Maryland has officially taken first step to succeed the union

[SassyIrishLass]

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

Did you happen to check the date on your article? Also -

LOL 2007?

 

[deltex1]

Threads get stupider and stupiderererererer.

 

[Pogo]

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

Did you happen to check the date on your article? Also -

The measure would award Maryland's 10 electoral votes to the national popular vote winner. The plan would only take effect if states representing a majority of the nation's 538 electoral votes decided to make the same change.

I don't believe that ever occurred.

Good eye. I saw where it referred to "Governor Schwarzenegger" together with "last year".

Plus, Martin O'Malley isn't the gov of MD any more.

 

[aris2chat]

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

Like California, at least 35% voted for Trump

neither state is leaving

 

[Rustic]

>> Raskin, a Democrat, said he hoped Maryland's support for the idea will start a national discussion and "kick off an insurrection among spectator states - the states that are completely bypassed and sidelined" during presidential campaigns.

"Going by the national popular vote will reawaken politics in every part of the country," Raskin said. <<​

Good idea. That's a band-aid at least.

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

We don't need California to follow -- we need all the states to follow

But they tried it there:

>> California lawmakers adopted the measure last year, but Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it.

National Popular Vote, a group that supports the change, said there are legislative sponsors for the idea in 47 states. Ryan O'Donnell, a spokesman for the group, described O'Malley's decision to sign the legislation as "an open invitation" for other states to join Maryland.

But not everyone is buying into the idea. North Dakota and Montana rejected it earlier this year. Opponents say the change would hurt small rural states, where the percentage of the national vote would be even smaller than the three electoral votes they each have in the overall Electoral College. <<

Boo the **** hoo. It's supposed to be "one man one vote" not "one state one vote".
Doesn't "hurt small rural states" at all It would in fact do the same thing for them that it does everywhere else ---- reenfranchise all of their population who dissents from their states "all or nothing" EV farce, which effectively means those voters have NO VOTE at all. And that discourages voting. That can't be more obvious.

Well discouraging voting is never a good thing.

You can't help being a stupid ************, absolutely without the EC people in small rural states might as will not even vote because a state like California would make their votes mean nothing. More people voted in more states for Donald Trump that is why we have the EC. The founders were genius in this matter. Fact

 

[IsaacNewton]

California is set to vote on a referendum in 2019 on seceding. And it is time. The blue states are the ones with the economies and the money. The only real red state that has a respectable economy is Taxus, so let the south and a few other states make their exit and become a poor version of Czechoslovakia, which is what they already are in spirit. Then they'll have no one to whine about. Imagine that, their own redneck country that they'll have to be responsible for and nobody to ***** about on conservative radio or Faux News.

But it's time, it's clear there are just too many conservatives who can't accept anyone that is different than they are, so say buhbye and via con dios, well for them it's a fake god, but whatever.

Without the drain of having to carry the red states which are the large drain on welfare in the country the blue states will lose a huge ball and chain on their ankle. We'll ban selling or showing any movies in Fake Jesustoria and they'll only have NASCAR as a sport as all blacks will be banned from living there.

The sooner the better. The whining and bitching has just worn out it's welcome. Go have your Klan seated as the Supreme Court cons and stop whining to the rest of the world.

 

[emilynghiem]

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

Thanks TheDude
Has anyone mapped out the results if each state splits their Electoral votes proportionally?
A. what if they all did that with their share of Electoral votes.
B. or what is the LEAST number of states that would need to agree to that for Clinton to win?
Which states would it take?

I think if you are going to do something other than "winner take all"
then splitting it proportionally would be more fair to all voters, and still respect the Electoral college
vote per state. It's just splitting that share up among the candidates instead of all votes going to one party.

 

[Rustic]

California is set to vote on a referendum in 2019 on seceding. And it is time. The blue states are the ones with the economies and the money. The only real red state that has a respectable economy is Taxus, so let the south and a few other states make their exit and become a poor version of Czechoslovakia, which is what they already are in spirit. Then they'll have no one to whine about. Imagine that, their own redneck country that they'll have to be responsible for and nobody to ***** about on conservative radio or Faux News.

But it's time, it's clear there are just too many conservatives who can't accept anyone that is different than they are, so say buhbye and via con dios, well for them it's a fake god, but whatever.

Without the drain of having to carry the red states which are the large drain on welfare in the country the blue states will lose a huge ball and chain on their ankle. We'll ban selling or showing any movies in Fake Jesustoria and they'll only have NASCAR as a sport as all blacks will be banned from living there.

The sooner the better. The whining and bitching has just worn out it's welcome. Go have your Klan seated as the Supreme Court cons and stop whining to the rest of the world.

I'm all for it, a conservative states have all the natural resources and food… And the land. So California can join Mexico if they want in the Northeast can join the Canada. Actually they should split up the country by county and land area.

 

[Pogo]

>> Raskin, a Democrat, said he hoped Maryland's support for the idea will start a national discussion and "kick off an insurrection among spectator states - the states that are completely bypassed and sidelined" during presidential campaigns.

"Going by the national popular vote will reawaken politics in every part of the country," Raskin said. <<​

Good idea. That's a band-aid at least.

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

We don't need California to follow -- we need all the states to follow

But they tried it there:

>> California lawmakers adopted the measure last year, but Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it.

National Popular Vote, a group that supports the change, said there are legislative sponsors for the idea in 47 states. Ryan O'Donnell, a spokesman for the group, described O'Malley's decision to sign the legislation as "an open invitation" for other states to join Maryland.

But not everyone is buying into the idea. North Dakota and Montana rejected it earlier this year. Opponents say the change would hurt small rural states, where the percentage of the national vote would be even smaller than the three electoral votes they each have in the overall Electoral College. <<

Boo the **** hoo. It's supposed to be "one man one vote" not "one state one vote".
Doesn't "hurt small rural states" at all It would in fact do the same thing for them that it does everywhere else ---- reenfranchise all of their population who dissents from their states "all or nothing" EV farce, which effectively means those voters have NO VOTE at all. And that discourages voting. That can't be more obvious.

Well discouraging voting is never a good thing.

You can't help being a stupid ************, absolutely without the EC people in small rural states might as will not even vote because a state like California would make their votes mean nothing. More people voted in more states for Donald Trump that is why we have the EC. The founders were genius in this matter. Fact

Ummmm no Dippy, the Founders didn't do it -- the 12th Amendment did it. And it did it because of slavery and the relative power (at the time) of slave states versus free states. That was when they decided a slave was three-fifths of a person .... that is, for the purpose of counting population and awarding EVs.

But of course those slaves, even three-fifths of them, had no vote anyway so the EC in effect voted for them regardless what they would have wanted.

Well guess what Dippy. That's still what it does, because if ChrisL in Massachusetts wants to vote Trump, she can't. She can cast a vote that says that, but her state ignores that and sends ALL their EVs to Clinton. Unanimously.

Guess what that means, Dippy.

It means she HAS NO VOTE. It means she can go vote Trump, vote Clinton, vote Johnson, or stay home and cast no vote at all, and all of them carry exactly the same result, because the EV system already decided that for her and there's not a damn thing in the world she can do about it.

And that discourages people like her from voting because what's the point?

And that goes for every "lock-blue" or "lock-red" state including North Dakota and California.

Any questions?


It has jack ******* squat to do with "rural states" and that argument is completely unwashable.

 

[OKTexas]

Did no one bother to go to the link, it's from 2007.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

RI and Connecticut may as well go to, no one lives there anyway

 

[RetiredGySgt]

California is set to vote on a referendum in 2019 on seceding. And it is time. The blue states are the ones with the economies and the money. The only real red state that has a respectable economy is Taxus, so let the south and a few other states make their exit and become a poor version of Czechoslovakia, which is what they already are in spirit. Then they'll have no one to whine about. Imagine that, their own redneck country that they'll have to be responsible for and nobody to ***** about on conservative radio or Faux News.

But it's time, it's clear there are just too many conservatives who can't accept anyone that is different than they are, so say buhbye and via con dios, well for them it's a fake god, but whatever.

Without the drain of having to carry the red states which are the large drain on welfare in the country the blue states will lose a huge ball and chain on their ankle. We'll ban selling or showing any movies in Fake Jesustoria and they'll only have NASCAR as a sport as all blacks will be banned from living there.

The sooner the better. The whining and bitching has just worn out it's welcome. Go have your Klan seated as the Supreme Court cons and stop whining to the rest of the world.

So when there was talk of Texas leaving as I recall you all claimed that was wrong dangerous and stupid. Now it is smart cause your person lost? LOL children.

 

[Rustic]

>> Raskin, a Democrat, said he hoped Maryland's support for the idea will start a national discussion and "kick off an insurrection among spectator states - the states that are completely bypassed and sidelined" during presidential campaigns.

"Going by the national popular vote will reawaken politics in every part of the country," Raskin said. <<​

Good idea. That's a band-aid at least.

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

We don't need California to follow -- we need all the states to follow

But they tried it there:

>> California lawmakers adopted the measure last year, but Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it.

National Popular Vote, a group that supports the change, said there are legislative sponsors for the idea in 47 states. Ryan O'Donnell, a spokesman for the group, described O'Malley's decision to sign the legislation as "an open invitation" for other states to join Maryland.

But not everyone is buying into the idea. North Dakota and Montana rejected it earlier this year. Opponents say the change would hurt small rural states, where the percentage of the national vote would be even smaller than the three electoral votes they each have in the overall Electoral College. <<

Boo the **** hoo. It's supposed to be "one man one vote" not "one state one vote".
Doesn't "hurt small rural states" at all It would in fact do the same thing for them that it does everywhere else ---- reenfranchise all of their population who dissents from their states "all or nothing" EV farce, which effectively means those voters have NO VOTE at all. And that discourages voting. That can't be more obvious.

Well discouraging voting is never a good thing.

You can't help being a stupid ************, absolutely without the EC people in small rural states might as will not even vote because a state like California would make their votes mean nothing. More people voted in more states for Donald Trump that is why we have the EC. The founders were genius in this matter. Fact

Ummmm no Dippy, the Founders didn't do it -- the 12th Amendment did it. And it did it because of slavery and the relative power (at the time) of slave states versus free states. That was when they decided a slave was three-fifths of a person .... that is, for the purpose of counting population and awarding EVs.

But of course those slaves, even three-fifths of them, had no vote anyway so the EC in effect voted for them regardless what they would have wanted.

Well guess what Dippy. That's still what it does, because if ChrisL in Massachusetts wants to vote Trump, she can't. She can cast a vote that says that, but her state ignores that and sends ALL their EVs to Clinton. Unanimously.

Guess what that means, Dippy.

It means she HAS NO VOTE. It means she can go vote Trump, vote Clinton, vote Johnson, or stay home and cast no vote at all, and all of them carry exactly the same result, because the EV system already decided that for her and there's not a damn thing in the world she can do about it.

And that discourages people like her from voting because what's the point?

Any questions?


It has jack ******* squat to do with "rural states" and that argument is completely unwashable.

By founders I mean the constitution…
You don't understand, a pure popular vote is just mob rule. We live in a republic not a shit eating democracy.
If They got rid of the electoral college and went with just the popular vote no one in small rural states would vote because their vote would mean nothing. There is more votes in the state of California than the whole flyover part of the country... fact
Basically California would have total control over flyover country with their fucked up progress views.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Now if just Ca. will follow.

Maryland sidesteps electoral college

Its just Maryland throwing a hissy fit. Gonna be a lot of that.

Maryland = Baltimore

That Turd World state is 30% black.

 

[Rustic]

 

[emilynghiem]

Didnt China offer to buy Maryland for 2.5 Million Dollars? is it really worth that?

Hey, maybe if Maryland sells out, California will follow their lead....

 

[rdean]

Could you imagine if Blue States were able to secede? We would have to build walls to keep out poor, ignorant and uneducated right wingers who can't speak understandable English and who want to take our kids minimum wage jobs. We can't let that happen.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Didnt China offer to buy Maryland for 2.5 Million Dollars? is it really worth that?

Hey, maybe if Maryland sells out, California will follow their lead....

If Oregon goes on Ebay, opening bid will be .03 cents, and thats probably where it will end,,,,,sold to a hamster !!!!!

 

[Lewdog]

Why is it wrong for the person who gets the most individual votes to be POTUS? Why should a person's vote in Vermont be worth more than a person's vote in Texas?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why is it wrong for the person who gets the most individual votes to be POTUS? Why should a person's vote in Vermont be worth more than a person's vote in Texas?

Been explained more then once it is not our fault you are incapable of independent thought or able to read.