I can understand China asking it's people who lost loved ones to not reflect poorly on China. The Chinese are acting like fools. Endless hysteria demanding to know what happened to the plane has caused Malaysian representatives to remark that many nations have lost loved ones, but only the Chinese are hysterical with ridiculous demands to know what happened and where their loved ones are.
Malaysian airliner missing with 239 people on board
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Statistikhengst
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one would think that it would be rather easy
to figure out where this came from
there appears to be serial numbers on it
i currently have com across a whopper
involving a person aboard the plane sending out a message
Please do share!!!
At some point there was an explanation--
The Chinese government does not allow criticism of itself. At the start of this--it was said they 'allowed' some venting against Malaysia--therapeutic. So what we now have--people who have 'repressed anger'? --can never speak against their own government and are unleashing years of emotions???
I can't say.
I hold Malaysia Airlines fully accountable but at this point I don't know what more they can do. One of the grievances was they 'had given false hope'--some statement released late last week. I think the gist of it was 'we do not have conclusive proof that the plane went down in the search area and we will continue to search'---not much more than that.
If there is some 'bottomless pit' steep crevice under the sea and the plane ended up there---it may well be years, decades until anything can be found. Little comfort to the families of passengers.
How would such a scenario have been different in the US? I suppose lawsuits would have already been filed --certainly the citizens would exercise their rights to voice opinions about the government.
'The State'--not in favor of the State's parental role--anywhere, anytime. jmo.
Now they say the final communication was not --'Good Night--All Right' or vice versa.
Commentator feels this is cause for 'outrage'. Quibbling over exact phrasing--'Good Night, Malaysian 370' still not correct.
'Malaysia Airlines should release the transcript of the exact tapes'--I guess they should--who knows .
Again--whatever others are doing that successfully allows flights to depart and arrive as scheduled--glad that this sort of problem is exceedingly rare.
Commentator feels this is cause for 'outrage'. Quibbling over exact phrasing--'Good Night, Malaysian 370' still not correct.
'Malaysia Airlines should release the transcript of the exact tapes'--I guess they should--who knows .
Again--whatever others are doing that successfully allows flights to depart and arrive as scheduled--glad that this sort of problem is exceedingly rare.
My Father flew for 50 years, real flying for most of it(hand on the stick sitting on his parachute pissing in coke bottles on 7 hour missions to Germany and back escorting B-17s....no autopilot). Fighter pilot in P-40s;P-47s, P-51s, F-86s, F-89s, then an instructor in T-33s, T-37s, T-38s and eventually in his 26-29 years he flew the T-39 Sabreliner to be qualified to get a corporate pilot job when he got out of the Air Force. He flew the Sabreliner and Lear jets and Turbo Commanders. When he stopped flying big planes he flew radio control. He told me he never stopped learning, that it was never possible to know it all when it came to flying.
I have 3 brothers that were all Captains for a major airline and they learned from him and by putting in hours behind the yoke. 2 are now retired with a combined yrs as Captain of 55 years. Both have said they were really alarmed at what qualifies for a pilot. My youngest brother is also a Captain that is in the training department of his airline. He still picks up flts each month but works mostly in a simulator with pilots. He too is appalled at the lack of knowledge line pilots have of all procedures.......and it gets worse each year.
I have 3 brothers that were all Captains for a major airline and they learned from him and by putting in hours behind the yoke. 2 are now retired with a combined yrs as Captain of 55 years. Both have said they were really alarmed at what qualifies for a pilot. My youngest brother is also a Captain that is in the training department of his airline. He still picks up flts each month but works mostly in a simulator with pilots. He too is appalled at the lack of knowledge line pilots have of all procedures.......and it gets worse each year.
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I'm perplexed as to why Malaysia has lied about these details.
MH370: New last words from cockpit: 'Good night Malaysian three seven zero
MH370: New last words: 'Good night Malaysian three seven zero' - CNN.com
I really hope the search area is not based on Malaysian input given so much misinformation.
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I still predict that this will be the 21st Century Titanic. It is very unlikely that it is found before the battery runs out, and once it does....well, it is a proverbial needle in a huge haystack. Sad Indeed....
currently they are looking for the haystack
in a huge pile of haystacks
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I still predict that this will be the 21st Century Titanic. It is very unlikely that it is found before the battery runs out, and once it does....well, it is a proverbial needle in a huge haystack. Sad Indeed....
currently they are looking for the haystack
in a huge pile of haystacks
on a thousand acre farm....
jon_berzerk
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I still predict that this will be the 21st Century Titanic. It is very unlikely that it is found before the battery runs out, and once it does....well, it is a proverbial needle in a huge haystack. Sad Indeed....
currently they are looking for the haystack
in a huge pile of haystacks
on a thousand acre farm....
of haystacks
I guess they now have 5 days before the pinger ceases to work, if it is working at all.
Many suggestions have been made about what can/should be done in the future. Some believe that Boeing should be certain that any airlines that purchases a plane from them be able to conduct an investigation of a catastrophic accident with competence. That sounds good.
Today--it's back to the 'turn had to be deliberate'--required human intervention--so this is a 'criminal' case.
On and on and on.
As far as I am concerned--the culpability goes to Malaysian Airlines--whatever they have to do to 'keep up with' any plane --either do it or get out of the business. Lose contact with a plane--send fighter jets or whatever is available up to find out why. Not much more to be said. Or actually heard--I have heard more than enough.
Many suggestions have been made about what can/should be done in the future. Some believe that Boeing should be certain that any airlines that purchases a plane from them be able to conduct an investigation of a catastrophic accident with competence. That sounds good.
Today--it's back to the 'turn had to be deliberate'--required human intervention--so this is a 'criminal' case.
On and on and on.
As far as I am concerned--the culpability goes to Malaysian Airlines--whatever they have to do to 'keep up with' any plane --either do it or get out of the business. Lose contact with a plane--send fighter jets or whatever is available up to find out why. Not much more to be said. Or actually heard--I have heard more than enough.
A Question.
Would China consider a memorial to those lost on flight 370?
I am inclined to believe --'No' would be the correct response.
'The State'---nothing greater than the State--is that the basic idea upon which China operates? Honoring individuals---just 'not what we do'.
I know I sound ignorant or worse--but I try to learn something.
I suppose there might be an organization in the US or elsewhere that could privately create a foundation for such a project. I know there have been problems with the '911' memorials --but the idea of commemorating the lives lost seems appropriate to me, by Western standards at least.
Some sort of gesture. I doubt that the 'State'/China feels such a gesture is necessary.
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http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...f-searching-for-missing-flight-mh370/?cs=2452
<In a day of significant developments in the search for the lost flight, the Malaysian government announced it won't establish an inquiry until the black box - or flight recorder - is found, something that could take years, if it is even discovered at all.
Australia is set to lead the probe into the missing flight
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ok--certain Malaysia feels justified in its decision. CYA?
Australia sees things differently, I infer. 'WE', global community--are between a rock and a hard place.
Would China consider a memorial to those lost on flight 370?
I am inclined to believe --'No' would be the correct response.
'The State'---nothing greater than the State--is that the basic idea upon which China operates? Honoring individuals---just 'not what we do'.
I know I sound ignorant or worse--but I try to learn something.
I suppose there might be an organization in the US or elsewhere that could privately create a foundation for such a project. I know there have been problems with the '911' memorials --but the idea of commemorating the lives lost seems appropriate to me, by Western standards at least.
Some sort of gesture. I doubt that the 'State'/China feels such a gesture is necessary.
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http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...f-searching-for-missing-flight-mh370/?cs=2452
<In a day of significant developments in the search for the lost flight, the Malaysian government announced it won't establish an inquiry until the black box - or flight recorder - is found, something that could take years, if it is even discovered at all.
Australia is set to lead the probe into the missing flight
>
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ok--certain Malaysia feels justified in its decision. CYA?
Australia sees things differently, I infer. 'WE', global community--are between a rock and a hard place.
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Another bit of 'filler' from the in depth analyses on CNN.
No--the US doesn't have dedicated satellites to cover the Indian Ocean. 'Limited financial resources' is one reason for the lack.
In this same segment the question was posed--'Isn't it time for the US to take over the investigation?'
I hope not--whatever support the US can provide I am in favor of that.
No--the US doesn't have dedicated satellites to cover the Indian Ocean. 'Limited financial resources' is one reason for the lack.
In this same segment the question was posed--'Isn't it time for the US to take over the investigation?'
I hope not--whatever support the US can provide I am in favor of that.
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The scope of the investigation will become more daunting in a matter of days. Without the pinger to signal, it is very confusing how they will be able to locate the plane. Anyone have an idea?
The answer is really 'no' --but 'it is going to be more difficult' is the usual response.
The most sophisticated equipment the US has--and apparently we have the best of whatever is available--really is not designed for this type of search. Primarily designed to search for submarines, iirc. The type of equipment that is actually needed doesn't seem to exist.
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Were airplanes to disappear more often then there'd no doubt be technology developed to look for them.
The person in charge of this effort--an Aussie, I assume---just said--'If we don't find anything on the surface--? in a couple more weeks?--then, we, all parties involved will have to make a difficult decision about what to do next.'
I guess some billionaire needs to make this his personal quest. Search the bottom of the ocean eternally.
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eta: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-mid-air-collision-crowded-search-skies.html
<Dramatic new security measures have been introduced on all Malaysian Airlines flights to ensure that no-one interferes with the controls following the mystery disappearance of flight MH370, it was revealed today.
As speculation continued to rage over whether the plane's fate was due to a criminal act by someone on the Boeing 777, or whether it suffered a catastrophic event that caused it to go out of control, the airline said it had increased cockpit security.
It has added an extra crew member in the cockpit when one of the plane's two pilots takes a bathroom break, ensuring that there are always two officers at the controls.>
ok--certain they have their reasons.
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I am starting to think that the plane is in a hanger somewhere.
The possibilities are that the plane is in a hanger or on the bottom of the ocean. It is 50/50 and since the FBI didn't find anything on the pilot's flight simulator and since the last words of the pilot were changed to be normal, I think the plane is in a hanger somewhere.
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