Marijuana and the definition of conservative

[woodwork201]

Father Government forces me to invest in you....why wouldn’t I care about how my investments perform?

You don't invest in me. I'm 100% certain that I make far more than you and pay my own way. No one with your intellect could hope to survive in the world where I live and work. And I don't take any illegal drugs and I don't use pot even though I could legally do so in my state - I have a very high paying job and my employer would fire me on the spot so I'm completely drug free.

 

[EMH]

How does making marijuana illegal protect our most productive, law-abiding citizens? ...

Legal made marijuana kills their children.

So does snow skiing and swimming pools; do we make those illegal, too? In fact, so does high-school football. Let's ban that. ...

You have absolutelly not any idea what you try to speak about, isn't it? That's what marijuana is doing with you.

• Impaired memory.
• Problems with thinking and problem-solving.
• Lung inflammation, infection, and chronic pulmonary issues.
• Heart attack.
• Severe nausea and vomiting.
• Depression and anxiety.
• Psychotic features, such as delusions and hallucinations.
• Dependence and withdrawal symptoms.
• Addiction.

You have only one chance: Fight! Stop it! Now! Do not use drugs! Never! Under no circumstances!

Amazing how Michael phelps won all those gold medals....


The pot haters and the global warmers are very much alike....

Filled with fear and falsehoods to be parroted over and over...

The psych profession must have a term for it. When a moron is filled with fear over lies, said moron spazzes and endlessly parrots the lies, denying hard proof the lies are lies.....

Delusional sub human marijuana/co2 hating syndrome

???

 

[EMH]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

nixon was the president who changed marijuana from a misdemeanor to being a class one drug and a felony. The reason he did that was protesters. People were protesting the Vietnam war and nixon on the White House grounds. The police couldn't stop them but nixon noticed that they were smoking pot. So to be able to arrest and remove them, he had his AG reclassify marijuana to a class one drug.

Carter tried to make it legal for medical purposes.

Then reagan came along. He brought us the war on drugs. He even went so far as to have the government spray paraquat on marijuana to poison Americans who smoked it. reagan and bush the first changed the laws to zero tolerance so someone busted with a joint automatically spent a decade in prison.

Clinton did nothing to change the policies that reagan and bush the first implemented.

Meanwhile in the Clinton years west coast states voted to legalize marijuana for medical purposes.

The bush boy refused to recognize state laws for medical marijuana and continued to put people in prison for it.

Obama changed the policy to that the federal government won't bust people as long as they stay within state laws and stopped the feds from busting people at the airport who had marijuana on them as long as they are in states it's legal and are going to state where it's legal.

It has been conservatives who have brought us the ridiculous laws on marijuana.

You may not be like most conservatives and republicans. I'm hoping that republicans and conservatives are starting to see the war on marijuana is pointless and legalizing it will be financially beneficial.

Agreed except you are giving "woke" bullshit about homO

Search for

Obama war on pot

And read the rolling stone article.

Bigot holder saw reefer as a means to pack prisons with white medicinal types, and anti white bigotry took over and went into overdrive...

Packing prisons with non violent state legal white people - what "conservatives" like broke loser cheered....

 

[Harry Dresden]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Neat. It's funny how liberals have usually been more open to marijuana legalization.

What about the right to marry the one you love without the government telling you that it's icky? Traditionally where have conservatives stood on that?

What about the right to marry the one you love without the government telling you that it's icky?
that was voted down twice in California.....and yes lots of liberals voted it down......

Over a decade ago. Gay marriage is supported by most Californians.

Maybe try living in the here and now.

is it?.....how long have you lived there?.....

If you're referring to California I have a lot of friends and family there but anecdotal stories aren't going to get you anywhere.

It's long been known that gay marriage has approval in California, even way back in 2013.

Poll Finds Record Support for Same-Sex Marriage in California

The same week the Obama administration filed a brief urging the Supreme Court to strike down California’s ban on same-sex marriage, a new Field Poll was r…

fivethirtyeight.com

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Not exactly shocking when you consider most of the country is just fine with gay marriage.

yea lots of friends....how many?....so you are just going by some ones opinion that you know......we were told back during those propositions that the state democrats were for gay marriage back then,gee look what happened with those propositions.......you are just another who lives many miles away going by what someone tells you about California....there are lots of Mexicans in California,especially the men, who are not that comfortable with gays....S.Cal is very different than N.Cal....and please dont tell me that someone took a poll of the Hispanics in S.Cal....you get their true attitudes by actually knowing many....

I grew up there, idiot.

Why would someone just take a poll of Hispanics when looking for the totality of public opinion on gay marriage? No wonder you don't trust polls, you don't even understand them.

Gay marriage has popular support in California and across the country, deal with it.

who cares if you grew up there ....when did you leave and was it northern or southern cal.....and no i trust what i see and hear with those i live among over some dumbass poll...and after 50 years living in the middle of Hispanics.....the men dont care for "maricons"....and i voted for gay marriage twice....it aint my fault if your wonderful party did not do the same back then....so deal with that asswipe....

 

[zaangalewa]

How does making marijuana illegal protect our most productive, law-abiding citizens? ...

Legal made marijuana kills their children.

So does snow skiing and swimming pools; do we make those illegal, too? In fact, so does high-school football. Let's ban that. ...

You have absolutelly not any idea what you try to speak about, isn't it? That's what marijuana is doing with you.

• Impaired memory.
• Problems with thinking and problem-solving.
• Lung inflammation, infection, and chronic pulmonary issues.
• Heart attack.
• Severe nausea and vomiting.
• Depression and anxiety.
• Psychotic features, such as delusions and hallucinations.
• Dependence and withdrawal symptoms.
• Addiction.

You have only one chance: Fight! Stop it! Now! Do not use drugs! Never! Under no circumstances!

Amazing how Michael phelps won all those gold medals....

Michael Phelps? You think Michael Phelbs never learned from the mistakes he made when he was young boy and drove drunken car and made an idiotic photo with a so called "bong"?

The pot haters and the global warmers are very much alike....

Sure. Realists who don't run away in front of real problems.

Filled with fear and falsehoods to be parroted over and over...

The psych profession must have a term for it. When a moron is filled with fear over lies, said moron spazzes and endlessly parrots the lies, denying hard proof the lies are lies.....

Delusional sub human marijuana/co2 hating syndrome

???

Who not fears drugs also not not fears hell. Hell is the place where everyone is happy - as long as the devil gives drugs for free.

 

[kaz]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

 

[HappyJoy]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Neat. It's funny how liberals have usually been more open to marijuana legalization.

What about the right to marry the one you love without the government telling you that it's icky? Traditionally where have conservatives stood on that?

What about the right to marry the one you love without the government telling you that it's icky?
that was voted down twice in California.....and yes lots of liberals voted it down......

Over a decade ago. Gay marriage is supported by most Californians.

Maybe try living in the here and now.

is it?.....how long have you lived there?.....

If you're referring to California I have a lot of friends and family there but anecdotal stories aren't going to get you anywhere.

It's long been known that gay marriage has approval in California, even way back in 2013.

Poll Finds Record Support for Same-Sex Marriage in California

The same week the Obama administration filed a brief urging the Supreme Court to strike down California’s ban on same-sex marriage, a new Field Poll was r…

fivethirtyeight.com

View attachment 510880

Not exactly shocking when you consider most of the country is just fine with gay marriage.

yea lots of friends....how many?....so you are just going by some ones opinion that you know......we were told back during those propositions that the state democrats were for gay marriage back then,gee look what happened with those propositions.......you are just another who lives many miles away going by what someone tells you about California....there are lots of Mexicans in California,especially the men, who are not that comfortable with gays....S.Cal is very different than N.Cal....and please dont tell me that someone took a poll of the Hispanics in S.Cal....you get their true attitudes by actually knowing many....

I grew up there, idiot.

Why would someone just take a poll of Hispanics when looking for the totality of public opinion on gay marriage? No wonder you don't trust polls, you don't even understand them.

Gay marriage has popular support in California and across the country, deal with it.

who cares if you grew up there ....when did you leave and was it northern or southern cal.....and no i trust what i see and hear with those i live among over some dumbass poll...and after 50 years living in the middle of Hispanics.....the men dont care for "maricons"....and i voted for gay marriage twice....it aint my fault if your wonderful party did not do the same back then....so deal with that asswipe....

Those "you live among" is not really an accurate way to determine the views of an entire state, that's really flawed actually.

Anyway, sorry Democrats have always been more in favor of gay marriage than the wingnuts. Just look at this board as an example.

 

[EMH]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

 

[EMH]

How does making marijuana illegal protect our most productive, law-abiding citizens? ...

Legal made marijuana kills their children.

So does snow skiing and swimming pools; do we make those illegal, too? In fact, so does high-school football. Let's ban that. ...

You have absolutelly not any idea what you try to speak about, isn't it? That's what marijuana is doing with you.

• Impaired memory.
• Problems with thinking and problem-solving.
• Lung inflammation, infection, and chronic pulmonary issues.
• Heart attack.
• Severe nausea and vomiting.
• Depression and anxiety.
• Psychotic features, such as delusions and hallucinations.
• Dependence and withdrawal symptoms.
• Addiction.

You have only one chance: Fight! Stop it! Now! Do not use drugs! Never! Under no circumstances!

Amazing how Michael phelps won all those gold medals....

Michael Phelps? You think Michael Phelbs never learned from the mistakes he made when he was young boy and drove drunken car and made an idiotic photo with a so called "bong"?

The pot haters and the global warmers are very much alike....

Sure. Realists who don't run away in front of real problems.

Filled with fear and falsehoods to be parroted over and over...

The psych profession must have a term for it. When a moron is filled with fear over lies, said moron spazzes and endlessly parrots the lies, denying hard proof the lies are lies.....

Delusional sub human marijuana/co2 hating syndrome

???

Who not fears drugs also not not fears hell. Hell is the place where everyone is happy - as long as the devil gives drugs for free.

Hell gives drugs for free = w and the "conservative" post 1998 republicans socializing senior drugs so you can get your opium OxyContin for free!!

Parroting church and media = no truth in birdbrain

 

[HappyJoy]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and his drug war.

 

[EMH]

Ronald reagan's drug war had enormous support from big government

Reagan DEMOCRATS

Including your hero

Ku klux klan enchanted cyclops

Dem senate majority leader

The KKKing of pork Robert Byrd

Mentor and best buddy of traitor Joe, another drug war supporter

 

[kaz]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

As a libertarian, I certainly agree with your view. The idea that it's "conservative" for government to make decisions over our bodies is a total contradiction to me.

I do not agree with you making up your own definitions for existing terms though

 

[kaz]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and his drug war.

The war on drugs was only one of Reagan's mistakes. His middle east policy was another bust. We should have stayed out of Lebanon and if we were there the State department should not have had the power to make the military decisions they made that got all those soldiers killed. Reagan called the 3 for 1 deal with Tip ONeil the biggest mistake of his presidency. It was

 

[EMH]

Carter put those troops in Lebanon.


Credit patriotic American Jew Caspar weinberger for not joining with Israel's false flag hate hoax designed to bait us into war with hezbollah.

Had W, LBJ, or Biden been president, we would have hit Hezbollah.....

 

[HappyJoy]

Ronald reagan's drug war had enormous support from big government

Reagan DEMOCRATS

Including your hero

Ku klux klan enchanted cyclops

Dem senate majority leader

The KKKing of pork Robert Byrd

Mentor and best buddy of traitor Joe, another drug war supporter

Ahh, do you really hate it when it's pointed out that it was Reagan's drug war? You keep telling us about how conservatives before 1998 or whatever were going to legalize weed, they didn't. They mostly went in the other direction.

Biden on the other hand was part of an administration that eased enforcement of federal marijuana laws. What did Trump do?

Trump administration drops Obama-era easing of marijuana prosecutions

The U.S. Justice Department on Thursday rescinded an Obama administration policy that had eased enforcement of federal marijuana laws in states that legalized the drug, instead giving federal prosecutors wide latitude to pursue criminal charges.

www.reuters.com

Which state first legalized recreational marijuana? It must have been a rock solid conservative one, right? Nope.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

The definition of conservative is to be reactionary and authoritarian, to manifest an unwarranted fear of positive, beneficial change, to oppose diversity and inclusion, and to compel conformity and punish dissent through force of law.

To be conservatives is to seek more government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty:

To deny women their right to privacy.

To violate the due process rights of immigrants.

To violate the equal protection rights of gay and transgender Americans.

To violate the voting rights of minority Americans.

And although there’s no ‘right’ to possess or use marijuana, the authoritarian right nonetheless seeks to criminalize both to compel conformity and punish dissent through force of law.

 

[HappyJoy]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and his drug war.

The war on drugs was only one of Reagan's mistakes. His middle east policy was another bust. We should have stayed out of Lebanon and if we were there the State department should not have had the power to make the military decisions they made that got all those soldiers killed. Reagan called the 3 for 1 deal with Tip ONeil the biggest mistake of his presidency. It was

Neat. Thanks for disagreeing with the EMH about Reagan's drug war.

 

[kaz]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and his drug war.

The war on drugs was only one of Reagan's mistakes. His middle east policy was another bust. We should have stayed out of Lebanon and if we were there the State department should not have had the power to make the military decisions they made that got all those soldiers killed. Reagan called the 3 for 1 deal with Tip ONeil the biggest mistake of his presidency. It was

Neat. Thanks for disagreeing with the EMH about Reagan's drug war.

Actually I agreed with EMH. He said he was against the war on drugs. So am I.

He's probably like me and not you in that he doesn't do them

 

[Harry Dresden]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Neat. It's funny how liberals have usually been more open to marijuana legalization.

What about the right to marry the one you love without the government telling you that it's icky? Traditionally where have conservatives stood on that?

What about the right to marry the one you love without the government telling you that it's icky?
that was voted down twice in California.....and yes lots of liberals voted it down......

Over a decade ago. Gay marriage is supported by most Californians.

Maybe try living in the here and now.

is it?.....how long have you lived there?.....

If you're referring to California I have a lot of friends and family there but anecdotal stories aren't going to get you anywhere.

It's long been known that gay marriage has approval in California, even way back in 2013.

Poll Finds Record Support for Same-Sex Marriage in California

The same week the Obama administration filed a brief urging the Supreme Court to strike down California’s ban on same-sex marriage, a new Field Poll was r…

fivethirtyeight.com

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Not exactly shocking when you consider most of the country is just fine with gay marriage.

yea lots of friends....how many?....so you are just going by some ones opinion that you know......we were told back during those propositions that the state democrats were for gay marriage back then,gee look what happened with those propositions.......you are just another who lives many miles away going by what someone tells you about California....there are lots of Mexicans in California,especially the men, who are not that comfortable with gays....S.Cal is very different than N.Cal....and please dont tell me that someone took a poll of the Hispanics in S.Cal....you get their true attitudes by actually knowing many....

I grew up there, idiot.

Why would someone just take a poll of Hispanics when looking for the totality of public opinion on gay marriage? No wonder you don't trust polls, you don't even understand them.

Gay marriage has popular support in California and across the country, deal with it.

who cares if you grew up there ....when did you leave and was it northern or southern cal.....and no i trust what i see and hear with those i live among over some dumbass poll...and after 50 years living in the middle of Hispanics.....the men dont care for "maricons"....and i voted for gay marriage twice....it aint my fault if your wonderful party did not do the same back then....so deal with that asswipe....

Those "you live among" is not really an accurate way to determine the views of an entire state, that's really flawed actually.

Anyway, sorry Democrats have always been more in favor of gay marriage than the wingnuts. Just look at this board as an example.

not for S.Cal it aint....its pretty accurate.....N.Cal is like a different state....

 

[HappyJoy]

A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....

Fiscal conservatism is finanical restraint

Social conservatism refers to morality laws

You're confusing them. You can be both or one and not the other

"Social conservatism" is not conservative at all and should be called social non-conservatism because there is no conserving of the powers of big government. Social non-conservatism brought us prohibition and the drug war.

Tell that to Ronald Reagan and his drug war.

The war on drugs was only one of Reagan's mistakes. His middle east policy was another bust. We should have stayed out of Lebanon and if we were there the State department should not have had the power to make the military decisions they made that got all those soldiers killed. Reagan called the 3 for 1 deal with Tip ONeil the biggest mistake of his presidency. It was

Neat. Thanks for disagreeing with the EMH about Reagan's drug war.

Actually I agreed with EMH. He said he was against the war on drugs. So am I.

He's probably like me and not you in that he doesn't do them

Eh, occasionally, not really my thing not that it matters. But EMH's argument is that conservatives are the champions of legalization and that for the most part does not bear out.