Man blocks black delivery driver in Oklahoma neighborhood

[airplanemechanic]

Said man was a moron.

Move on.

 

[IM2]

Are you unaware of the number of people on this message board alone who have readily admitted and stated unequivocally that if they see a black person in their neighborhood they consider them a criminal suspect? As long as there is a significant portion of the U.S. population who believes as they do and acts on it then we will continue to have these incidents.

There are numerous communities in America that are virtually or literally 100% Honky. Its going to pique people's interest when someone of non-honky ethnicity drops in.

I'm sure that the neighbors would be peaking out their windows if I walked down the streets of Watts or Bed Stuy or numerous other Ghettos that the residents don't know me, too.

I'm pretty sure when white walks into ghetto it doesn't get any attention from anybody.

And if he/she get robbed, raped, or killed, it has nothing to do with race.

Whose white?

And why are these posts so racist?

What exactly is racist there?

Be white and make a wrong turn to Detroit East side, or Chicago South side.

What do you think it would happen? You may think they would politely ask you to leave from their "private" gated community?

If you are white and driving a delivery truck the people know that you are taking something to somebodys house. Think before you run your mouth trying to make false equivalences.

You sound as someone who was never in Detroit East side. I highly recommend it as your next tourist destination.

Sorry but the excuse of Detroit doesn't apply. And I've been to Detroit.

 

[IM2]

In normal times, a Type I error is ho hum, and doesn't even make the local news, and that's how it still is for all Type I errors EXCEPT when the person making the error is white and the subject of the error is black. Then it is national news.

It's not ho hum when a man is held against his will, regardless of why. But when racism is the reason the person is held, that makes it national news. Racists need to be publicly shamed and shunned.

Only complete idiots can't find a better reason to like a person or dislike a person, one that goes any deeper than their skin color.

One of the many problems with the Great National Sin being "racism" is that, to the extent it can even be defined, it is misapplied, and, because it is an "ism", it can be asserted anywhere at any time against anybody. That's why the murderous, totalitarian, genocidal left loves it. It' like "enemy of the people". It doesn't require proof of any inculpatory action. Just the assertion is enough to justify execution, as history's most lethal group, the Bolsheviks, amply demonstrated.

You are a case in point. You see that the resident was white and the driver was black, and, presto, you KNOW that the motivating factor was "racism". Just as the Bolsheviks only needed to see that the prisoner was an artist to determine guilt and execute him, all you need to see is that resident was white to determine guilt. As Lenin famously said, all of history comes down to Who? Whom?

That's because whites have a 243 year history of consistent racist behavior. The only white people really whining about being called racists are the whites who actually are racist.

You're kind of a knucklehead, so you probably won't be able to grasp this, but here goes.

1. Race is nothing more than a very large, very extended, slightly inbred family. That's it. Members of the same race are more related to each other than they are to any other members of any other race.
2. Therefore, to call someone a racist is to call someone a familyist.
3. And yes, I am more solicitous of my mother's well-being than any other mother's on earth. She is higher in my affections. I will contribute to her happiness before I will contribute to the happiness of any other mother, and I flat out love her more than any other mother on earth.
4. So what? If I didn't put my mother first, I would be something of a monster, wouldn't I.
5. Blacks put other blacks first. Jews put other Jews first. Chinese put other Chinese first. There's nothing wrong with that.
6. It is only whites who think it's a sin to put other whites first.
7. Everyone else knows down deep this whole "racism" thing is a huge scam being run on the people who created the greatest civilization in history in order to destroy them.
8. Other than the whites themselves, the only people who really think racism is evil are the mediocrities such as yourself who've convinced themselves of it out of the need to blame their failure in life on somebody else.

If there was a law I could have passed that would give me and others like me advantages that people not of our group were not entitled to, do you think that would be a good thing or a fair thing for me & my group? What about those not in our group?

In the United States many of our laws were written in order to exclude people African descent from the same benefits and privileges that whites enjoyed so to attempt to downplay the type of institutional racism that was legislatively woven into U.S. law and society would require willful ignorance to ignore, in my opinion.

I suppose almost all our laws are written to give our group advantages. Our highway safety laws, for example, are written for the benefit of Americans. Brazilians are not entitled to the safety advantages they provide. And Brazilian laws work the same way in reverse. So what?

Many of our laws were not "written to exclude blacks". There were some exceptions, I suppose, like the famous Jim Crow laws. For a short time. In only a few states. And, for the most part, the Jim Crow laws were how our ancestors addressed the problem of black crime. But those laws haven't existed for a very long time. Yet we're still getting beaten up about them, and the white people who put an end to them are never thanked.

It's like slavery. Everybody was in on the African slave trade. African warlords captured Africans and sold them to Arab slavers who drove them to the coast where they were put on ships financed by Jews and taken to South America, where Jews and Europeans used them for labor. A small percentage came to North America. Slavery had existed for 300 years in North America already when the United States was born, and it only took less than a third of that amount of time for Americans to get rid of it--even though it cost us a horrific and bloody war of brother against brother for the benefit of members of another race. There is no other example of anything like that in world history. Then, it only took another hundred years to have the descendants of these illiterate slaves standing as full citizens with the majority--the wealthiest, most educated, most influential, most creative population of African descent anywhere in the world.

But instead of recognizing this glorious achievement by both black and white Americans, so many blacks today are willing to snipe from the corners about the 'willful ignorance" of white people and the "institutional racism" of white people in exchange for their pats on the head from their Jewish controllers--the George Soroses and the New York Times et al.

Except for Louis Farrakhan, blacks don't see what the Jews have in store for them.

More excuses. You point out that slaves were illiterate. It was made against the law for blacks to read and write. A slave could be killed for having that ability. The civil war was not about about freeing blacks and blacks died fighting in that war. There is no other example of that happening because there is no example of that happening at all except in the imagination of white supremacist excuse making bastards like you. So while your post wants to excuse things, you need to be more accurate in your opinions.

The Civil War was about ending slavery. Period. White-hating, America-hating mediocrities such as yourself refuse to admit it, but it is true. Had slavery not existed in the United States, the war would not have been fought. Read the Lincoln-Douglas debates in the run-up to the 1860 presidential election. They are ALL about slavery. The Missouri compromise and the Kansas-Nebraska Act were battles over slavery. The original Declaration of Independence included a condemnation of slavery that was removed only because the southern colonies refused to join the revolution against England if it remained. White Christian countries in Europe and the United States were the first nations in history to outlaw slavery on moral grounds. In Africa, slavery still exists. In parts of black Africa, pygmies and bushmen are still enslaved and even hunted for food. Your blind hatred of whites leaves you foaming at the mouth, endlessly posting your ignorant venom-filled tripe here.

Wrong. And that he hate whitey whining does you no good. I have read plenty and we are talking about America and not Africa. American racial history did not end when slavery ended son. Learn that. This thread is not about slavery boy. It is about modern white racism whereby a white man felt he had the right to stop a black man and question him while he was doing his job. Slavery doesn't have a damn thing to do with this, neither does rural african pygmy tribes and modern slavery that goes on in Europe just as much as Africa.

You are a ignorant son of a bitch. Stay in the rubber room.

 

[IM2]

I think he is conflating 'left winger' with 'only democrat'.
A distinction without a difference any more.

Quite possibly, I've grown accustomed to his "debating style".

Well, there is a lot of AltLite perspective that is not overtly IP White Nationalist, but can be seen that way.

Alot of white conservatives are outraged that if they simply criticise a black politician or question the White KKK narrative, they get labeled as racist.

I dont see these guys as racist as I think of that as an ideologiclly driven system of thought, as to where I suspect Godboy is just a bigot, which I dont equate with racism, just a certain kind of ignorance.

Godboy is a racist. There is a difference between ideological thought than what godboy posts.

Bootney is a conservative ideologically, so is Levant, but they are not racists.

 

[Ame®icano]

Are you unaware of the number of people on this message board alone who have readily admitted and stated unequivocally that if they see a black person in their neighborhood they consider them a criminal suspect? As long as there is a significant portion of the U.S. population who believes as they do and acts on it then we will continue to have these incidents.

There are numerous communities in America that are virtually or literally 100% Honky. Its going to pique people's interest when someone of non-honky ethnicity drops in.

I'm sure that the neighbors would be peaking out their windows if I walked down the streets of Watts or Bed Stuy or numerous other Ghettos that the residents don't know me, too.

I'm pretty sure when white walks into ghetto it doesn't get any attention from anybody.

And if he/she get robbed, raped, or killed, it has nothing to do with race.

Whose white?

And why are these posts so racist?

What exactly is racist there?

Be white and make a wrong turn to Detroit East side, or Chicago South side.

What do you think it would happen? You may think they would politely ask you to leave from their "private" gated community?

If you are white and driving a delivery truck the people know that you are taking something to somebodys house. Think before you run your mouth trying to make false equivalences.

You sound as someone who was never in Detroit East side. I highly recommend it as your next tourist destination.

Sorry but the excuse of Detroit doesn't apply. And I've been to Detroit.

Right... you know better than I who live here. Moron.

 

[Levant]

You know what, my mind automatically blanks out the labels. When I first had a conversation with Godboy it was regarding this same topic - that white people have never rioted and that black people have a propensity for it.

No; in this case your mind automatically created a label. White. The discussion was left riots (see Antifa) versus right protests (see gun protest in Virginia) but you turned it into white and went back 100 years to get an example of white violence. Godboy's comment was not white versus black. YOU created that label.

One doesn't have to go back 100 years jack ass.

I'm sorry; did you forget a link?

 

[Levant]

I copied your string of quotes, pasted the text into a text editor window then conducted a search on the text string "Democrats". The only reference to the word "Democrat" in that string of text was first made by you and then later echoed by me to ask "And where exactly did you say "only democrats..." prior to this post?"

Are you mistaken or are you intentionally lying?

What an inherently dishonest post. Did you search for left? Or liberal?

 

[Levant]

I can see why you would believe that however this is my first conversation with Godboy below which is why I know he's a racist and can't ever admit when he's mistaken about something, at least not to a black person:

I don't doubt he's a racist. His post about demonstrations and violence was not about black and white; it was about right and left. You're still twisting the words. He didn't say Democrats; he said leftwingers or something to that effect.

The way to win a debate is to argue honestly. The way to win a shouting match is to say anything you want, with no regard to truth - or even intentionally untruthful, but say it the loudest or the longest.

 

[Levant]

You know what, my mind automatically blanks out the labels. When I first had a conversation with Godboy it was regarding this same topic - that white people have never rioted and that black people have a propensity for it.

No; in this case your mind automatically created a label. White. The discussion was left riots (see Antifa) versus right protests (see gun protest in Virginia) but you turned it into white and went back 100 years to get an example of white violence. Godboy's comment was not white versus black. YOU created that label.

Godboy's comment has already been proven to be a lie and therefore this whole point is rendered moot at this time.

All these labels - conservatives, liberals, right-wing, left-wing, etc. - the adjectives that elicit strong emotions instead of the subject matter cause people to argue over the pettiest of things instead of focusing on the topic at hand thereby completely missing the whole point of the conversation or article, particularly since people use the terms in ways other than their actual definitions.

The last news article I posted last night is entitled "Trump's Secret New Watchlist Lets His Administration Track Americans Without Needing a Warrant" and right on que, one of the first people to respond went off on a vulgar tirade in defense of Traump.

It doesn't matter that it's the Trump Administration doing the spying now, or that it was the Obama Administration doing it previously or that it was the Bush Administration prior to then. The critical issue is that our government is doing this at all when it shouldn't be and that no one is holding them accountable because our Congress people don't behave much better than the adults acting like children posting here at times. Far too many people are bickering over whose watch it occurred under instead of attempting to do something about the fact that it's being done at all.

Same with just about every single topic broached on these boards

Are you seriously suggesting that leftwing is codeword for black and conservative is codeword for white? Unbelievable. You've just lost any credibility for anything you say.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I copied your string of quotes, pasted the text into a text editor window then conducted a search on the text string "Democrats". The only reference to the word "Democrat" in that string of text was first made by you and then later echoed by me to ask "And where exactly did you say "only democrats..." prior to this post?"

Are you mistaken or are you intentionally lying?

What an inherently dishonest post. Did you search for left? Or liberal?

I don't understand. I have no problem using the correct words to convey the meaning of my thoughts yet now you're accusing me of being dishonest because I dont' consider Democrat, liberal & left as synonyms while Godboy when given the opportunity to indicate that he was using the terms 'democrat' in place of another term simply doubled down on his lie that he had used the term in our conversation and if I can't see that this is the case then the defect is with me, even though it's simply not there.

So tell me again why I'm being dishonest and he is not?

adjective
adjective: left

1. 1. on, toward, or relating to the side of a human body or of a thing that is to the west when the person or thing is facing north.
   "her left eye"
   h
   Similar:
   left-hand
   at nine o'clock
   port

• 2. relating to a person or group favoring liberal, socialist, or radical views.
  "Left politics"

Still don't see the word Democrat above nor any of the synonyms below

democrat

• lawmaker.
• leader.
• legislator.
• senator.
• boss.
• orator.
• partisan.
• speaker.

Synonyms of democrat | Thesaurus.com

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I can see why you would believe that however this is my first conversation with Godboy below which is why I know he's a racist and can't ever admit when he's mistaken about something, at least not to a black person:

I don't doubt he's a racist. His post about demonstrations and violence was not about black and white; it was about right and left. You're still twisting the words. He didn't say Democrats; he said leftwingers or something to that effect.

The way to win a debate is to argue honestly. The way to win a shouting match is to say anything you want, with no regard to truth - or even intentionally untruthful, but say it the loudest or the longest.

If I show you that where I entered this converstion Godboy was bitching about Black Lives Matter, casting aspersions upon it's membership and black people in general, like he's been doing since the day I first encountered him, would that be enough for you to believe he was not merely discussing left & right, that he was using that as a lead-in to take pot shots at black people as he often does here?

I'm not the one who needs the lecture about honesty and stand by my words because I can prove what I've said although I still have no clue why you would support a proven liar let alone a racist not that one thing has anything to do with the other.

 

[Levant]

Right... you know better than I who live here. Moron.

You live in Detroit? Which part do you live in that makes you know more about the black experience in America than IM2 just because you live there?

 

[Levant]

I copied your string of quotes, pasted the text into a text editor window then conducted a search on the text string "Democrats". The only reference to the word "Democrat" in that string of text was first made by you and then later echoed by me to ask "And where exactly did you say "only democrats..." prior to this post?"

Are you mistaken or are you intentionally lying?

What an inherently dishonest post. Did you search for left? Or liberal?

I don't understand. I have no problem using the correct words to convey the meaning of my thoughts yet now you're accusing me of being dishonest because I dont' consider Democrat, liberal & left as synonyms while Godboy when given the opportunity to indicate that he was using the terms 'democrat' in place of another term simply doubled down on his lie that he had used the term in our conversation and if I can't see that this is the case then the defect is with me, even though it's simply not there.

So tell me again why I'm being dishonest and he is not?

Simple answer. He said that violent protests were always leftwingers and that you can't show a violent protest by conservatives... You answered by changing leftwingers to black and conservative to white. And you're persisting even still, after I previously pointed it out. He didn't even say Democrat but if you can show me a conservative Democrat, I'd like to see it. If you want to debate him on white versus black, go back to that thread and debate him - let me know where and I'll join you in the fight. In this thread, in the post about violent protests, he said leftwingers and conservatives.

It's possible that a conservative could be so infected with TDS that they'd vote Democrat just to hurt Trump. I know this because I had Bush Derangement Syndrome, combined with McCain Derangement Syndrome, so bad after the thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that Bush killed that I voted for Obama rather than for McCain. It can happen.

 

[Levant]

I'm not the one who needs the lecture about honesty and stand by my words because I can prove what I've said although I still have no clue why you would support a proven liar let alone a racist not that one thing has anything to do with the other.

Just as I tell my fellow conservatives when they lie or ignore the truth or twist words - honesty counts. In the post you responded to, he didn't say black and white, he said leftwingers and conservatives. Then you claim not to see or create labels but you did. You equated leftwing to black (racist in itself) and conservative to white - more racism. I don't think you're a racist but if you keep defending your claim then I will have to wonder. If you made a mistake you should just own up to it.. or take my correction and don't respond.. but to continue to defend it brings your own character into question.

 

[IM2]

Are you unaware of the number of people on this message board alone who have readily admitted and stated unequivocally that if they see a black person in their neighborhood they consider them a criminal suspect? As long as there is a significant portion of the U.S. population who believes as they do and acts on it then we will continue to have these incidents.

There are numerous communities in America that are virtually or literally 100% Honky. Its going to pique people's interest when someone of non-honky ethnicity drops in.

I'm sure that the neighbors would be peaking out their windows if I walked down the streets of Watts or Bed Stuy or numerous other Ghettos that the residents don't know me, too.

I'm pretty sure when white walks into ghetto it doesn't get any attention from anybody.

And if he/she get robbed, raped, or killed, it has nothing to do with race.

Whose white?

And why are these posts so racist?

What exactly is racist there?

Be white and make a wrong turn to Detroit East side, or Chicago South side.

What do you think it would happen? You may think they would politely ask you to leave from their "private" gated community?

If you are white and driving a delivery truck the people know that you are taking something to somebodys house. Think before you run your mouth trying to make false equivalences.

You sound as someone who was never in Detroit East side. I highly recommend it as your next tourist destination.

Sorry but the excuse of Detroit doesn't apply. And I've been to Detroit.

Right... you know better than I who live here. Moron.

I do, because you are a racist and will conflate things about the black community. I am black and you want to tell me about black people. Think about that while you whine about me telling you about where you live punk.

 

[IM2]

I'm not the one who needs the lecture about honesty and stand by my words because I can prove what I've said although I still have no clue why you would support a proven liar let alone a racist not that one thing has anything to do with the other.

Just as I tell my fellow conservatives when they lie or ignore the truth or twist words - honesty counts. In the post you responded to, he didn't say black and white, he said leftwingers and conservatives. Then you claim not to see or create labels but you did. You equated leftwing to black (racist in itself) and conservative to white - more racism. I don't think you're a racist but if you keep defending your claim then I will have to wonder. If you made a mistake you should just own up to it.. or take my correction and don't respond.. but to continue to defend it brings your own character into question.

The problem with what you're saying Levant is that dog whistles exist and for you to try telling a black person how they don't see racism when we have grown up learning to see racism in order to survive is just not something you should do. Liberal does mean black in conversations about race or people who support and endorse black equality. Conservative, American and real American means white.

 

[Ame®icano]

Right... you know better than I who live here. Moron.

You live in Detroit? Which part do you live in that makes you know more about the black experience in America than IM2 just because you live there?

Really... That is not what is said, and you know that.

He claim he knows Detroit because "he's been there". You assume that makes him an expert, and disregard that I used to live in the heart of Detroit, and still live nearby. But let's take his word for it, because "he's been there". Riding thru it, or flying over it doesn't really count, does it?

 

[otto105]

You know what, my mind automatically blanks out the labels. When I first had a conversation with Godboy it was regarding this same topic - that white people have never rioted and that black people have a propensity for it.

No; in this case your mind automatically created a label. White. The discussion was left riots (see Antifa) versus right protests (see gun protest in Virginia) but you turned it into white and went back 100 years to get an example of white violence. Godboy's comment was not white versus black. YOU created that label.

One doesn't have to go back 100 years jack ass.

I'm sorry; did you forget a link?

No, you're forgetting history.

 

[IM2]

I copied your string of quotes, pasted the text into a text editor window then conducted a search on the text string "Democrats". The only reference to the word "Democrat" in that string of text was first made by you and then later echoed by me to ask "And where exactly did you say "only democrats..." prior to this post?"

Are you mistaken or are you intentionally lying?

What an inherently dishonest post. Did you search for left? Or liberal?

I don't understand. I have no problem using the correct words to convey the meaning of my thoughts yet now you're accusing me of being dishonest because I dont' consider Democrat, liberal & left as synonyms while Godboy when given the opportunity to indicate that he was using the terms 'democrat' in place of another term simply doubled down on his lie that he had used the term in our conversation and if I can't see that this is the case then the defect is with me, even though it's simply not there.

So tell me again why I'm being dishonest and he is not?

Simple answer. He said that violent protests were always leftwingers and that you can't show a violent protest by conservatives... You answered by changing leftwingers to black and conservative to white. And you're persisting even still, after I previously pointed it out. He didn't even say Democrat but if you can show me a conservative Democrat, I'd like to see it. If you want to debate him on white versus black, go back to that thread and debate him - let me know where and I'll join you in the fight. In this thread, in the post about violent protests, he said leftwingers and conservatives.

It's possible that a conservative could be so infected with TDS that they'd vote Democrat just to hurt Trump. I know this because I had Bush Derangement Syndrome, combined with McCain Derangement Syndrome, so bad after the thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that Bush killed that I voted for Obama rather than for McCain. It can happen.

Actually you have chosen to deny violent protests from conservatives such as the OKC bombing, abortion clinic bombings, mass shootings and riots like Charlottesville and Portland. You have ignored actions by the Republic of Texas group that murdered a judge as well as Eric Rudolph, several militia groups and armed stand offs in Nevada, Ruby Ridge and the armed takeover of a federal government building in Oregon.

There is a list compiled of violent activities and in the past 40 years the majority of them have been done by conservative groups. Do not try playing the game of just because he didn't say black he wasn't saying anything racist. That's how modern racism is played Levant. We blacks know this because we have to navigate through It in order to succeed.

 

[IM2]

Right... you know better than I who live here. Moron.

You live in Detroit? Which part do you live in that makes you know more about the black experience in America than IM2 just because you live there?

Really... That is not what is said, and you know that.

He claim he knows Detroit because "he's been there". You assume that makes him an expert, and disregard that I used to live in the heart of Detroit, and still live nearby. But let's take his word for it, because "he's been there". Riding thru it, or flying over it doesn't really count, does it?

You claim to know about blacks and you are not black.

You claim to know about a black community when you don't live in it. I can't drive through certain rural towns in Michigan at night because I would fear for my life but you would not consider them dangerous you because they are all white towns and whites just aren't violent according to you , no matter how much American history documents the real amount of overall amount of white acts of violence.