Meanwhile, in Oklahoma

[pknopp]

Not necessarily so. They're not teaching "all religions."

They will. Or none.

 

[JGalt]

They will. Or none.

Sorry, bro. You don't make Oklahoma laws and you're not a member of an Oklahoma school board.

 

[Arlette]

You womb is not suitable for children. Any poor kid who accidentally ends up there is a goner for sure, abortionist.

^^ overstimulated

 

[pknopp]

Sorry, bro. You don't make Oklahoma laws.

Neither does Jimbob.

 

[mudwhistle]

I'm not really interested in discussing your fantasy world.

The problem with most libs is they cannot possibly believe that we have a shitload of communists in our government that are trying to turn us into Venezuela.

In doing that, life as you know it will come to an abrupt end one day......and you just might be one of those idiots that volunteers to get on the boxcar willingly.

 

[JGalt]

Neither does Jimbob.

Actually, Oklahoma is following similar legislation in Florida that allows school districts to enlist volunteer chaplains to counsel students, and a new Louisiana state law requiring the display of the Ten Commandments in classrooms. Legislators in Kentucky, Utah, and Texas are trying to pass similar laws.

 

[pknopp]

The problem with most libs is they cannot possibly believe that we have a shitload of communists in our government that are trying to turn us into Venezuela.

Those who have got us into 35 trillion in debt are trying to turn us into Venezuela.

In doing that, life as you know it will come to an abrupt end one day......and you just might be one of those idiots that volunteers to get on the boxcar willingly.

I've discussed and warned how this will happen many times.

 

[pknopp]

Actually, Oklahoma is following similar legislation in Florida that allows school districts to enlist volunteer chaplains to counsel students, and a new Louisiana state law requiring the display of the Ten Commandments in classrooms. Legislators in Kentucky, Utah, and Texas are trying to pass similar laws.

I find it odd how the 10 Commandments have been posted in the church forever and those there can't seem to abide by it, but all of a sudden kids are going to because it gets posted in schools.

 

[JGalt]

The problem with most libs is they cannot possibly believe that we have a shitload of communists in our government that are trying to turn us into Venezuela.

In doing that, life as you know it will come to an abrupt end one day......and you just might be one of those idiots that volunteers to get on the boxcar willingly.

Naww, pknopp would just endlessly argue with the conductor about which way the train should go, like he does on here.

 

[JGalt]

I find it odd how the 10 Commandments have been posted in the church forever and those there can't seem to abide by it, but all of a sudden kids are going to because it gets posted in schools.

Maybe those schools should get a copy with larger print.

 

[scruffy]

He expressed that he wants his children to learn about the Bible in school, but that someone who also learned about and practices the Bible should be the instructor.

I understand your desire to deflect from what he said.............

Who cares what he said, doofus?

Millions - yes, millions - of people feel this way. It's still thoroughly unconstitutional.

You're being a gullible fool. The leftard media is eating away your brain.

 

[scruffy]

Any history class in the United States that uses the Bible would also be required to teach about the Quran, Torah, Veda, etc.

Not so.

The Bible as history is completely different from promoting an establishment of religion.

You need to get up to speed. Have a cup of coffee.

 

[scruffy]

How does that apply to Oklahoma schools? The US Congress isn't making a law that establishes a religion, this is a state issue.

Read the Oklahoma constitution.

Google is your friend.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"religious scholars".

The fascist right’s war on education continues.

 

[JGalt]

Read the Oklahoma constitution.

Google is your friend.

The Oklahoma does say that public schools shall be "free from sectarian control", which is not the case in this instance. But Oklahoma law does allow the reading of scripture in public schools.

 

[scruffy]

The Oklahoma does say that public schools shall be "free from sectarian control", which is not the case in this instance. But Oklahoma law does allow the reading of scripture in public schools.

Of course. Reading of scripture is not promoting an establishment. Mandating it is crossing the line though.

Oklahoma is full of Christians, but it's also full of Chinese and native Americans. The Buddhist eightfold way says the same thing as the Ten Commandments, they're allowed to read that too. They just can't mandate it. Mandating is promotion, it's unconstitutional.

 

[JGalt]

Of course. Reading of scripture is not promoting an establishment. Mandating it is crossing the line though.

Oklahoma is full of Christians, but it's also full of Chinese and native Americans. The Buddhist eightfold way says the same thing as the Ten Commandments, they're allowed to read that too. They just can't mandate it. Mandating is promotion, it's unconstitutional.

But Oklahoma's own State Superintendent Ryan Walters has expressed an openness to a national mandate requiring the Bible to be taught in schools. An existing mandate in Oklahoma requires for the Bible's impact on U.S. historical culture to be taught in classrooms. All that Republican Senator wants to do is make sure whomever is teaching the class is spiritually-qualified, and isn't going to interpret the scripture in a manner that would mislead the students into believing false doctrine.

 

[scruffy]

But Oklahoma's own State Superintendent Ryan Walters has expressed an openness to a national mandate requiring the Bible to be taught in schools.

That's what I said, he's a nutball.

An existing mandate in Oklahoma requires for the Bible's impact on U.S. historical culture to be taught in classrooms.

That's history, it's fair game.

All that Republican Senator wants to do is make sure whomever is teaching the class is spiritually-qualified, and isn't going to interpret the scripture in a manner that would mislead the students into believing false doctrine.

"Doctrine" is not history.

We're talking about history, not doctrinal spiritual qualification.

This is why they don't teach the Buddhist eightfold way, because it had little or no influence on American history.

But the Bible had a HUGE influence, starting on day one.

It's possible to teach that history without becoming doctrinal. I was taught exactly that way, in high school, in California. The class was called "foundations of Western civilization". It was an excellent class, great prep for AP history.

 

[Nobody911]

They are getting ready to fire the teachers in favor of "religious scholars".

One step closer to the republican's dream of bringing the handmaid's tail to real life.

Republican Senator Worried About Atheist Teachers Reading Bible to Students, Wants to Replace Them with Religious Scholars

Republican Sen. Markwayne Mullin, from Oklahoma, expressed concern about teachers who "may not be believers" themselves teaching the Bible in the state's public schools.

www.latintimes.com

Teachers can potentially sue a State Superintendent or school district for issues related to religious discrimination or violations of their rights under the First Amendment. Here are some key points regarding this possibility:

1. Discrimination Claims: If a teacher believes they were fired or discriminated against based on their religious beliefs, they may have grounds for a lawsuit under federal laws, such as Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits employment discrimination based on religion.

2. First Amendment Rights: Teachers in public schools have First Amendment rights, which include the free exercise of religion. If a teacher's rights are violated—such as being forced to adhere to a specific religious doctrine or being punished for their religious beliefs—they may have a case for a constitutional violation.

3. State Laws: Many states have their own laws that protect against discrimination based on religion. Teachers may be able to pursue claims under these state laws as well.

4. Legal Process: If a teacher believes they have been wronged, they typically start by filing a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) or a similar state agency. If the issue is not resolved, they may then pursue a lawsuit in court.

5. Burden of Proof: In any legal action, the burden of proof lies with the teacher to demonstrate that their religious beliefs were a factor in the adverse employment action taken against them.

It's important for teachers considering legal action to consult with an attorney who specializes in employment law or civil rights to understand their rights and the best course of action based on their specific circumstances.

 

[cnm]

He has neither authority nor support.

Nor, for some reason, does he have hordes of rightards calling him out.

They're only minimising and dismissing his behaviour.

Strange.