortable society for them to live or seek treatment is the goal of supporters.

And as such we have fullfilled our duty by the establishment of Hate Crime legislation

You really think hate crime legislation fosters a safe comfortable society for LGBT? Deal done?

It is the duty of the Gover meant to punish offenders. And to defend the right to privacy.

Duty fullfilled

 

[Pop23]

3 bathrooms

men

women

and

transgenders


what is so hard to understand about that? it's easy

That's still discrimination. Obama's directive to the schools does not allow that. Transsexuals seek to use the restroom that matches their gender, not the sex designation on their birth certificate.

The "sex designation on their birth certificate" IS their gender. Try to comprehend that your fantasies are not reality just because you wish really hard. In my head, I'm a fairy princess, but shockingly, that doesn't give me wings and a magic wand in real life.

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

Sorry, a piece of paper does not change biology.

When he is able to give birth. Then you got something.

 

[Seawytch]

nope all woman ... try one sometime!

So . . . you post pictures of transsexual women (which you obviously find attractive and sexy), and then you accuse other men of finding them sexy? I find that very interesting. Seems like projection to me.

Is this why you are vehemently insisting that transsexual men are "equal" to real and legitimate women? Well, they are not. Sorry about that.

I don't hate them, nor do I have any ill will towards them, but I refuse to feed into the delusion. I think it is extremely unhealthy.

So where did you get your degree in psychology?

What's that smell? OMG, it reeks, it's awful. It's ... it's ... HYPOCRISY. And it's a bad one. Can't you go outside before you fire one of those off? At least give a warning ...

BTW, just a heads up. It's not required to have a degree in psychology to have an opinion and it's legal to post your opinion on message boards anyway. You may want to write that down for future reference, moron ...

You can have your wrong opinion all you want to. I'm just asking if they are qualified to make the claim that being trans is an "unhealthy delusion".

What's the recommended treatment for this "unhealthy delusion"?

OK, and where is your psychology degree from?

BTW, you may want to do some basic research on what a message board is since you post on one regularly ...

I'm not the one ascribing mental illness to people.

 

[kaz]

So . . . you post pictures of transsexual women (which you obviously find attractive and sexy), and then you accuse other men of finding them sexy? I find that very interesting. Seems like projection to me.

Is this why you are vehemently insisting that transsexual men are "equal" to real and legitimate women? Well, they are not. Sorry about that.

I don't hate them, nor do I have any ill will towards them, but I refuse to feed into the delusion. I think it is extremely unhealthy.

So where did you get your degree in psychology?

What's that smell? OMG, it reeks, it's awful. It's ... it's ... HYPOCRISY. And it's a bad one. Can't you go outside before you fire one of those off? At least give a warning ...

BTW, just a heads up. It's not required to have a degree in psychology to have an opinion and it's legal to post your opinion on message boards anyway. You may want to write that down for future reference, moron ...

You can have your wrong opinion all you want to. I'm just asking if they are qualified to make the claim that being trans is an "unhealthy delusion".

What's the recommended treatment for this "unhealthy delusion"?

OK, and where is your psychology degree from?

BTW, you may want to do some basic research on what a message board is since you post on one regularly ...

I'm not the one ascribing mental illness to people.

Actually you do that all the time, so where did you get your Psychology degree? It's your standard.

Oops, you don't have any degree ...

 

[Seawytch]

So where did you get your degree in psychology?

What's that smell? OMG, it reeks, it's awful. It's ... it's ... HYPOCRISY. And it's a bad one. Can't you go outside before you fire one of those off? At least give a warning ...

BTW, just a heads up. It's not required to have a degree in psychology to have an opinion and it's legal to post your opinion on message boards anyway. You may want to write that down for future reference, moron ...

You can have your wrong opinion all you want to. I'm just asking if they are qualified to make the claim that being trans is an "unhealthy delusion".

What's the recommended treatment for this "unhealthy delusion"?

OK, and where is your psychology degree from?

BTW, you may want to do some basic research on what a message board is since you post on one regularly ...

I'm not the one ascribing mental illness to people.

Actually you do that all the time, so where did you get your Psychology degree? It's your standard.

Oops, you don't have any degree ...

No, I ascribe mental illness to Trump voters. They aren't people.

Oh, and no, I don't have a degree. I joined the military instead of going to college. Don't regret it for a second.

 

[P@triot]

When a child is adopted, they get new birth certificates. My son's gender is legally male, even though he was born female.

And that child should be removed from your home on the grounds of child endangerment. It is beyond appalling that you would refuse your child the medical care they need for their mental health issues and instead exploit them as you are. We don't allow children to vote because they aren't capable of understanding the issues and making decisions. We don't hold children accountable to the law because they aren't capable of understanding the issues and making decisions. And we don't let children make decisions regarding their healthcare because they aren't capable of understanding the issues and making decisions. Yet you're going to sit there and let your child decide what sex they are?!? Seriously? Really?

Two "X" chromosomes means you are a woman. It's just a scientific fact. Your child has a severe mental health issue that needs medical treatment. And what do you do? You let them make decisions that a child should never make and is completely incapable of making. Shame on you. For the sake of that child, I pray that she is removed from your home soon and permanently.

 

[kaz]

What's that smell? OMG, it reeks, it's awful. It's ... it's ... HYPOCRISY. And it's a bad one. Can't you go outside before you fire one of those off? At least give a warning ...

BTW, just a heads up. It's not required to have a degree in psychology to have an opinion and it's legal to post your opinion on message boards anyway. You may want to write that down for future reference, moron ...

You can have your wrong opinion all you want to. I'm just asking if they are qualified to make the claim that being trans is an "unhealthy delusion".

What's the recommended treatment for this "unhealthy delusion"?

OK, and where is your psychology degree from?

BTW, you may want to do some basic research on what a message board is since you post on one regularly ...

I'm not the one ascribing mental illness to people.

Actually you do that all the time, so where did you get your Psychology degree? It's your standard.

Oops, you don't have any degree ...

No, I ascribe mental illness to Trump voters. They aren't people.

Oh, and no, I don't have a degree. I joined the military instead of going to college. Don't regret it for a second.

Where were you headed? Harvard? Stanford? MIT?