Mark Meadows’s irrelevant memories about whether Trump declassified documents: The President declassified the documents by taking the documents.

[Marener]

Yes she did

She didn’t. You’re confused.

Some of them are.

They aren’t.

The person who has possession of the tapes is supposed to know the regulations, moron

Who is that?

 

[Faun]

They were classified the second they were created, dumbass. If the president has a meeting with a foreign leader where they discuss security issues, that discussion is classified automatically

Fucking moron, the recordings weren't with foreign leaders. They were with a historian who was documenting Clinton's presidency.

 

[bripat9643]

She didn’t. You’re confused.

I don't know what this refers to,

They aren’t.

I don't know what this refers to,

Who is that?

Prove it.

 

[Faun]

It says that there was no corruption problem with Ukraine, moron. If they thought Shokin was corrupt, wouldn't they mention it?

The claim that the "international community" wanted Ukraine to ditch Shokin doesn't pass the laugh test. Doesn't the "international community" include the United States?

Just admit that your claim is horseshit. The U.S. government certainly didn't want Shokin fired. That's a Biden lie, and it's a lie you repeated. You and Biden are both liars.

Fucking moron, the U.S. also wanted him fired...

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

 

[Marener]

I don't know what this refers to,

Clinton didn’t have satellite photos on her laptop. They may have made a reference to something in a satellite photo, but there weren’t any photos.

I don't know what this refers to,

Foreign leaders are tape recorded. It’s a trust thing. No one wants the potential to have these things leaked.

Prove it.

Clinton possessed the tapes and would have had to determine if they are or aren’t classified. He never did. Before something is classified, someone has to look at it and determine if it meets any of the guidelines. This occurs at the originator level. The tapes were never classified. They never needed to be declassified.

 

[bripat9643]

Fucking moron, the U.S. also wanted him fired...

Prosecutors In Ukraine Slammed

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

www.rferl.org

Emails from a U.S. ambassador show otherwise, you fucking moron . Show us some document written before Shokin was fired that proves that any government official wanted Shokin fired.

 

[Marener]

Show us some document written before Shokin was fired that proves that any government official wanted Shokin fired.

Dude, that’s exactly what he did! Read the link dip shit.

 

[bripat9643]

Clinton didn’t have satellite photos on her laptop. They may have made a reference to something in a satellite photo, but there weren’t any photos.


Foreign leaders are tape recorded. It’s a trust thing. No one wants the potential to have these things leaked.

Clinton possessed the tapes and would have had to determine if they are or aren’t classified. He never did. Before something is classified, someone has to look at it and determine if it meets any of the guidelines. This occurs at the originator level. The tapes were never classified. They never needed to be declassified.

Hillary Clinton emails compromised spy satellite data on North Korean nukes

One of the most serious potential breaches of national security identified so far by the intelligence community inside Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private emails involves the relaying of classified information concerning the movement of North Korean nuclear assets, which was obtained from spy...

www.washingtontimes.com

One of the most serious potential breaches of national security identified so far by the intelligence community inside Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private emails involves the relaying of classified information concerning the movement of North Korean nuclear assets, which was obtained from spy satellites.​

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Multiple intelligence sources who spoke to The Washington Times, solely on the condition of anonymity, said concerns about the movement of the North Korean information through Mrs. Clinton’s unsecured server are twofold.​

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First, spy satellite information is frequently classified at the top-secret level and handled within a special compartment called Talent-Keyhole. This means it is one of the most sensitive forms of intelligence gathered by the U.S.​

 

[bripat9643]

Dude, that’s exactly what he did! Read the link dip shit.

No he didn't.

 

[Marener]

Hillary Clinton emails compromised spy satellite data on North Korean nukes

One of the most serious potential breaches of national security identified so far by the intelligence community inside Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private emails involves the relaying of classified information concerning the movement of North Korean nuclear assets, which was obtained from spy...

www.washingtontimes.com

One of the most serious potential breaches of national security identified so far by the intelligence community inside Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private emails involves the relaying of classified information concerning the movement of North Korean nuclear assets, which was obtained from spy satellites.​

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Multiple intelligence sources who spoke to The Washington Times, solely on the condition of anonymity, said concerns about the movement of the North Korean information through Mrs. Clinton’s unsecured server are twofold.​

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First, spy satellite information is frequently classified at the top-secret level and handled within a special compartment called Talent-Keyhole. This means it is one of the most sensitive forms of intelligence gathered by the U.S.​

Notice how nothing in that article says she had photos.

You jumped to conclusions.

 

[Marener]

No he didn't.

Does this sound like a good thing to you?

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

Western governments supporting Ukraine’s reform agenda have repeatedly stressed the need for Kyiv to tackle endemic corruption. But the comments by Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were unusually blunt for a U.S. official speaking before the public.

Pyatt told a group of business executives and investors in Odesa that the Prosecutor-General’s Office is an “obstacle” to anticorruption reforms by failing to “successfully fight internal corruption."

“Rather than supporting Ukraine’s reforms and working to root out corruption, corrupt actors within the Prosecutor-General’s Office are making things worse by openly and aggressively undermining reform,” Pyatt said in the September 24 speech.

 

[bripat9643]

Notice how nothing in that article says she had photos.

You jumped to conclusions.

What do you imagine the term "satellite data" means? Eh, you fucking moron?

 

[bripat9643]

Does this sound like a good thing to you?

The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine has accused the country’s Prosecutor-General’s Office of obstructing efforts to combat corruption and shielding its own employees from graft investigations.

Western governments supporting Ukraine’s reform agenda have repeatedly stressed the need for Kyiv to tackle endemic corruption. But the comments by Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt were unusually blunt for a U.S. official speaking before the public.

Pyatt told a group of business executives and investors in Odesa that the Prosecutor-General’s Office is an “obstacle” to anticorruption reforms by failing to “successfully fight internal corruption."

“Rather than supporting Ukraine’s reforms and working to root out corruption, corrupt actors within the Prosecutor-General’s Office are making things worse by openly and aggressively undermining reform,” Pyatt said in the September 24 speech.

The same state department said the following:

“We have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government,” gushed the State Department’s Ukraine point person Victoria Nuland to Shokin in summer 2015. ​

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“Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee” of aid money, noted another federal functionary that October. ​

 

[Skylar]

Leftists are still blubbering about supposedly "classified documents" that Trump took with him when he left the White House. They claim to support Law and Order, but the truth is they don't even know the law.​

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Mark Meadows’s irrelevant memories about whether Trump declassified documents​

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Leftists are excited. They’ve got him now because Mark Meadows, Trump’s former chief of staff, doesn’t recall Trump declassifying the documents later seized at Mar-a-Lago. In fact, that’s a big “who cares?”. Trump didn’t need to follow bureaucratic requirements to declassify anything. As one with plenary power over national security under the Constitution, merely by taking them with him, he declassified them.​

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ABC News' story :​

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Trump is correct. He declassified the documents by taking the documents. That’s all he needed to do.​

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Let me explain.​

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National security questions belong solely to the president. That’s not me saying that; that’s the Supreme Court saying that:​

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Two problems.

First, Trump admitted in two different recordings that he didn't declassify the docs.

Second, Trump is charged with Willfully Retaining National Defense Information. It doesn't matter if the documents were classified or declassified. It matters that they contained National Defense Information and Trump refused to return them.

Third, there's strong, strong evidence that Trump committed mulutiple acts of obstruction in furtherance of these crimes, including trying to compel his lawyer to lie to authorities, trying to hide documents, witness tampering, conspiracy, and trying to destroy evidence.

This is a layer cake of fucked for Trump.

 

[Marener]

What do you imagine the term "satellite data" means? Eh, you fucking moron?

Any information obtained by satellites.

If I say that satellites picked up troop movements in North Korea, they is satellite data.

It doesn’t immediately mean photos. If they had photos, they would have said photos. No one calls photos “data”. They call them photos.

 

[Marener]

The same state department said the following:

“We have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government,” gushed the State Department’s Ukraine point person Victoria Nuland to Shokin in summer 2015. ​

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“Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee” of aid money, noted another federal functionary that October. ​

Yeah, notice how none of that says anything about Shokin. It always refers to “your government”. It never refers to the prosecutor general.

That’s because the government was trying to reform and they wanted Shokin to be a part of it, but he didn’t.

 

[bripat9643]

Two problems.

First, Trump admitted in two different recordings that he didn't declassify the docs.

Second, Trump is charged with Willfully Retaining National Defense Information. It doesn't matter if the documents were classified or declassified. It matters that they contained National Defense Information and Trump refused to return them.

Trump is allowed to retain National Defense information.

But Farrell says the ruling in this specific case from 2012 exonerates Trump from any alleged wrongdoing.​

“Amy Berman Jackson, the judge presiding on that case, said a couple of very important things,” said Farrell. “That the president had an absolute, unreviewable right to take any records or documents that he wants when he leaves office. “​

“No one can come back and second guess or double think or ask questions about what the president elects to take with him,” Farrell continued.​

Third, there's strong, strong evidence that Trump committed mulutiple acts of obstruction in furtherance of these crimes, including trying to compel his lawyer to lie to authorities, trying to hide documents, witness tampering, conspiracy, and trying to destroy evidence.

This is a layer cake of fucked for Trump.

Trump didn't commit any crimes, so how could he obstruct anything? None of what you describe occurred. They are the products of hysteria.

 

[bripat9643]

Any information obtained by satellites.

That means photos. What kind of data do you imagine they can obtain with satalites?

If I say that satellites picked up troop movements in North Korea, they is satellite data.

The way they pick up troop movements is with photos, moron.

It doesn’t immediately mean photos. If they had photos, they would have said photos. No one calls photos “data”. They call them photos.

Photos are often called data, you fucking moron.

 

[Skylar]

Trump is allowed to retain National Defense information.

Nope. No where in any law does it say that citizen Trump is allowed to retain National Defense information.

You're offering us meaningless, pseudo-legal gibberish, pulled sideways out of your ass.

As you do.

But Farrell says the ruling in this specific case from 2012 exonerates Trump from any alleged wrongdoing.

The Clinton v. Judicial Watch case? These weren't national security docs. These were personal interviews with an author for book.

No where in the 2012 ruling that Clinton had the authority to retain national defense information, classified or otherwise after he left office.

Trump didn't commit any crimes, so how could he obstruct anything? None of what you describe occurred. They are the products of hysteria.

First, there's strong evidence that he committed dozens and dozens of serious felonies. Says who? The grand juries.

Second, how could he obstruct anything? By lying to authorities (a crime), destroying evidence (a crime), trying to compel others to lie and destroy evidence (a crime).

 

[Marener]

That means photos. What kind of data do you imagine they can obtain with satalites?


The way they pick up troop movements is with photos, moron.

Photos are often called data, you fucking moron.

It appears everything I said went over your head. Photos are not often called data, they’re called photos.

Information obtained from those photos is called data.