Marriage Equality Does Not Exist In Any State

[guno]

"Marriage Equality" defined: the ability of adults to marry whom they wish.

Polygamists and incest adults cannot be married to the ones they want to be and consent to be with. Ergo, there is no marriage equality in any state.

What there is, is a quasi-legal status of JUST gay marriage where the Court's Five decided that JUST this majority-repugnant sexual lifestyle gets special class protections. Using the 14th Amendment, ironically. The 14th Amendment says "no discrimination". So, either gay marriage in Obergefell was not and cannot be legal using the 14th rationale, or ALL adults may marry whomever they want of any lifestyle arrangement.

The arguments cast out for consumption by the LGBT blogger machine is "polygamists etc. can fight for their own rights to marry. Gay is a separate issue".

My rebuttal: According to the 14th there can be no adults left out of lifestyle rights (even when repugnant) when it comes to equality.

Discuss.

On a related note: Italians not keen on legalizing gay unions. They had an enormous rally in Rome a week ago that was against gay unions, but the press more or less chose not to cover it.

Oh, the gay union proposal will still likely pass according to various sources, but the “righteous” (imo) opposition is fervent in their beliefs as well. I really like how one of the organizers put it so succinctly. Funny, but poignant.

“A man and a woman form a marriage,” Gandolfini said. “The others are alchemy.”


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Thousands protest Italy plan to permit same-sex unions

By Associated Press January 30, 2016

ROME — Tens of thousands of people opposed to gay rights rallied Saturday in Rome’s Circus Maximus against legislation that would permit civil unions for same-sex couples and grant them legal recognition as families. (EDIT: Tens of thousands? The estimates are 300,000 minimum to well over one million.)

Massimo Gandolfini, organizer of Saturday’s “Family Day” protest, told the crowd that the legislation now in the Senate needs to be defeated.

“A man and a woman form a marriage,” Gandolfini said. “The others are alchemy.”

The coalition government of Premier Matteo Renzi is pushing for the legislation granting civil unions, including the right of inheritance, to receive the pension of a deceased partner, or to make medical decisions about a partner in hospital. But the provision to permit homosexuals to adopt the biological children of their partner is the most hotly contested, even within the coalition.

Cabinet ministers expressed dissent during the rally.

Interior Minister Angelino Alfano sent his support to the protesters via a Twitter message. Environment Minister Gian Luca Galletti attended the protest, saying he supported the civil unions but not the so-called “step-child adoption” clause…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/thousands-protest-italy-plan-to-permit-gay-unions-adoptions/2016/01/30/78f97864-c75c-11e5-b933-31c93021392a_story.html

Marriages aren't lead that someone is transmuting into gold. I call 'Rumpelstiltskin' on that argument.

That quote was intended for those who have a greater ability to comprehend the use of various terms.

His quote was brilliant, and spot on.

His quote was inaccurate. And his perspective, gradually winding down.

I was intending this report for those who are followers of the Judeo-Christian G-d, only.

So not to worry, you and I have opposite opinions on life. Not your fault.

Judeo-Christian G-d

There’s No Such Thing as Judeo-Christian Values

The label “Judeo-Christian” tends to assume, at the expense of Judaism, that Christians and Jews believe essentially the same things.

Incidentally, we have more in common with Muslims than we do with Christians; Jewish law permits Jews to enter a mosque… but not a church.

To insist that we have some kind of bond with religious Christians because of similar core values, is to propagate a terrible lie. Christians who base their views on what they call the Old Testament, don’t view Mosaic law as an abiding legal text. The Church has abolished Torah law as part of its attempt to abolish the very idea of Jewish nationhood.



There’s No Such Thing as Judeo-Christian Values

it is a way that the goyim try to insinuate themselves and try connect themselves to Judaism

 

[ScienceRocks]

How is allowing anyone to marry who they wish not "liberterian"/or conservative(small government).

Why shouldn't a man be allowed to be a woman? Isn't it his life?

 

[Katzndogz]

Eliminate marriage. Then there's no marriage equality.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Of course there is equality. Any man can marry the woman of his choice; Any woman can marry the man of her choice. That other stuff is known as "perversion".

And this is known as ignorance, hate, bigotry, and stupidity.

 

[Silhouette]

You haven't answered the question yet...."..tell the readers here how polygamy is illegal...using citations to the 14th Amendment in your answer." Also you can use citations from Obergefell added to your citations from the 14th.

Polygamy is still illegal because the laws still stand

Neither Obergefell or Loving addressed polygamous marriages because neither case was in regards to polygamous marriage.

If you want to challenge the marriage law so you can marry 3 men- you can do what the Lovings and the Obergefell did- you can go to court saying your rights are being violated. You have the right to challenge the law in court- you don't have the right to win.

The question remains unanswered. You still have not cited the 14th telling us how just some deviant sex behaviors can command states to marry them but not others. You're aware of what equality means I take it? Consenting adults? Remember all your arguments in court?

There is no marriage equality. If a state can say "no" to polygamy because it is a behavior the majority finds repugnant and, therefore subject to being denied marrige, then the 14th tells us states can and must also be able to say no to any other behavior the majority finds repugnant. Anything less is discriminatory and discrimination isn't allowed in the 14th..

 

[Skylar]

You haven't answered the question yet...."..tell the readers here how polygamy is illegal...using citations to the 14th Amendment in your answer." Also you can use citations from Obergefell added to your citations from the 14th.

Polygamy is still illegal because the laws still stand

Neither Obergefell or Loving addressed polygamous marriages because neither case was in regards to polygamous marriage.

If you want to challenge the marriage law so you can marry 3 men- you can do what the Lovings and the Obergefell did- you can go to court saying your rights are being violated. You have the right to challenge the law in court- you don't have the right to win.

The question remains unanswered. You still have not cited the 14th telling us how just some deviant sex behaviors can command states to marry them but not others. You're aware of what equality means I take it? Consenting adults? Remember all your arguments in court?

Still demanding we 'prove your pseudo-legal batshit wrong'?

When are you going to prove it right? Remember, same sex marriage is still legal in 50 of 50 States. And polygamy is still illegal in 50 of 50 States. So you'll need to prove that the law is wrong and you are right.

Please do so now.

 

[Skylar]

Ultimately this was a suicide. Suicide is the leading cause of death among gay perverts. Normal people are either glad or don't care when a perv kills themselves.

Says the poor soul who knows jack shit about the law. He was convicted TWICE for killing this man. Once for manslaughter, once for murder. He's imprisoned for life.

Ultimately, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. As your ridiculous equivalence of consensual sex between adults and murder/cannibalism demonstrates elegantly.

 

[Katzndogz]

Ultimately this was a suicide. Suicide is the leading cause of death among gay perverts. Normal people are either glad or don't care when a perv kills themselves.

Says the poor soul who knows jack shit about the law. He was convicted TWICE for killing this man. Once for manslaughter, once for murder. He's imprisoned for life.

Ultimately, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. As your ridiculous equivalence of consensual sex between adults and murder/cannibalism demonstrates elegantly.

Sorry but what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is still none of your business. What a prude. Telling gay guys what kind of sex you will permit them to have. Do you sniff assholes too.

 

[Skylar]

Ultimately this was a suicide. Suicide is the leading cause of death among gay perverts. Normal people are either glad or don't care when a perv kills themselves.

Says the poor soul who knows jack shit about the law. He was convicted TWICE for killing this man. Once for manslaughter, once for murder. He's imprisoned for life.

Ultimately, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. As your ridiculous equivalence of consensual sex between adults and murder/cannibalism demonstrates elegantly.

Sorry but what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is still none of your business. What a prude. Telling gay guys what kind of sex you will permit them to have. Do you sniff assholes too.

Consensual sex and murder/cannibalism aren't the same thing.

You can't tell the difference, equating them.

A rational person could easily tell the difference. Your argument breaks in the same place each time, every time.

 

[Silhouette]

Ultimately this was a suicide. Suicide is the leading cause of death among gay perverts. Normal people are either glad or don't care when a perv kills themselves.

Says the poor soul who knows jack shit about the law. He was convicted TWICE for killing this man. Once for manslaughter, once for murder. He's imprisoned for life.

Ultimately, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. As your ridiculous equivalence of consensual sex between adults and murder/cannibalism demonstrates elegantly.

Sorry but what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is still none of your business. What a prude. Telling gay guys what kind of sex you will permit them to have. Do you sniff assholes too.

Yes, because Skylar and five Justices have all picked their very very narrow favorite type of deviant sex to allow to strip kids of either a mother or father for life...but no other types need apply...they'll be denied...or will they? SCOTUS has no choice but to allow any number of combinations of consenting adults to marry...

Equality is equality. The (incorrectly interpreted)14th doesn't play favorites. You can't cite it in one breath to approve gay while deny polygamy in the same sentence..

 

[Skylar]

Ultimately this was a suicide. Suicide is the leading cause of death among gay perverts. Normal people are either glad or don't care when a perv kills themselves.

Says the poor soul who knows jack shit about the law. He was convicted TWICE for killing this man. Once for manslaughter, once for murder. He's imprisoned for life.

Ultimately, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. As your ridiculous equivalence of consensual sex between adults and murder/cannibalism demonstrates elegantly.

Sorry but what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is still none of your business. What a prude. Telling gay guys what kind of sex you will permit them to have. Do you sniff assholes too.

Yes, because Skylar and five Justices have all picked their very very narrow favorite type of deviant sex to allow to strip kids of either a mother or father for life...but no other types need apply...they'll be denied...or will they? SCOTUS has no choice but to allow any number of combinations of consenting adults to marry...

Equality is equality. The (incorrectly interpreted)14th doesn't play favorites. You can't cite it in one breath to approve gay while deny polygamy in the same sentence..

There's nothing illegal about consensual sex. There's something quite illegal about murder. That you can't tell the difference is gloriously irrelevant to the way our law works. As we can discern the difference.

You insist that the Obergefell ruling legalizizes polygamy. Show me the quote in the ruling that does this. Because polygamy is still illegal in every state. How do you reconcile your pseudo-legal assumptions with reality contradicting you explicitly and 50 of 50 times?