Margaret thatcher died

[Uncensored2008]

that is not a cite of her saying it, just someone else claiming she did.

do you have an actual cite and quote?

The Communist **** thinks he's being clever. No claim that Mandela was a terrorist, but that his ANC was a terrorist group - which it was. Mandela was in prison and the ANC was under the rule of Winnie. It was as brutal as any IRA or Al Qaeda cell. Murdering Afrikaner and Zulu alike.

Thatcher spoke the truth - which is why piles of shit like Synthia hate her.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Margaret Thatcher, staunch Pinochet supporter and friend, dies

The ‘Iron Lady’ maintained a close relationship with the Chilean dictator following his 17-year reign.

Margaret Thatcher, the “Iron Lady” of Britain who adamantly defended and praised her friend, former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet for “bringing democracy to Chile,” died following a stroke on Monday. She was 87.

And she was right. Chile is the most vibrant and stable economy in South America. Due to Pinochet.

Only to the 1% transnational corporations, it was a disaster to Chileans.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Only to the 1% transnational corporations, it was a disaster to Chileans.

You are an idiot spewing bullshit.

You aren't even in the same galaxy as "correct."

 

[Truthseeker420]

Only to the 1% transnational corporations, it was a disaster to Chileans.

You are an idiot spewing bullshit.

You aren't even in the same galaxy as "correct."

Believe me there is no Pinochet or Friedman celebrated in Chile.

 

[boedicca]

I can't help but note that when Ted Kennedy died, after a few mean-spirited folks posted nasty comments, the thread was closed, cleansed of garbage, and then reopened for respectful comments.

And the volume and the nature of the inappropriate posts were not nearly as egregious as what has been displayed here by the hateful moonbats.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Believe me there is no Pinochet or Friedman celebrated in Chile.

LOL

Is that what your masters at DailyKOS told you that you think?

 

[Yurt]

Remember what Thatcher called Nelson Mandela a terrorist?

cite?

From 1996:

From 'terrorist' to tea with the Queen

Nelson Mandela: Once vilified by the Government, he will be acclaimed as a hero this week

what is with you lefties? that still is not a cite where she call nelson mandela a terrorist. can you try to be honest for once?

 

[Yurt]

that is not a cite of her saying it, just someone else claiming she did.

do you have an actual cite and quote?

The Communist **** thinks he's being clever. No claim that Mandela was a terrorist, but that his ANC was a terrorist group - which it was. Mandela was in prison and the ANC was under the rule of Winnie. It was as brutal as any IRA or Al Qaeda cell. Murdering Afrikaner and Zulu alike.

Thatcher spoke the truth - which is why piles of shit like Synthia hate her.

exactly

 

[Uncensored2008]

 

[blackhawk]

R.I.P iron lady you were one of a kind.

The Soviets named her that. The Rightwingers here just love it.

And your point if you have one is what?

 

[Indofred]

I was never a fan, but I'm glad for her it was quick and she didn't suffer. Got to see her in person back in the '80s.

By way of respect, she did deliver this line fairly well....

Margaret Thatcher does the Dead Parrot Sketch - YouTube

So many people will have no idea of the background to that but I laughed so much, I have to change my trousers.

Maggie at her best.
Thanks for posting it.

 

[Indofred]

No politician is close to big enough to fill those shoes.

Here's one for the haters.

If there was a party in celebration of your mother's death, would you like it?
If not, why is it ok for someone else's mother?

 

[boedicca]

I was never a fan, but I'm glad for her it was quick and she didn't suffer. Got to see her in person back in the '80s.

By way of respect, she did deliver this line fairly well....

Margaret Thatcher does the Dead Parrot Sketch - YouTube

That is awesome!

 

[Stephanie]

RIP Margaret Thatcher..

You were the Iron Lady and a great one at that

 

[Political Junky]

Believe me there is no Pinochet or Friedman celebrated in Chile.

LOL

Is that what your masters at DailyKOS told you that you think?

Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte, more commonly known as Augusto Pinochet (Spanish pronunciation: [auˈɣusto pinoˈtʃet]),[note 1] (25 November 1915 – 10 December 2006) was an army general and dictator of Chile from 1973 until transferring power to a democratically elected president in 1990. He was the commander-in-chief of the Chilean army from 1973 to 1998 and president of the Government Junta of Chile from 1973 to 1981.[2] He assumed power in a coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the socialist regime of Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule a week before its 48th anniversary.
By early 1972, Pinochet was General Chief of Staff of the Army. On 23 August 1973, he was promoted to Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Army by president Allende.[3] On 11 September 1973, Pinochet joined a coup d'état, which overthrew Allende's socialist government. In December 1974 the military junta appointed Pinochet as President by a joint decree, with which Air Force General Gustavo Leigh disagreed.[4] From the beginning, the government implemented harsh measures against its political opponents.[5] According to various reports and investigations 1,200–3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 were interned, and up to 30,000 were tortured by his regime including women and children.[6][7][8]
Under the influence of the free market-oriented neoliberal Chicago Boys, the new government also implemented economic reforms, including currency stabilization, tariff cutting, opening Chile's markets to global trade, restricting labor unions, privatizing social security, and the privatization of hundreds of state-controlled industries. These policies produced what has been referred to as the "Miracle of Chile", but critics claim the government policies dramatically increased economic inequality.[9] But the devastating effect of the 1982 monetary crisis in the Chilean economy can be attributed to the Finance Minister Sergio De Castro's decision to peg Chile's currency to the U.S. dollar - to align Chile's high inflation rate with the U.S. inflation rate, but triggered a tremendous devaluation when the U.S. dollar fell, and set off a bank crisis. Economist Milton Friedman, whose ideas influenced the Chicago Boys, criticized De Castro for his decision as it distorted markets.[10] Chile has been for most of the nineties the best-performing economy in Latin America, though academics continue to dispute the legacy of Pinochet's reforms.[11]
Pinochet's 17-year regime was given a legal framework through a controversial 1980 plebiscite, which approved a new Constitution drafted by a government-appointed commission. A 1988 plebiscite (which saw 56% vote against continuing his presidency) led to democratic elections for the Presidency and Congress. After peacefully stepping down in 1990, Pinochet continued to serve as Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Army until 10 March 1998, when he retired and became a senator-for-life in accordance with the 1980 Constitution. However, Pinochet was arrested in London on 10 October 1998 in connection with numerous human rights allegations, but following a legal battle was released and returned to Chile in March 2000. In 2004, Chilean Judge Juan Guzmán Tapia ruled that Pinochet was medically fit to stand trial and placed him under house arrest.[3] By the time of his death on 10 December 2006, about 300 criminal charges were still pending against him in Chile for numerous human rights violations, tax evasion, and embezzlement during his 17-year rule and afterwards.[12] Pinochet was accused of having corruptly amassed a wealth of US$28 million or more.[13]
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Augusto Pinochet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Expat]

dont tug on supermans cape dude.

the people suffered under her and dont remember her fondly

Oi! Don't speak for me.

I'm a Left leaning female British voter (not currently, I've moved a countries since I last legally voted there). I was born end of 1980 and family lost work due to Thatcher. Can't say I hate her though. Some of the mines should have been closed, some should have been modernized. If the Union Leaders had been reasonable, something could have been worked out. Unions weren't listening to their own members let alone to the will of the nation. I blame the Union Leaders for shutting down British manufacturing. The outcome, was that Thatcher's gov made policies that hurt the working classes.

In hindsight, the choices were down to bankrupting the country or closing down Britain's manufacturing. There should have been more options, but neither side was willing to talk. Better to cut off a rotting limb than to allow it to kill the tree. Unfortunate that is came down to that. The Unions shouldn't have driven England to such desperate measures.

She hurt a lot of people. So did the Unions. Can't say I'm too fond of either of them. There's a lot more I could say, but I'll leave it there.

 

[JWBooth]

The Reaper gets us all eventually.

 

[Esmeralda]

dont tug on supermans cape dude.

the people suffered under her and dont remember her fondly

Oi! Don't speak for me.

I'm a Left leaning female British voter (not currently, I've moved a countries since I last legally voted there). I was born end of 1980 and family lost work due to Thatcher. Can't say I hate her though. Some of the mines should have been closed, some should have been modernized. If the Union Leaders had been reasonable, something could have been worked out. Unions weren't listening to their own members let alone to the will of the nation. I blame the Union Leaders for shutting down British manufacturing. The outcome, was that Thatcher's gov made policies that hurt the working classes.

In hindsight, the choices were down to bankrupting the country or closing down Britain's manufacturing. There should have been more options, but neither side was willing to talk. Better to cut off a rotting limb than to allow it to kill the tree. Unfortunate that is came down to that. The Unions shouldn't have driven England to such desperate measures.

She hurt a lot of people. So did the Unions. Can't say I'm too fond of either of them. There's a lot more I could say, but I'll leave it there.

I have a feeling that most of the people in this thread, especially those who are singing her praises, have little to no idea about British politics or Thatcher's term as Prime Minister. They know she was a conservative and she liked Ronald Reagan, that's probably about all.

 

[Foxfyre]

dont tug on supermans cape dude.

the people suffered under her and dont remember her fondly

Oi! Don't speak for me.

I'm a Left leaning female British voter (not currently, I've moved a countries since I last legally voted there). I was born end of 1980 and family lost work due to Thatcher. Can't say I hate her though. Some of the mines should have been closed, some should have been modernized. If the Union Leaders had been reasonable, something could have been worked out. Unions weren't listening to their own members let alone to the will of the nation. I blame the Union Leaders for shutting down British manufacturing. The outcome, was that Thatcher's gov made policies that hurt the working classes.

In hindsight, the choices were down to bankrupting the country or closing down Britain's manufacturing. There should have been more options, but neither side was willing to talk. Better to cut off a rotting limb than to allow it to kill the tree. Unfortunate that is came down to that. The Unions shouldn't have driven England to such desperate measures.

She hurt a lot of people. So did the Unions. Can't say I'm too fond of either of them. There's a lot more I could say, but I'll leave it there.

Okay wading back in here since the worst of the hatemongering seems to have died down. I do appreciate your post Expat.

The one thing that makes true reform and correcting the worst of the worst so difficult is that it cannot be done without negative consequences for some. That is the one thing that makes any kind of sensible policy almost impossible to achieve in this country. If we do THAT it hurts THESE. Fix THIS and it causes THAT. We simply cannot get around it. We can't fix the tax code, for instance, because 50% of Americans now pay little or no federal taxes and nobody wants to anger that many voters by requiring them to get back into the process.

So Maggie probably made as many enemies as she made friends in her determination to fix the worst of what was ailing the U.K. Does it make her evil that she was willing to anger people, even hurt some people, in order to eventually make it better for all? That she based her decisions on conviction and principle rather than politics? That is a reasonable debate to have.

The NYT (uncharacteristically for them) wrote up her story in a reasoned and balanced way that shows the honest good and bad:

The strong economic medicine she administered to a country sickened by inflation, budget deficits and industrial unrest brought her wide swings in popularity, culminating with a revolt among her own cabinet ministers in her final year and her shout of “No! No! No!” in the House of Commons to any further integration with Europe.

But by the time she left office, the principles known as Thatcherism — the belief that economic freedom and individual liberty are interdependent, that personal responsibility and hard work are the only ways to national prosperity, and that the free-market democracies must stand firm against aggression — had won many disciples. Even some of her strongest critics accorded her a grudging respect.

At home, Mrs. Thatcher’s political successes were decisive. She broke the power of the labor unions and forced the Labour Party to abandon its commitment to nationalized industry, redefine the role of the welfare state and accept the importance of the free market.

Abroad, she won new esteem for a country that had been in decline since its costly victory in World War II. After leaving office, she was honored as Baroness Thatcher of Kesteven. But during her first years in power, even many Tories feared that her election might prove a terrible mistake.

In October 1980, 17 months into her first term, Mrs. Thatcher faced disaster. More businesses were failing and more people were out of work than at any time since the Great Depression. Racial and class tensions smoldered. Even her close advisers worried that her push to stanch inflation, sell off nationalized industry and deregulate the economy was devastating the poor, undermining the middle class and courting chaos.

At the Conservative Party conference that month, the moderates grumbled that they were being led by a free-market ideologue oblivious to life on the street and the exigencies of realpolitik. With electoral defeat staring them in the face, cabinet members warned, now was surely a time for compromise.

To Mrs. Thatcher, they could not be more wrong. “I am not a consensus politician,” she said. “I am a conviction politician.”
More here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/09/w...rgaret-thatcher-of-britain-has-died.html?_r=0

 

[Meathead]

dont tug on supermans cape dude.

the people suffered under her and dont remember her fondly

Oi! Don't speak for me.

I'm a Left leaning female British voter (not currently, I've moved a countries since I last legally voted there). I was born end of 1980 and family lost work due to Thatcher. Can't say I hate her though. Some of the mines should have been closed, some should have been modernized. If the Union Leaders had been reasonable, something could have been worked out. Unions weren't listening to their own members let alone to the will of the nation. I blame the Union Leaders for shutting down British manufacturing. The outcome, was that Thatcher's gov made policies that hurt the working classes.

In hindsight, the choices were down to bankrupting the country or closing down Britain's manufacturing. There should have been more options, but neither side was willing to talk. Better to cut off a rotting limb than to allow it to kill the tree. Unfortunate that is came down to that. The Unions shouldn't have driven England to such desperate measures.

She hurt a lot of people. So did the Unions. Can't say I'm too fond of either of them. There's a lot more I could say, but I'll leave it there.

I have a feeling that most of the people in this thread, especially those who are singing her praises, have little to no idea about British politics or Thatcher's term as Prime Minister. They know she was a conservative and she liked Ronald Reagan, that's probably about all.

Odd, I am flat out sure that those deriding her are classless chavs and on these threads ignorant Americans liberals who have no idea what Britain was like in the 1970s.