Mass shootings now ho hum.....

[Pogo]

Isn't it odd that the poster, 2aguy is frantically posting a bunch of crap when he and his fellow gun cultists have already won here in America.....

2aguy is a one trick pony. He is abscessed with his guns, and can not talk about anything else. I stopped reading his posts years ago. I honestly think that he sleeps with them.

I don't think he sleeps.

 

[Pogo]

Yes......the shooter was a muslim terrorist......what about that is so hard for you left wing morons to understand...they are conducting these shootings solely based on their religious doctrine.....

Saudi Attacker 'Radicalized' Before Rampage, Posted Anti-American Screed To Social Media

NOWHERE in your own link is there any claim he was Muslim, or religious at all. You just pulled that out of your ass.
In fact (again) your own link, right from the title, indicates political motive, not religious. See the word "radicalized"? You should --- you posted it.

Sure you don't want to make another religion ass-sumption about his victim whose name was Mohammed Sameh Haitham?

 

[lennypartiv]

The possibility of shootings like this happening are the price we pay for living in a free society.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The possibility of shootings like this happening are the price we pay for living in a free society.

Japan, and Great Britain, both with strict gun laws, are not free countries? Who knew!

 

[2aguy]

Isn't it odd that the poster, 2aguy is frantically posting a bunch of crap when he and his fellow gun cultists have already won here in America.....

2aguy is a one trick pony. He is abscessed with his guns, and can not talk about anything else. I stopped reading his posts years ago. I honestly think that he sleeps with them.

Really? You are pretty stupid then...I post about lots of topics.......you are just an idiot.

 

[2aguy]

The possibility of shootings like this happening are the price we pay for living in a free society.

Japan, and Great Britain, both with strict gun laws, are not free countries? Who knew!

Japan has a police state and their society is obsessed with conformity....British police state they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into the country and violent crime is increasing there...as their fatherless boys become more violent.

 

[2aguy]

The possibility of shootings like this happening are the price we pay for living in a free society.

Japan, and Great Britain, both with strict gun laws, are not free countries? Who knew!

Japan....

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.



Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't. A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates. Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

My guns had nothing to do with either.

Thoughts and prayers pard, no worries, this is all normal in america.

--------------------------------------------- maybe , depends on how you count but this was USA Military wasn't it ?? I think that that's interesting and I ASSUME that the Navy murderer / shooter was a foreigner and 'arab' imported into the Ranks of USA Military 'BO .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

 

[2aguy]

Thoughts and prayers pard, no worries, this is all normal in america.

--------------------------------------------- maybe , depends on how you count but this was USA Military wasn't it ?? I think that that's interesting and I ASSUME that the Navy murderer / shooter was a foreigner and 'arab' imported into the Ranks of USA Military 'BO .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

That journalist was a supporter of muslim terrorism and hated the reforms the Saudis are trying to implement...he was no good guy.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

--------------------------------------------- maybe , depends on how you count but this was USA Military wasn't it ?? I think that that's interesting and I ASSUME that the Navy murderer / shooter was a foreigner and 'arab' imported into the Ranks of USA Military 'BO .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

That journalist was a supporter of muslim terrorism and hated the reforms the Saudis are trying to implement...he was no good guy.

"Never forget 9/11". Say Saudis love us for me.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.

Americans can always justify anything at all.

 

[Flash]

Thoughts and prayers pard, no worries, this is all normal in america.

--------------------------------------------- maybe , depends on how you count but this was USA Military wasn't it ?? I think that that's interesting and I ASSUME that the Navy murderer / shooter was a foreigner and 'arab' imported into the Ranks of USA Military 'BO .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

Muslims suck even more that you American hating Moon Bats!

We are idiots letting the assholes come into this country.

Thank god that Trump had the moral courage to curtail the Muslim refugees from coming in.

Now he has to figure out a way to get you stupid Moon Bats outta here.

 

[pismoe]

HE ain't going to , they are 'keepers' same as the 'otm' and 'mexicans' and in my opinion .

 

[pismoe]

The possibility of shootings like this happening are the price we pay for living in a free society.

Japan, and Great Britain, both with strict gun laws, are not free countries? Who knew!

--------------------------------------- guess that YOU didn't know that they aren't Free Countries . As one example both have vastly curtailed Freedom as speech . As 2 , they have been mostly disarmed VS .

--------------------------------------------- maybe , depends on how you count but this was USA Military wasn't it ?? I think that that's interesting and I ASSUME that the Navy murderer / shooter was a foreigner and 'arab' imported into the Ranks of USA Military 'BO .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

That journalist was a supporter of muslim terrorism and hated the reforms the Saudis are trying to implement...he was no good guy.

----------------------------------------- 'kashoogi' freely took his job as a journalist . He messed with the wrong people and got what he got .

 

[pismoe]

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

That journalist was a supporter of muslim terrorism and hated the reforms the Saudis are trying to implement...he was no good guy.

"Never forget 9/11". Say Saudis love us for me.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.

Americans can always justify anything at all.

--------------------------------- doesn't matter if they love us or not . All we need to do is do their training in their desert lands and keep them out of the USA 'BO .

 

[pismoe]

Thoughts and prayers pard, no worries, this is all normal in america.

--------------------------------------------- maybe , depends on how you count but this was USA Military wasn't it ?? I think that that's interesting and I ASSUME that the Navy murderer / shooter was a foreigner and 'arab' imported into the Ranks of USA Military 'BO .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

----------------------------------------------- Saudi is their country . But you make a good point about WHY Saudis and their types should remain in the desert 'BO .

 

[2aguy]

The possibility of shootings like this happening are the price we pay for living in a free society.

Japan, and Great Britain, both with strict gun laws, are not free countries? Who knew!

--------------------------------------- guess that YOU didn't know that they aren't Free Countries . As one example both have vastly curtailed Freedom as speech . As 2 , they have been mostly disarmed VS .

He wasn't imported into the ranks of the USA military.

He was here for flight school training.

The US trains allied pilots when they fly the airplanes they buy from us.

I think this is a lesson that we should stop allowing Muslims to come into the country.

They don't know how to play nice.

-------------------------------------------- thank you . IMPORTED is a general description [by me] because otherwise they'd be back in Saudi where they belong . Training should be done in Saudi , they have plenty of room in their deserts for a landing strip . --------------------- agree with both your concluding line though but I don't agree with any foreigners being IN or associated with USA Military IN the USA Flash .

I understand your use of the word. That is fine.

However, I think we need a moratorium on all Muslims coming into the US until they learn how to play nice.

We partner in genocide with the radical Islamist Saudis who engage in public square beheadings and and journalist liquefaction precisely because they play as dirty as we do.

That journalist was a supporter of muslim terrorism and hated the reforms the Saudis are trying to implement...he was no good guy.

----------------------------------------- 'kashoogi' freely took his job as a journalist . He messed with the wrong people and got what he got .

He was a part of the muslim brotherhood and against the reforms the new Prince is trying to implement......giving women more rights and freedom...

 

[Blues Man]

And this is another thing........all those normal people on that base....didn't bring a gun onto the base and kill people.....it was one guy who ignored the law, over and over, who brought the illegal gun onto the base and killed people...

So if all those normal people had carried their legal guns with them on the base the day before...none of them would have used them to shoot anyone.......and if they brought their legal guns onto the base the day of the attack...none of them would have used them to shoot innocent people...

You really don't understand the dynamic.....

I do understand it. And I understand that the guy had easy access to guns because he is in America and therefore when he went into a funk, or whatever ailed him, without breaking a sweat he procured a gun and commenced to shoot people at school.
I wonder if it was a personal vendetta--twenty of seven in the morning in a classroom building? Is that where most terrorists would choose to strike? I don't know, they're all insane anyway so why am I trying to make sense of any of it.

So you think this Saudi guy bough his guns here in the US?

He was a Saudi soldier and he probably brought his kit with him.

We should not be training foreign military personnel in our bases here in the states

He was not a soldier dumbass. The rest of your post is made up also.

The FBI confirmed Saturday that Shamrani, a 21-year-old second lieutenant in the Saudi air force, was the shooter. Shamrani was a student naval flight officer, the FBI said.

So he wasn't a soldier he was just a second Lt. in the Saudi military

Why do you quote my post to agree with me? It looks like you are trying to prove me wrong, when I said the same thing you did.

However, I think you for your support in my contention.

So when you reply to my post call me dumb ass and say it was "made up" that was you agreeing with me?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I do understand it. And I understand that the guy had easy access to guns because he is in America and therefore when he went into a funk, or whatever ailed him, without breaking a sweat he procured a gun and commenced to shoot people at school.
I wonder if it was a personal vendetta--twenty of seven in the morning in a classroom building? Is that where most terrorists would choose to strike? I don't know, they're all insane anyway so why am I trying to make sense of any of it.

So you think this Saudi guy bough his guns here in the US?

He was a Saudi soldier and he probably brought his kit with him.

We should not be training foreign military personnel in our bases here in the states

He was not a soldier dumbass. The rest of your post is made up also.

The FBI confirmed Saturday that Shamrani, a 21-year-old second lieutenant in the Saudi air force, was the shooter. Shamrani was a student naval flight officer, the FBI said.

So he wasn't a soldier he was just a second Lt. in the Saudi military

Why do you quote my post to agree with me? It looks like you are trying to prove me wrong, when I said the same thing you did.

However, I think you for your support in my contention.

So when you reply to my post call me dumb ass and say it was "made up" that was you agreeing with me?

You said he was a soldier and then corrected your mistake.

 

[Blues Man]

So you think this Saudi guy bough his guns here in the US?

He was a Saudi soldier and he probably brought his kit with him.

We should not be training foreign military personnel in our bases here in the states

He was not a soldier dumbass. The rest of your post is made up also.

The FBI confirmed Saturday that Shamrani, a 21-year-old second lieutenant in the Saudi air force, was the shooter. Shamrani was a student naval flight officer, the FBI said.

So he wasn't a soldier he was just a second Lt. in the Saudi military

Why do you quote my post to agree with me? It looks like you are trying to prove me wrong, when I said the same thing you did.

However, I think you for your support in my contention.

So when you reply to my post call me dumb ass and say it was "made up" that was you agreeing with me?

You said he was a soldier and then corrected your mistake.

A distinction without a difference

Any member of the military can be called a soldier

 

[MAGAman]

In the last few days:

Pearl Harbor shooting: US sailor opens fire at a shipyard days before the anniversary of historic attack - CNN

Pensacola shooting: 3 dead and several injured at Naval Air Station - CNN


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