Major Report in on the benefits of the Vaccine

[CowboyTed]

Thank you for mansplaining that for us idiot. People going for a medical degree have a cursory knowledge of DNA. Unless they've specialized in molecular biology, public health, or immunology, a d

Don't fall into the trap...

Just ask them to refute the original post article with actual evidence and facts...

They are 12 pages in and they are falling apart... They have resorted to gas lighting, insulting, conspiracies, innuendo...

They will try ad get you ina mudslinging fight but lets's not go there...

Just keep asking them for actual studies to show us wrong..

 

[Indeependent]

Your movement has birthed nothing but strife.

Your movement has birthed slums and violence.

 

[Oddball]

Again Conspiracy...

Have you any actual proof linking COVID vaccine to people dying suddenly?

People dying suddenly all the time...

At the moment there is an excess deaths all over the world but it doesn't correlate to vaccine uptake rates... So can you explain why there is no correlation between vaccine uptake rates and excess deaths?
Then please explain why doctors haven't been seeing vaccine reactions flooding into hospitals... They see COVID cases still today (much less because of the vaccine)...

Are you telling us that the whole medical profession is in on this secret... By the way the same doctors and nurses who overwhelmingly got vaccinated worldwide and supported vaccination..

Life insurers have all the evidence....And it doesn't look at all good for media spoon-fed little bootlickers like you.

Your anecdotal "doctors and nurses" can lie up a storm....But the mathematics of actuarial tables don't.

 

[Concerned American]

Uh huh.
Please show the notes that describe that as their methodology.

Do you always babble just to hear yourself babble.

 

[Dragonlady]

Try the definition of SCIENCE, dumbass.. The definition of Science is a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths. Science has nothing to do with "follow (Fauci's) wet dream"

There is your first mistake. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. It has nothing to do with "facts" or "truth", there is simply, "This is what we now know, and believe about this disease".

Scientific knowledge is ever evolving and changing, as events progress and resources evolve. When the virus first appeared, we knew NOTHING about it, or how to treat it. There wasn't even a test for the disease. The Chinese were not exactly in the treat and study business. Sick people were treated worse than criminals there.

The USA didn't follow Fauci's advice at all. And the White House rewrote all of the CDC press releases, even after appointing an unqualified Trump loyalist to head the CDC after the previous Director proved to be too "disloyal" to the President.

We locked down hard for the first 6 months. We cancelled fall fairs, kids sports, and all gatherings for two years. We never ran out of PPE, our hospitals were never overwhelmed, but it was a near thing in some of the cities. And our people didn't politicize the pandemic nor did they carry on about it all like we were living in a NAZI regime.

Every time we watched how YOU were behaving, vilifying Dr. Faucci, and acting like complete idiots over public health measures, we just shook our heads at how stupidly you behaved, and what it has cost you. Trump should be prosecuted for negligent homicide for his "leadership" in this crisis.

 

[Indeependent]

There is your first mistake. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. It has nothing to do with "facts" or "truth", there is simply, "This is what we now know, and believe about this disease".

Scientific knowledge is ever evolving and changing, as events progress and resources evolve. When the virus first appeared, we knew NOTHING about it, or how to treat it. There wasn't even a test for the disease. The Chinese were not exactly in the treat and study business. Sick people were treated worse than criminals there.

The USA didn't follow Fauci's advice at all. And the White House rewrote all of the CDC press releases, even after appointing an unqualified Trump loyalist to head the CDC after the previous Director proved to be too "disloyal" to the President.

We locked down hard for the first 6 months. We cancelled fall fairs, kids sports, and all gatherings for two years. We never ran out of PPE, our hospitals were never overwhelmed, but it was a near thing in some of the cities. And our people didn't politicize the pandemic nor did they carry on about it all like we were living in a NAZI regime.

Every time we watched how YOU were behaving, vilifying Dr. Faucci, and acting like complete idiots over public health measures, we just shook our heads at how stupidly you behaved, and what it has cost you. Trump should be prosecuted for negligent homicide for his "leadership" in this crisis.

You have no citizens compared to the US, you nitwit.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Your movement has birthed slums and violence.

Yet the union endures.

Your methods are far more pointed.

You haven’t seen violence.

 

[Indeependent]

Never will it come to pass.

Yet the union endures.

Your methods are far more pointed.

Do you realize what an ass you just made of yourself?
Violence will always reign in Democrat slums, and you seem thrilled about that.

 

[Oddball]

Don't fall into the trap...

Just ask them to refute the original post article with actual evidence and facts...

They are 12 pages in and they are falling apart... They have resorted to gas lighting, insulting, conspiracies, innuendo...

They will try ad get you ina mudslinging fight but lets's not go there...

Just keep asking them for actual studies to show us wrong..

 

[Concerned American]

Yes evidence based practice....
Simulations on evidence is totally acceptable...

Are you saying the Weather forecast is not based on science?

So now you are trying to equate educated GUESSES with science. LMAO. Still batting zero. Do you think they were "guessing" when they used actual SCIENCE to discover the polio and measles and smallpox VACCINES? Wrong again, or do you intentionally lie just to troll.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you always babble just to hear yourself babble.

Huh…
So you’re a dysfunctional stool sitter as well then. Quite a few of you about.

 

[CowboyTed]

Wrong again, moron. The death rate for all causes has remained constant since AT LEAST 2015.

World Death Rate 1950-2025

Chart and table of the World death rate from 1950 to 2025. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

www.macrotrends.net

Wake up here is the US numbers...

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

image source Introduction Every day, people die of many causes: diseases, accidents, violence, or simply old age. The number of deaths in any given country is usually stable from one year to the next. It is thus

healthfeedback.org

"the comparison of vaccine coverage and excess mortality numbers doesn’t suggest an association between them. If vaccination caused mortality to increase, we would expect to observe two correlations. The first is that the higher the vaccination coverage, the higher the excess mortality; the second is an increase in the number of all-cause deaths as the vaccination campaign progresses."

So the statistics don't support your theory...

How about you get an actual study that shows it... It has been debunked many times but right wing media sources are still pushing it..

The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective; claim that they have caused an "international medical crisis" is baseless

Scientific evidence from clinical trials and safety monitoring indicate that the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. In the first year of the COVID-19 vaccine campaign, these vaccines were estimated to have prevented 19.8 million deaths due to COVID-19. There is no evidence that these...

healthfeedback.org

 

[Oddball]

Does it ever end?

 

[Concerned American]

My post at the start was based on scientific research

A-GAIN. Science is based on the scientific method and deals in FACTS. Facts are linked with what has been PROVEN by the scientific method. NOTHING in your post deals with facts. You're getting boring with your idiotic refusal to accept reality. No matter how many times you repeat the same lies, they are still lies. I know democrats don't believe that but it is a FACT.

 

[Oddball]

 

[CowboyTed]

There are people, children, dying hours after being vaxxed.

Show the evidence... Big statement, back it up...

I have show plenty of peer reviewed material...

Here is another one:

Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study

COVID-19 vaccination has substantially altered the course of the pandemic, saving tens of millions of lives globally. However, inadequate access to vaccines in low-income countries has limited the impact in these settings, reinforcing the need for global vaccine equity and coverage.

www.thelancet.com

Findings​

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you always babble just to hear yourself babble.

I suppose if you struggle with your native language you may see that as babble.

While we wait for the translate…we hydrate.

 

[Concerned American]

Wake up here is the US numbers...

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

What can explain the excess mortality in the U.S. and Europe in 2022?

image source Introduction Every day, people die of many causes: diseases, accidents, violence, or simply old age. The number of deaths in any given country is usually stable from one year to the next. It is thus

healthfeedback.org

"the comparison of vaccine coverage and excess mortality numbers doesn’t suggest an association between them. If vaccination caused mortality to increase, we would expect to observe two correlations. The first is that the higher the vaccination coverage, the higher the excess mortality; the second is an increase in the number of all-cause deaths as the vaccination campaign progresses."

So the statistics don't support your theory...

How about you get an actual study that shows it... It has been debunked many times but right wing media sources are still pushing it..

The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective; claim that they have caused an "international medical crisis" is baseless

Scientific evidence from clinical trials and safety monitoring indicate that the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. In the first year of the COVID-19 vaccine campaign, these vaccines were estimated to have prevented 19.8 million deaths due to COVID-19. There is no evidence that these...

healthfeedback.org

OK, DUMBASS. I'm done lowering myself to your stupidity. You tried to tell everyone in your original post that, but for the vaccine, there would have been 120K more deaths. Then you use the CDC to try to further your lie on excess deaths even though the CDC refuted your original assertion that the vaxx does NOT prevent infection nor spread. Now take it down the road ignoramus--you're making a fool of yourself.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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You hope anyway.

 

[Concerned American]

I suppose if you struggle with your native language you may see that as babble.

While we wait for the translate, we hydrate.
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Your problem is obvious--but all the blame for your idiocy cannot be attributed to alcohol.