Marco Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, ‘Communist,’ ‘Marxist,’ ‘Socialist Tyranny’

[bripat9643]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Are the people of North Korea worse off than the people of Cuba?

What's your point asshole? They're both communist.

 

[bripat9643]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Well the protests may have something to do with covid, but the Soviet Union notoriously failed to produce tampons and diapers. When it comes to tech innovation and private enterprise, the social democrats (oh excuse me marxists) fail.

I realize Trumpteers turn up their noses at vaccines, but in that they have more in common with socialists than capitalists. The vaccines produced by Russia and the one state econ in China are not awe inspiring.

THESE Are the Most Telling Failures of Socialism

Some conservatives may be discouraged by the latest surveys confirming that nearly one-half of millennials are receptive to living under socialism and regard capitalism as a captive of greed. In fact, they present us with a golden opportunity to educate all Americans about the manifold failures...

www.heritage.org

They have nothing to do with COVID, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

You mean allow the communist government to murder thousands of Cubans?

 

[bripat9643]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Are the people of North Korea worse off than the people of Cuba?


Also, little marco should be required to find Cuba on a map before he can opine about it.

Rubio is Cuban dumbass.

Little marco was born in Cuba?

In your mind, is Miami part of Florida?

Both his parents were, asshole.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Are the people of North Korea worse off than the people of Cuba?


Also, little marco should be required to find Cuba on a map before he can opine about it.

Rubio is Cuban dumbass.

Little marco was born in Cuba?

In your mind, is Miami part of Florida?

no he didn’t say that…he said he was Cuban. His parents fled the socialist authoritarian tyrants.

The reality is you were unaware of that. Heck you didn’t even know he was hispanic

Fixed

well you can ADD that adjective....but they are Socialist...and Socialist regimes are all authortarian...socialism is authoritarian by nature. I mean when it's one party, and takes away your individual rights...it sort of has to be

No, none of them are Socialist in practice no matter what they call themselves. Republicans call themselves The Party of Lincoln and nothing could be farther from the truth, in practice.

USSR, Venezuela, China, none of them were Communist or Socialist. They were authoritarian/dictatorships.

If you want to see a Socialist country look at Sweden.

sweden does not support collective ownership. But yeah it's certainly not authoritarian

I'm not sure there are any socialist states.

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

There really aren't any. It remains to be seen how well real socialism actually works since it has never been allowed to exist in peace.

Well pure socialism would allow the state to take property, so it's not liable to be peaceful. LOL A 1960's liberal once told me Marx was a genius economist but a shitty judge of human nature.

Biden will fuck it up, but it could be a chance to help Cuba survive with it's social policies while allowing for personal freedoms. I really don't see the cubans voting to give up their universal literacy and healthcare and giving up a classless society (but for maybe the Castros) and allowing the bourgeoise or middle class to run the capital.

Nothing like working your ass off for 40 years and then some shitfuck Socialist government comes in and takes what you earned. I think there would be plenty of bloodshed if that happened...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Are the people of North Korea worse off than the people of Cuba?


Also, little marco should be required to find Cuba on a map before he can opine about it.

Rubio is Cuban dumbass.

Little marco was born in Cuba?

In your mind, is Miami part of Florida?

no he didn’t say that…he said he was Cuban. His parents fled the socialist authoritarian tyrants.

The reality is you were unaware of that. Heck you didn’t even know he was hispanic

Fixed

well you can ADD that adjective....but they are Socialist...and Socialist regimes are all authortarian...socialism is authoritarian by nature. I mean when it's one party, and takes away your individual rights...it sort of has to be

Fidel Castro was a communist struth.

An authoritarian government is modern day Russia.

Maybe..but he ran a socialist regime. No, Castro didn't run Russia. He ran the Socialist regime in Cuba. you might want to look up the defination of socialism and communism.

I'd have to disagree about Castro. He didn't share the soviets ideology of class warfare, perhaps. But his view was the proletariat v. the bourgeoisie. That dovetails with Bernie btw.
Communism is part of their "constitution." They are a one state party as much as is china. And they will use torture and arbitrary imprisonment to ensure a one state govt. And Castro was always hostile to elections because he saw them as not helpful for a cohesive state.

i call bullshit. Before Castro, Cuba was the Las Vegas of the Caribbean. A lot of rich folks went there to spend their money and the people who worked in the entertainment sector were raking in the money, even the poor were doing well. Then along came empty promises of equality , yes, Cuba became equally poor and equally miserable, as soon everyones money ran out.

The poor were not doing well, and that's why Castro kicked out the US corporations

The poor were doing much better than they are today....Just like under President Trump they were doing quite well, but now under XiBiden not so good.

Wealth gap between America's richest and poorest shrinks under Trump

 

[struth]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Are the people of North Korea worse off than the people of Cuba?


Also, little marco should be required to find Cuba on a map before he can opine about it.

Rubio is Cuban dumbass.

Little marco was born in Cuba?

In your mind, is Miami part of Florida?

no he didn’t say that…he said he was Cuban. His parents fled the socialist authoritarian tyrants.

The reality is you were unaware of that. Heck you didn’t even know he was hispanic

Fixed

well you can ADD that adjective....but they are Socialist...and Socialist regimes are all authortarian...socialism is authoritarian by nature. I mean when it's one party, and takes away your individual rights...it sort of has to be

Fidel Castro was a communist struth.

An authoritarian government is modern day Russia.

Maybe..but he ran a socialist regime. No, Castro didn't run Russia. He ran the Socialist regime in Cuba. you might want to look up the defination of socialism and communism.

I'd have to disagree about Castro. He didn't share the soviets ideology of class warfare, perhaps. But his view was the proletariat v. the bourgeoisie. That dovetails with Bernie btw.
Communism is part of their "constitution." They are a one state party as much as is china. And they will use torture and arbitrary imprisonment to ensure a one state govt. And Castro was always hostile to elections because he saw them as not helpful for a cohesive state.

i call bullshit. Before Castro, Cuba was the Las Vegas of the Caribbean. A lot of rich folks went there to spend their money and the people who worked in the entertainment sector were raking in the money, even the poor were doing well. Then along came empty promises of equality , yes, Cuba became equally poor and equally miserable, as soon everyones money ran out.

The poor were not doing well, and that's why Castro kicked out the US corporations

The poor were doing much better than they are today....Just like under President Trump they were doing quite well, but now under XiBiden not so good.

Wealth gap between America's richest and poorest shrinks under Trump

yep…under leftist regimes the poor always suffer more.

Curious what was the poverty rate before the Johnson’s admin war on poverty started? what is it today after trillions spent and massive debt?

 

[Polishprince]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

They need guns and ammo. Communists usually have to be killed before they'd ever change!

You want another Bay of Pigs?

Why? Is China parking nukes in Cuba now?

Apparently some people think we need to get involved in Cuba in a big way.

It is important for America to be involved in Cuba.

They are only 90 miles away, and if the place goes to heck in a handbasket, thousands of Cuban nationals can easily be on our beaches in days.

That is correct but every policy towards Cuba must include the calculation that nothing unites Cubans more than distrust of the US.

I don't think Cubans distrust America at all.

They wouldn't be so anxious to move here if they didn't love us.

Instead they would be escaping to go to the Dominican or Mexico, countries that they share a common language with.

It's complicated. I lived in a Cuban neighborhood in South Florida for ten years. None of them want the US government to directly intervene in Cuba. Not the old exiles or the recent immigrants. There is another problem that no one is talking about. The old exiles have big plans for Cuba post-communism. For starters they want their family land back. The people who live there might have a problem with that.

The one factor I think you are failing to consider is how much Tyranny is hated in Cuba. The Cuban people, both in Florida as well as on the Island itself, crave freedom for their people.

The idea that the Cuban people love despotism is just bullshit. And its the kind of bullshit we heard before about the Polish people, the Slovaks, Slovenes and Bulgarians among others.

When those people got the opportunity to become free, they took it.

When I was a young man, I would hear from liberal talking heads as to how much the Hungarians and East Germans loved being told what to do and that they would fight for communism just like Americans would fight for Freedom.

That was of course, proven to be bullshit.

And ditto with the Cubans, who want freedom.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

There are so many ways this biden regime simply does not measure up to what any American Govrnment should be.....one big way is their refusal to be completely honest about what is happening in Cuba....aka trying to blame the uprising on the covid virus or referring to it as a protest against authortarianism.....oh so weak joe.

Rubio on Cuba: Call It by Its Name, 'Communist,' 'Marxist,' 'Socialist Tyranny'

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said Congress must qualify the political nature of oppression in Cuba as "communist," "Marxist," and "socialist."

www.breitbart.com

Are the people of North Korea worse off than the people of Cuba?


Also, little marco should be required to find Cuba on a map before he can opine about it.

Rubio is Cuban dumbass.

Little marco was born in Cuba?

In your mind, is Miami part of Florida?

no he didn’t say that…he said he was Cuban. His parents fled the socialist authoritarian tyrants.

The reality is you were unaware of that. Heck you didn’t even know he was hispanic

Fixed

well you can ADD that adjective....but they are Socialist...and Socialist regimes are all authortarian...socialism is authoritarian by nature. I mean when it's one party, and takes away your individual rights...it sort of has to be

Fidel Castro was a communist struth.

An authoritarian government is modern day Russia.

Maybe..but he ran a socialist regime. No, Castro didn't run Russia. He ran the Socialist regime in Cuba. you might want to look up the defination of socialism and communism.

I'd have to disagree about Castro. He didn't share the soviets ideology of class warfare, perhaps. But his view was the proletariat v. the bourgeoisie. That dovetails with Bernie btw.
Communism is part of their "constitution." They are a one state party as much as is china. And they will use torture and arbitrary imprisonment to ensure a one state govt. And Castro was always hostile to elections because he saw them as not helpful for a cohesive state.

i call bullshit. Before Castro, Cuba was the Las Vegas of the Caribbean. A lot of rich folks went there to spend their money and the people who worked in the entertainment sector were raking in the money, even the poor were doing well. Then along came empty promises of equality , yes, Cuba became equally poor and equally miserable, as soon everyones money ran out.

The poor were not doing well, and that's why Castro kicked out the US corporations

The poor were doing much better than they are today....Just like under President Trump they were doing quite well, but now under XiBiden not so good.

Wealth gap between America's richest and poorest shrinks under Trump

yep…under leftist regimes the poor always suffer more.

Curious what was the poverty rate before the Johnson’s admin war on poverty started? what is it today after trillions spent and massive debt?

The estimated aggregate cost of the War on Poverty is nearly $28 trillion, which is three and a half times higher than the $8 trillion total price tag of every major war since the American Revolution.

It’s Time to Admit the Feds Are Making Poverty Worse—Not ...​

www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=11707

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

They need guns and ammo. Communists usually have to be killed before they'd ever change!

You want another Bay of Pigs?

Why? Is China parking nukes in Cuba now?

Apparently some people think we need to get involved in Cuba in a big way.

It is important for America to be involved in Cuba.

They are only 90 miles away, and if the place goes to heck in a handbasket, thousands of Cuban nationals can easily be on our beaches in days.

That is correct but every policy towards Cuba must include the calculation that nothing unites Cubans more than distrust of the US.

I don't think Cubans distrust America at all.

They wouldn't be so anxious to move here if they didn't love us.

Instead they would be escaping to go to the Dominican or Mexico, countries that they share a common language with.

It's complicated. I lived in a Cuban neighborhood in South Florida for ten years. None of them want the US government to directly intervene in Cuba. Not the old exiles or the recent immigrants. There is another problem that no one is talking about. The old exiles have big plans for Cuba post-communism. For starters they want their family land back. The people who live there might have a problem with that.

The one factor I think you are failing to consider is how much Tyranny is hated in Cuba. The Cuban people, both in Florida as well as on the Island itself, crave freedom for their people.

The idea that the Cuban people love despotism is just bullshit. And its the kind of bullshit we heard before about the Polish people, the Slovaks, Slovenes and Bulgarians among others.

When those people got the opportunity to become free, they took it.

When I was a young man, I would hear from liberal talking heads as to how much the Hungarians and East Germans loved being told what to do and that they would fight for communism just like Americans would fight for Freedom.

That was of course, proven to be bullshit.

And ditto with the Cubans, who want freedom.

Back in the late 1970s when i was near the Berlin Wall, i never saw someone from the free side of Germany trying to go over the wall, but i saw plenty of people facing machine guns and rabid dogs going from the Socialist side to the free side...Funny how that always seems to work.

 

[occupied]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

They need guns and ammo. Communists usually have to be killed before they'd ever change!

You want another Bay of Pigs?

Why? Is China parking nukes in Cuba now?

Apparently some people think we need to get involved in Cuba in a big way.

It is important for America to be involved in Cuba.

They are only 90 miles away, and if the place goes to heck in a handbasket, thousands of Cuban nationals can easily be on our beaches in days.

That is correct but every policy towards Cuba must include the calculation that nothing unites Cubans more than distrust of the US.

I don't think Cubans distrust America at all.

They wouldn't be so anxious to move here if they didn't love us.

Instead they would be escaping to go to the Dominican or Mexico, countries that they share a common language with.

It's complicated. I lived in a Cuban neighborhood in South Florida for ten years. None of them want the US government to directly intervene in Cuba. Not the old exiles or the recent immigrants. There is another problem that no one is talking about. The old exiles have big plans for Cuba post-communism. For starters they want their family land back. The people who live there might have a problem with that.

The one factor I think you are failing to consider is how much Tyranny is hated in Cuba. The Cuban people, both in Florida as well as on the Island itself, crave freedom for their people.

The idea that the Cuban people love despotism is just bullshit. And its the kind of bullshit we heard before about the Polish people, the Slovaks, Slovenes and Bulgarians among others.

When those people got the opportunity to become free, they took it.

When I was a young man, I would hear from liberal talking heads as to how much the Hungarians and East Germans loved being told what to do and that they would fight for communism just like Americans would fight for Freedom.

That was of course, proven to be bullshit.

And ditto with the Cubans, who want freedom.

Cubans may want freedom but they have good reason to fear the day communism falls. It is very likely that the South Florida Cuban exiles will attempt to seize political and economic control of the island. They collectively have the money and resources to do it. Will they be any better off under a bunch of ultra-conservatives with a lot of axes to grind?

 

[Polishprince]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

They need guns and ammo. Communists usually have to be killed before they'd ever change!

You want another Bay of Pigs?

Why? Is China parking nukes in Cuba now?

Apparently some people think we need to get involved in Cuba in a big way.

It is important for America to be involved in Cuba.

They are only 90 miles away, and if the place goes to heck in a handbasket, thousands of Cuban nationals can easily be on our beaches in days.

That is correct but every policy towards Cuba must include the calculation that nothing unites Cubans more than distrust of the US.

I don't think Cubans distrust America at all.

They wouldn't be so anxious to move here if they didn't love us.

Instead they would be escaping to go to the Dominican or Mexico, countries that they share a common language with.

It's complicated. I lived in a Cuban neighborhood in South Florida for ten years. None of them want the US government to directly intervene in Cuba. Not the old exiles or the recent immigrants. There is another problem that no one is talking about. The old exiles have big plans for Cuba post-communism. For starters they want their family land back. The people who live there might have a problem with that.

The one factor I think you are failing to consider is how much Tyranny is hated in Cuba. The Cuban people, both in Florida as well as on the Island itself, crave freedom for their people.

The idea that the Cuban people love despotism is just bullshit. And its the kind of bullshit we heard before about the Polish people, the Slovaks, Slovenes and Bulgarians among others.

When those people got the opportunity to become free, they took it.

When I was a young man, I would hear from liberal talking heads as to how much the Hungarians and East Germans loved being told what to do and that they would fight for communism just like Americans would fight for Freedom.

That was of course, proven to be bullshit.

And ditto with the Cubans, who want freedom.

Cubans may want freedom but they have good reason to fear the day communism falls. It is very likely that the South Florida Cuban exiles will attempt to seize political and economic control of the island. They collectively have the money and resources to do it. Will they be any better off under a bunch of ultra-conservatives with a lot of axes to grind?

The Communists in Cuba wouldn't be better off, but the people of Cuba certainly would be.

Most of the communists would end up like Emilio Rebenga.

But the whole island would enjoy an economic revival, particularly considering how close they are to the Tremendous State of Florida.

 

[bripat9643]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

They need guns and ammo. Communists usually have to be killed before they'd ever change!

You want another Bay of Pigs?

Why? Is China parking nukes in Cuba now?

Apparently some people think we need to get involved in Cuba in a big way.

It is important for America to be involved in Cuba.

They are only 90 miles away, and if the place goes to heck in a handbasket, thousands of Cuban nationals can easily be on our beaches in days.

That is correct but every policy towards Cuba must include the calculation that nothing unites Cubans more than distrust of the US.

I don't think Cubans distrust America at all.

They wouldn't be so anxious to move here if they didn't love us.

Instead they would be escaping to go to the Dominican or Mexico, countries that they share a common language with.

It's complicated. I lived in a Cuban neighborhood in South Florida for ten years. None of them want the US government to directly intervene in Cuba. Not the old exiles or the recent immigrants. There is another problem that no one is talking about. The old exiles have big plans for Cuba post-communism. For starters they want their family land back. The people who live there might have a problem with that.

The one factor I think you are failing to consider is how much Tyranny is hated in Cuba. The Cuban people, both in Florida as well as on the Island itself, crave freedom for their people.

The idea that the Cuban people love despotism is just bullshit. And its the kind of bullshit we heard before about the Polish people, the Slovaks, Slovenes and Bulgarians among others.

When those people got the opportunity to become free, they took it.

When I was a young man, I would hear from liberal talking heads as to how much the Hungarians and East Germans loved being told what to do and that they would fight for communism just like Americans would fight for Freedom.

That was of course, proven to be bullshit.

And ditto with the Cubans, who want freedom.

Cubans may want freedom but they have good reason to fear the day communism falls. It is very likely that the South Florida Cuban exiles will attempt to seize political and economic control of the island. They collectively have the money and resources to do it. Will they be any better off under a bunch of ultra-conservatives with a lot of axes to grind?

Yes they would, dumbass.

 

[occupied]

Trying to turn this into a nostalgic cold war Reagan moment is exactly the wrong thing to do.

What's the "right" thing to do?

Try and save the hides of the Communist Regime in Cuba? Enable them to continue to deny the people their rights and continue to engage in the financial assrapery of Cuba?

Stay the fuck out of it for a change and allow the Cuban people to determine their future on their own terms.

They need guns and ammo. Communists usually have to be killed before they'd ever change!

You want another Bay of Pigs?

Why? Is China parking nukes in Cuba now?

Apparently some people think we need to get involved in Cuba in a big way.

It is important for America to be involved in Cuba.

They are only 90 miles away, and if the place goes to heck in a handbasket, thousands of Cuban nationals can easily be on our beaches in days.

That is correct but every policy towards Cuba must include the calculation that nothing unites Cubans more than distrust of the US.

I don't think Cubans distrust America at all.

They wouldn't be so anxious to move here if they didn't love us.

Instead they would be escaping to go to the Dominican or Mexico, countries that they share a common language with.

It's complicated. I lived in a Cuban neighborhood in South Florida for ten years. None of them want the US government to directly intervene in Cuba. Not the old exiles or the recent immigrants. There is another problem that no one is talking about. The old exiles have big plans for Cuba post-communism. For starters they want their family land back. The people who live there might have a problem with that.

The one factor I think you are failing to consider is how much Tyranny is hated in Cuba. The Cuban people, both in Florida as well as on the Island itself, crave freedom for their people.

The idea that the Cuban people love despotism is just bullshit. And its the kind of bullshit we heard before about the Polish people, the Slovaks, Slovenes and Bulgarians among others.

When those people got the opportunity to become free, they took it.

When I was a young man, I would hear from liberal talking heads as to how much the Hungarians and East Germans loved being told what to do and that they would fight for communism just like Americans would fight for Freedom.

That was of course, proven to be bullshit.

And ditto with the Cubans, who want freedom.

Cubans may want freedom but they have good reason to fear the day communism falls. It is very likely that the South Florida Cuban exiles will attempt to seize political and economic control of the island. They collectively have the money and resources to do it. Will they be any better off under a bunch of ultra-conservatives with a lot of axes to grind?

The Communists in Cuba wouldn't be better off, but the people of Cuba certainly would be.

Most of the communists would end up like Emilio Rebenga.

But the whole island would enjoy an economic revival, particularly considering how close they are to the Tremendous State of Florida.

If you believe in self-determination at all you will understand the trepidation they have for the ultimate motives of the people poised to invade their island. In spite of everything they are fiercely proud of their country and no reason to welcome the descendants of the landlords and mafia bosses who had flee.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You might be aware that America has an abysmal record promoting our supposed values around the hemisphere.

You might be surprised that since they are 90 miles away from the mainland, that such chaos and unrest could in fact be a danger to our national security. We don't need to install a puppet government. Just decapitate the one in place, arm the rebels, and get out. That's it. That's all.

Accept that direct US involvement can only make things worse and hope for the best. Cubans will not accept any sort of regime change they do not effect for themselves.

What? Have you been to Cuba to take a poll lately? If their unrest poses a danger to the US mainland, intervention is required. That could easily devolve into a civil war if left unchecked. A civil war that could spill over to us. I hope Biden is competent enough to recognize threats to our national security enough to neutralize them.


And... you are not going to sit there and tell me what I must "accept".

 

[occupied]

You might be aware that America has an abysmal record promoting our supposed values around the hemisphere.

You might be surprised that since they are 90 miles away from the mainland, that such chaos and unrest could in fact be a danger to our national security. We don't need to install a puppet government. Just decapitate the one in place, arm the rebels, and get out. That's it. That's all.

Accept that direct US involvement can only make things worse and hope for the best. Cubans will not accept any sort of regime change they do not effect for themselves.

What? Have you been to Cuba to take a poll lately? If their unrest poses a danger to the US mainland, intervention is required. That could easily devolve into a civil war if left unchecked. A civil war that could spill over to us. I hope Biden is competent enough to recognize threats to our national security enough to neutralize them.


And... you are not going to sit there and tell me what I must "accept".

The US overtly intervening in Cuba will result in practically the entire Island uniting behind the current government. As long they see it as their fight and their business they just might overturn the government but they never will if it seems the US might get involved. You don't have to understand a country that wants freedom but still hates America, you just have to accept it.