Maybe He Really Is God

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

SimpleChic is pathetic.

She is on the spectrum, repetitively writing nonsense.

 

[Crepitus]

Musk has no influence as compared to Prog money.

Are you really that blind or are you pretending?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just in case I didn't make clear what damage Hussein Obama did with the lie that Islam is the religion of peace, his stance made lots of normal people afaid to call the barbarians what they are.

So soldiers like Hasan could shoot soldiers because everyone in charge was afraid to call him what he is.
Nidal Malik Hasan (born September 8, 1970) is a former American Army Major convicted of killing 13 people and injuring more than 30 others in the Fort Hood mass shooting on November 5, 2009.[3] Hasan was a United States Army Medical Corps psychiatrist who admitted to the shootings at his court-martial in August 2013.[4][5] A jury panel of 13 officers convicted him of 13 counts of premeditated murder, 32 counts of attempted murder, and unanimously recommended he be dismissed from the service and sentenced to death.[6][7][8] Hasan is incarcerated at the United States Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas awaiting execution."
Wikipedia




Just this week we learned that law enforcement in England allowed some 1400 white Christian girls to be raped by Islamist Pakastanis becaue they didn't want to be called racist:

Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1400 children exploited ...
BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › uk-england-south-yorksh...

— ... fear of being thought as racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so." Failures by those charged with ...



In this thread we can see posters who unconsiously believe they cannot question the God Obama.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hater is what she is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Another perfect example of the infallibility of the "Every conservative accusation is a confession" rule.

Conservatives are trying to justify worshipping Trump as their messiah. They don't want to simply justify classifying Trump as God's annointed one. They want to justify praying to Trump as if Trump himself was the actual diety, as so many in the Trump cult actually do.

That's why they're lying about liberals supposedly worshipping Obama. They think if they can deflect attention away from themselves that way, the laughter directed as them will cease, and people will stop pointing out how anti-Christian the Trump cultists are.

Needless to say, liberals never do the messiah thing, as liberals aren't brainwashed cultists.

Avoid Hell, Trump cultists. Stop worshipping golden idols and false prophets. Stop pledging your loyality to someone who matches all the characteristics of the Antichrist. Stop worshipping Trump. Your soul is at stake. Keep behaving as you do, and you'll end up in the circle of hell where the heretics go.

When I embarras them as I did with this thread, they simply lie.

"Conservatives are trying to justify worshipping Trump as their messiah."

Alinsky said to claim the other side was doing what you are actually doing.




Truly ironic is that the anti-religion Democrats ran a candidate for the presidency by claiming that he is God.

True story.

1. The Hollywood celebrities pledge Go to 3:54:"I pledge to be a servant to our president and all mankind." Creepy?
   
   Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video - YouTube
   
   
   2. Time's Nancy Gibbs who opened this week's cover story bycomparing Obama with Jesus:“Some princes are born in palaces. Some are born in mangers. But a few are born in the imagination, out of scraps of history and hope...” In the November 17 issue.
   
   3. Chris Matthews: "If you're in [a room] with Obama,you feel the spirit moving."Book Monitor (Current Edition)
   
   4. “Obama seemedthe political equivalent of a rainbow — a sudden preternatural event inspiring awe and ecstasy....” Time’s Joe Klein, October 23, 2006 cover story, "Why Barack Obama Could Be the Next President."
   
   
   
   5. NBC’s Matt Lauer noted that “people” have called Obama “ ‘The Savior,’ ‘The Messiah,’ ‘The Messenger of Change,’“ Today Show, NBC, October 20, 2008.
   
   6. The New York Time’s Judith Warner reported, “Many women- not too surprisingly – were dreaming about sex with the president [Obama]”.http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...t-a-president/
   “…the Obamas are not just a beacon of hope, inspiration and“demigodlikeness,”Ibid.
   
   
   7. David Cordero, 24, made the sculpture for his senior show after noticing all the attention Obama has received: "All of this is a response to what I've been witnessing and hearing, this idea that Barack is sort ofa potential saviorthat might come and absolve the country of all its sins," Cordero said.Sculpture of Obama as Jesuscauses stir - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News - msnbc.com
   
   8. . In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimickingthe cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
   ... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
   SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).
   
   
   9. “I haven’t seen a politician get this kind ofwalk-on-watercoverage since Colin Powell a dozen years ago flirted with making a run for the White House,” said Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz on Meet the Press in February 2007
   
   10. Samantha Fennell, formerly an associate publisher of Elle, wrote on the magazine’s website a month later: “When I attended my second “Obama Live” fund-raiser last week at New York City’s Grand Hyatt, . . . I was on my feet as Senator Obama entered the room. Fate had blessed me in this moment. . . . In a moment of divine intervention,he saw me,…”
   
   11.Filmmaker Spike Lee, predicting an Obama victory, implicitly compared the candidate with Christ: “You’ll have to measure time by ‘Before Obama’ and ‘After Obama.’ . . .
   
   
   12. Jesse Jackson, Jr. called Obama’s securing the Democratic nomination “so extraordinary thatanother chapter could be added to the Bibleto chronicle its significance.”
   
   
   13. . Louis Farrakhan went one better, according to the website WorldNetDaily: “Barack has captured the youth. . . . That’s a sign.When the Messiah speaks,the youth will hear, andthe Messiah is absolutely speaking.”
   
   
   14. His followers needed to re-elect him to a second term, so that he could continue to accomplish the promises he made, thus, realizing his vision of America as a more perfect political union or“heaven here on earth.”
   The Gospel According to Apostle Barack, by Barbara A. Thompson.
   
   15. "Does it not feel as ifsome special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?"
   -- Daily Kos
   
   
   16"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . .He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . .. Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."
   - Ezra Klein
   
   17. "Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind."
   -- Gerald Campbell
   
   18."We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
   -- Oprah Winfrey
   
   19. “I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan."
   -- Bill Rush
   
   
   
   20. "This is bigger than Kennedy. . . .This is the New Testament."| "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
   -- Chris Matthews

Newsweek editor Evan Thomas said President Obama is "sort of God" in a way that's "standing above the country." Transcript below.




"CHRIS MATTHEWS (HOST):Evan Thomas is editor at large for Newsweek magazine. Evan, you remember 1984. It wasn't 100 years ago. Reagan and World War II and the sense of us as the good guys in the world, how are we doing?
EVAN THOMAS: Well, we were the good guys in 1984, it felt that way. It hasn't felt that way in recent years. So Obama's had, really, a different task We're seen too often as the bad guys. And he, he has a very different job from ... Reagan was all about America, and you talked about it. Obama is - we are above that now. We're not just parochial, we're not just chauvinistic, we're not just provincial. We stand for something, I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."

Newsweek Editor Evan Thomas: Obama Is "Sort Of God" | RealClearPolitics



“Barbara Walters admits ‘we’ thought Obama was ‘the next messiah’” Barbara Walters admits ‘we’ thought Obama was ‘the next messiah’

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hater is what she is.

I put a cork in your pie hole every time showing what you voted for.

Love it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They have a longstanding habit of desperately trying to turn criticisms of Trump and Trumpism around, no matter how poor and/or weak the comparison.

There was definitely an unusual euphoria around Obama when he won, and there were definitely some over the top moments. It clearly faded over time, especially as it became clear his administration was not going to be "transformative". Obviously much of the euphoria was based on the race breakthrough. So, relatively understandable.

Today, we have to watch a hefty portion of American Christianity selling its soul to a childish, vulgar, immoral orange thug, which has done more damage to the religion than any scandal could have. He mocks the religion every day with his behavior, and they're fine with it. They'll even attack when it's pointed out. Sad to watch. Now we know.

"They have a longstanding habit of desperately trying to turn criticisms of Trump and Trumpism around, no matter how poor and/or weak the comparison."


There is nothing in the OP about Trump, liar.



And I prove everything I post.



Truly ironic is that the anti-religion Democrats ran a candidate for the presidency by claiming that he is God.

True story.

1. The Hollywood celebrities pledge Go to 3:54:"I pledge to be a servant to our president and all mankind." Creepy?
   
   Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher's I Pledge Video - YouTube
   
   
   2. Time's Nancy Gibbs who opened this week's cover story bycomparing Obama with Jesus:“Some princes are born in palaces. Some are born in mangers. But a few are born in the imagination, out of scraps of history and hope...” In the November 17 issue.
   
   3. Chris Matthews: "If you're in [a room] with Obama,you feel the spirit moving."Book Monitor (Current Edition)
   
   4. “Obama seemedthe political equivalent of a rainbow — a sudden preternatural event inspiring awe and ecstasy....” Time’s Joe Klein, October 23, 2006 cover story, "Why Barack Obama Could Be the Next President."
   
   
   
   5. NBC’s Matt Lauer noted that “people” have called Obama “ ‘The Savior,’ ‘The Messiah,’ ‘The Messenger of Change,’“ Today Show, NBC, October 20, 2008.
   
   6. The New York Time’s Judith Warner reported, “Many women- not too surprisingly – were dreaming about sex with the president [Obama]”.http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...t-a-president/
   “…the Obamas are not just a beacon of hope, inspiration and“demigodlikeness,”Ibid.
   
   
   7. David Cordero, 24, made the sculpture for his senior show after noticing all the attention Obama has received: "All of this is a response to what I've been witnessing and hearing, this idea that Barack is sort ofa potential saviorthat might come and absolve the country of all its sins," Cordero said.Sculpture of Obama as Jesuscauses stir - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News - msnbc.com
   
   8. . In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimickingthe cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
   ... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
   SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).
   
   
   9. “I haven’t seen a politician get this kind ofwalk-on-watercoverage since Colin Powell a dozen years ago flirted with making a run for the White House,” said Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz on Meet the Press in February 2007
   
   10. Samantha Fennell, formerly an associate publisher of Elle, wrote on the magazine’s website a month later: “When I attended my second “Obama Live” fund-raiser last week at New York City’s Grand Hyatt, . . . I was on my feet as Senator Obama entered the room. Fate had blessed me in this moment. . . . In a moment of divine intervention,he saw me,…”
   
   11.Filmmaker Spike Lee, predicting an Obama victory, implicitly compared the candidate with Christ: “You’ll have to measure time by ‘Before Obama’ and ‘After Obama.’ . . .
   
   
   12. Jesse Jackson, Jr. called Obama’s securing the Democratic nomination “so extraordinary thatanother chapter could be added to the Bibleto chronicle its significance.”
   
   
   13. . Louis Farrakhan went one better, according to the website WorldNetDaily: “Barack has captured the youth. . . . That’s a sign.When the Messiah speaks,the youth will hear, andthe Messiah is absolutely speaking.”
   
   
   14. His followers needed to re-elect him to a second term, so that he could continue to accomplish the promises he made, thus, realizing his vision of America as a more perfect political union or“heaven here on earth.”
   The Gospel According to Apostle Barack, by Barbara A. Thompson.
   
   15. "Does it not feel as ifsome special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?"
   -- Daily Kos
   
   
   16"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . .He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . .. Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."
   - Ezra Klein
   
   17. "Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind."
   -- Gerald Campbell
   
   18."We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
   -- Oprah Winfrey
   
   19. “I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan."
   -- Bill Rush
   
   
   
   20. "This is bigger than Kennedy. . . .This is the New Testament."| "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
   -- Chris Matthews

Newsweek editor Evan Thomas said President Obama is "sort of God" in a way that's "standing above the country." Transcript below.




"CHRIS MATTHEWS (HOST):Evan Thomas is editor at large for Newsweek magazine. Evan, you remember 1984. It wasn't 100 years ago. Reagan and World War II and the sense of us as the good guys in the world, how are we doing?
EVAN THOMAS: Well, we were the good guys in 1984, it felt that way. It hasn't felt that way in recent years. So Obama's had, really, a different task We're seen too often as the bad guys. And he, he has a very different job from ... Reagan was all about America, and you talked about it. Obama is - we are above that now. We're not just parochial, we're not just chauvinistic, we're not just provincial. We stand for something, I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God."

Newsweek Editor Evan Thomas: Obama Is "Sort Of God" | RealClearPolitics



“Barbara Walters admits ‘we’ thought Obama was ‘the next messiah’” Barbara Walters admits ‘we’ thought Obama was ‘the next messiah’

 

[PoliticalChic]

SimpleChic is pathetic.

She is on the spectrum, repetitively writing nonsense.

Why did you vote for Kamala.....based on achievements, or as I have noted, a slave mentality, ready to lick the boots of any impecile they put up.


Did you vote for the God Obama too????


He won't answer.

 

[mamooth]

When I embarras them as I did with this thread, they simply lie.

I know my offense.

I dared suggest that the Mango Messiah was not actually divine.

Now the Trump cult hates me forever.

That's how cults roll.

PC, take a break and wipe the spittle off your screen.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I know my offense.

I dared suggest that the Mango Messiah was not actually divine.

Now the Trump cult hates me forever.

That's how cults roll.

PC, take a break and wipe the spittle off your screen.

I proved that your party actually said that Obama was/is God.

The boob who decided that the world'ws worst state sponsor of terrorism deserved nuclear weapons.

And you agreed!!!

No, my side did no such thing.



This thread is interesting in another way, too.

How many OPs are there, by Democrat supporters, who criticize any aspect of their political champion, as this OP does Trump?

None.


They have been trained to worship their candidates as their lord and saviors.


The mob characteristic most gustily exhibited by liberals is the tendency to worship and idolize their political leaders. Le Bon explained that mobs can only grasp the “very simple and very exaggerated.” Their chosen images must be absolute and uncompromising… As Le Bon says, the “primitive” black-and-white emotions of a crowd slip easily into “infatuation for an individual.”


Liberals worship so many political deities that they must refer to them by initials, just to save time- FDR, JFK, RFK, MLK, LBJ, and O.J. Ever hear a conservative get weepy about “RWR” or refer to something as hokey as “Camelot”?

Passionate adoration are the primitive emotions of a mob, sentiments generally associated with women, children, and savages, according to Le Bon. Coulter pointed this out.


They actually ran a recent flop a God himself.......yes, they called Obama their god.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Some creepy North Korean style shit.

 

[mamooth]

I proved that your party actually said that Obama was/is God.

No, you didn't.

You proved a few random people made various vague statements.

You really suck at lying. China doesn't pay you for such incompetence, so I imagine your Chinamasters will be having a word with you.

 

[IM2]

So Hussein is God?


Good to get your perspective.

You need to check yourself into the nuthouse. Obama has been out of office for 8 years.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Don’t forget the Obama Store in Union Station in DC.

 

[daveman]

View attachment 1062004

Oooh, someone gets a little huffy when his little-g god is disparaged.

 

[mamooth]

Oooh, someone gets a little huffy when his little-g god is disparaged.

Don't misgender. PC is a female.

Do you join in with most Trump cultists in proclaiming the actual divinity of Trump, or do you say that he's only a mere prophet, a holy vessel that God works through?

 

[daveman]

Is Barack Obama the Messiah?​

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

Obama Conversion Stories​

"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
-- Michelle Obama
"Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus."
-- Politiken (Danish newspaper)
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."
--Lawrence Carter
"Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama."
-- Dinesh Sharma
"We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra."
-- Chicago] Sun-Times
"A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"
-- Mark Morford
"What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history"
-- Jesse Jackson, Jr.
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
-- Barack Obama
"Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?"
-- Daily Kos
"He communicates God-like energy..."
-- Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)
"Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul"
-- Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times
"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."
-- Halle Berry
"A quantum leap in American consciousness"
-- Deepak Chopra
"He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."
-- Gary Hart
"Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence."
-- Eve Konstantine
"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
-- Chris Matthews
"[Obama is ] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom . . . [He is] the man for this time."
-- Toni Morrison
"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."
-- Ezra Klein
"Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind."
-- Gerald Campbell
"We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
-- Oprah Winfrey
“I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan."
-- Bill Rush

 

[Crepitus]

Oooh, someone gets a little huffy when his little-g god is disparaged.

I have no need for ghods. I am an adult.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Is Barack Obama the Messiah?​

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

Obama Conversion Stories​

"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
-- Michelle Obama
"Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus."
-- Politiken (Danish newspaper)
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."
--Lawrence Carter
"Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama."
-- Dinesh Sharma
"We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra."
-- Chicago] Sun-Times
"A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"
-- Mark Morford
"What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history"
-- Jesse Jackson, Jr.
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
-- Barack Obama
"Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?"
-- Daily Kos
"He communicates God-like energy..."
-- Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)
"Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul"
-- Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times
"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."
-- Halle Berry
"A quantum leap in American consciousness"
-- Deepak Chopra
"He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."
-- Gary Hart
"Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence."
-- Eve Konstantine
"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
-- Chris Matthews
"[Obama is ] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom . . . [He is] the man for this time."
-- Toni Morrison
"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."
-- Ezra Klein
"Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind."
-- Gerald Campbell
"We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
-- Oprah Winfrey
“I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan."
-- Bill Rush

“Obama is an anti-American Marxist opportunist piece of shit.”
-- Roshawn Markwees

 

[Polishprince]

You need to check yourself into the nuthouse. Obama has been out of office for 8 years.

Except for the fact that he never left the politics racket, and has been trying to influence politics since, instead of going to the old Presidents' Home with Carter and Bush.