Me: Communism has killed 94 million people...

[danielpalos]

Nothing but appeals to emotion instead of reason right winger? Mr. Projector, your marvelous comedy, awaits you.

It is unreasonable of you to claim America's success for socialism.


Your actions show that you know you have to lie about socialism to defend it's record.


That reveals that you know it is wrong, yet you support it anyways.




Considering the scale of blood letting normally found in communist nations, one has to wonder why you want that here.



And judging you on that is not an appeal to emotion, but just sanity.


It would be insane of Americans to deal with you and pretend that you do not want to see US die in the millions when you DO.

Nothing but, "herrings of color", right wingers?

Dear, socialism only requires faithful execution of Ten simple Commandments from a God, to achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

The right wing prefers we get "punished with lucre", instead.

History shows that Socialism require genocide and mass murder and terror and oppression to be executed.


You can debate with the tens of millions of dead how ideologically pure their murderers were being.



Why do you hate Americans so much that you want that here?


Do you want that in Mexico?

Somalia had a true AnCap; of Course, socialism is better. We have a First World economy due to socialism, not free markets.

Your lies on those issues have been debunked and you had multiple chances to defend your claims.



We are now on why you want socialism here and IF you want it in Mexico.



Simple questions. Please answer, you would be genocidal maniac.

I don't have to lie. y'all are simply clueless and Causeless, like is custom and habit until it is indistinguishable from morals.

States and Statism is a form of socialism, not capitalism. True private sectors have no public sector.

 

[Correll]

Yeah, that is you being stupidly dishonest.


Your position on this is absurd, and you have done nothing to even TRY to defend it, because you know that you cannot.


YOu are nothing but a troll.

yeah, right. I am on the left, it is practically, a religion to not take the right wing seriously about politics, morals, the law, or economics.

Yet, you try to appropriate America's success, built on conservative principles and capitalism to defend your vile socialism.


Sounds like you take the right wing very, very seriously.

You are simply clueless and Causeless, like is (business as) usual for the right wing while alleging y'all are really in it, for the "gospel Truth."

Congress fixing fiscal policy so that the Fed can follow up with monetary policy is, command economics.

Micromanaging our tax codes, is pure, command economics.

Only the right wing, never gets it.

You are a lying idiot.



command economy


"
Command economy, economic system in which the means of production are publicly owned and economic activity is controlled by a central authority that assigns quantitative production goals and allots raw materials to productive enterprises. I"

Congress manages our economy and manufactures price controls and trade sanctions.

NO, it does not.


Congress does not tell Ford how many cars to build. Congress does not tell Hollywood how many or which movies to make. Congress does not tell McDonalds, when they need to build a new McDonalds in a new place, or how much to charge for a McNugget.


Your words are obvious lies.


It is unlikely that you believe them, as you demonstrate the ability to find your computer on a daily basis and presumably feed yourself.


THus, if you have that much brainpower, there is no way you believe the crap you post.


Why do you support a system you have to lie to defend?

 

[Correll]

It is unreasonable of you to claim America's success for socialism.


Your actions show that you know you have to lie about socialism to defend it's record.


That reveals that you know it is wrong, yet you support it anyways.




Considering the scale of blood letting normally found in communist nations, one has to wonder why you want that here.



And judging you on that is not an appeal to emotion, but just sanity.


It would be insane of Americans to deal with you and pretend that you do not want to see US die in the millions when you DO.

Nothing but, "herrings of color", right wingers?

Dear, socialism only requires faithful execution of Ten simple Commandments from a God, to achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

The right wing prefers we get "punished with lucre", instead.

History shows that Socialism require genocide and mass murder and terror and oppression to be executed.


You can debate with the tens of millions of dead how ideologically pure their murderers were being.



Why do you hate Americans so much that you want that here?


Do you want that in Mexico?

Somalia had a true AnCap; of Course, socialism is better. We have a First World economy due to socialism, not free markets.

Your lies on those issues have been debunked and you had multiple chances to defend your claims.



We are now on why you want socialism here and IF you want it in Mexico.



Simple questions. Please answer, you would be genocidal maniac.

I don't have to lie. y'all are simply clueless and Causeless, like is custom and habit until it is indistinguishable from morals.

States and Statism is a form of socialism, not capitalism. True private sectors have no public sector.

How many Americans do you hope would die?


And do you want the same in Mexico?

 

[danielpalos]

Sure, just another form of regulation.
....

So, why the obsession with pure Free Market Capitalism?

Comparison and contrast.

With what?

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

 

[Correll]

So, why the obsession with pure Free Market Capitalism?

Comparison and contrast.

With what?

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?

 

[Some Guy]

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

All you're saying is that government itself is a social construct. Of course it is, because it exists (theoretically) to serve everyone equally at the behest of everyone. That doesn't mean our society is "socialist" though.

 

[pinqy]

Anarco-capitalism? Did it?

Or was it warlordism and tribalism?


Do you think a minimum wage can be part of capitalism?

Sure, just another form of regulation.

I am on the left. Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment only exists to bail out Capitalists.

There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.

You really are in the dark on how economic systems work. Id suggest a Eco101 for dummies to start.

I did. You are simply full of fallacy.

Obviously, it didnt. Perhaps a remedial junior high level eco class might help you.

There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.

Nope. There is no way to get rid of frictional unemployment in any kind of capitalism, and structural unemployment will almost always be a problem as well.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So, why the obsession with pure Free Market Capitalism?

Comparison and contrast.

With what?

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Our govt has to be indifferent to everyone. It has nothing to do with socialism or econ platforms.

 

[Norman]

Anyway, I've now exposed two Communists on this forum, ScienceRocks (Matthew), and Pogo.

Because another thing I've learned over the years is that only a Communist denies that Communism kills.

Oh, but they aren't REAL communists!!!

 

[danielpalos]

Communism doesn't kill, it just highly encourages it.

Because communism requires everyone to be responsible for everyone, you can't have dissent. If you're not on board with it then you're a big problem cause you directly threaten it's legitimacy and it's day-to-day viability. Therefore, since pulling a trigger is easier than changing someone's mind, there you have it.

too much socialism in Chicago or not enough?

 

[danielpalos]

Comparison and contrast.

With what?

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?

How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?

 

[danielpalos]

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

All you're saying is that government itself is a social construct. Of course it is, because it exists (theoretically) to serve everyone equally at the behest of everyone. That doesn't mean our society is "socialist" though.

Only the clueless and the Causeless, beg the question.

This is social-ism: Nothing is more certain than the indispensable necessity of government, and it is equally undeniable, that whenever and however it is instituted, the people must cede to it some of their natural rights in order to vest it with requisite powers.

 

[danielpalos]

Sure, just another form of regulation.

I am on the left. Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment only exists to bail out Capitalists.

There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.

You really are in the dark on how economic systems work. Id suggest a Eco101 for dummies to start.

I did. You are simply full of fallacy.

Obviously, it didnt. Perhaps a remedial junior high level eco class might help you.

There is no unemployment only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.

Nope. There is no way to get rid of frictional unemployment in any kind of capitalism, and structural unemployment will almost always be a problem as well.

only underpayment does that; with market clearing wages, persons should be able to afford, market based forms of insurance.

 

[Correll]

With what?

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?

How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?

Unlike YOU, I support polices based on what is beneficial to society, American society.


Very few people are dying in this nation because of policies that I support.


You are the one here, that knowingly supports policies that you know would result is horrible death and carnage.

 

[danielpalos]

Comparison and contrast.

With what?

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Our govt has to be indifferent to everyone. It has nothing to do with socialism or econ platforms.

Yes, it does and it must. It creates a duopoly and division of labor in our economy.

 

[boedicca]

Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.

Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

 

[danielpalos]

Somalia had an example of an AnCap. It lasted around three years.

Our form of socialism is around two hundred years old and counting; some forms of socialism are older than our nation-State.

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?

How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?

Unlike YOU, I support polices based on what is beneficial to society, American society.


Very few people are dying in this nation because of policies that I support.


You are the one here, that knowingly supports policies that you know would result is horrible death and carnage.

Our Constitution says to provide for the general welfare not the general badfare.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.

Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Thats exactly right. Amazing how the left defends communism which has killed tens of millions.

 

[boedicca]

Incredible.

On one hand, you obviously are aware that socialism is a horror of a system that seems to always lead to mass death and oppression, as demonstrated by your lying in claiming the US as an example of successful socialism.

YET, despite demonstrating that you know socialism is evil, you still support it.


You are actively and knowingly pushing for mass death and oppression.



I'm really hoping you are like 12 and might grow out of this shit.

dude, simply having a social Contract that establishes the public sector of Government, is Socialism.

Don't trust whoever told you such stupid shit.


How many Americans would you hope to see die in your commie scenario?

How many people are dying due to your fantastical, right wing socialism on a national basis?

Unlike YOU, I support polices based on what is beneficial to society, American society.


Very few people are dying in this nation because of policies that I support.


You are the one here, that knowingly supports policies that you know would result is horrible death and carnage.

Our Constitution says to provide for the general welfare not the general badfare.

Article 1, Section 8. The points after the first paragraph are the details of what General Welfare actually means. They are related to national defense, foreign relations, treaties, immigration, secure money, post office, roads, intellectual property protection, national credit worthiness, rule of law and protection of the Constitution. They have nothing to do with wealth and income redistribution, and government micro management of civil society:

Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; — And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[boedicca]

Communist:friend: That wasn't REAL Communism, try again!

You won't get me to defend the atrocities of the Communism of Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin or Mao.

So tell me about the atrocities of modern Communist Vietnam?

Tell me how many millions are dying in modern Communist China?

I am no fan of Communism- I think it is a failed economic theory- but it has also become a boogeyman for idiots on the Right.

Here you go. Learn something:

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Thats exactly right. Amazing how the left defends communism which has killed tens of millions.

Communism/Socialism/Totalitarianism has killed many orders of magnitude more people than disturbed mass shooters in the United States.

Just sayin'.