Lost Raiders Owner Mark Davis in talks of moving team to san antonio.

[JakeStarkey]

Hey, fart boy, I bet the Raiders move to San Antonio.

yeah and as always you prove what an idiot you are since he is now taliking about las vegas instead.

He's playing off LV, fartboy. But ... LV would be awesome. Only six hours from Salt Lake City. However, only an hour from my home in Central Texas. So it works out either way.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hey, fart boy, I bet the Raiders move to San Antonio.

yeah and as always you prove what an idiot you are since he is now taliking about las vegas instead.

He's playing off LV, fartboy. But ... LV would be awesome. Only six hours from Salt Lake City. However, only an hour from my home in Central Texas. So it works out either way.

see NOW your not trolling for once.of course he is playing off Las Vegas,he has lost LA as leverage so vegas is his NEW city he is using as leverage to get something done in oakland. lol

Vegas is a more realistic option for him than your SA theory the fact Jerry Jones who has a very powerful voice in the NFL and is very influential is opposed to the Raiders coming to SA because it would hurt his cowboys fans base since the raiders just like the cowboys,have a national following..He was very instrumental in getting the Rams back to LA because of his pull and power he has which is why i cant hate the cowboys anymore like i have ever since i was a toddler.

If you think there is any real chance the Raiders will be in SA in the future,better stop smoking that crack. Vegas yes,thats POSSIBLE but highly unlikely as well.but far more realistic than SA though which is as laughable as them going back to LA is. they will either stay in Oakland or move to vegas.I would put money on them staying in Oakland if i were you though because one fact we know for sure,the NFL owners dont want to lose that bay area rivalry with the niners and want him to stay in oakland because oakland unlike st louis,is a very valuable market for the NFL. PLUS more importantly.Davis unlike Kroneke, does not have the money to afford the billion dollar relocation fee Kroneke had to pay to move to LA.

there was never any doubt in my mind Kroneke wouold move to LA because he has the money to easily afford the billion dollar relocation fee he had to pay.Davis on the other hand,does not.Kroneke is the second richest owner in the NFL..He has more money than Spanos and Davis COMBINED.compared to Kronke,Davis and Spanos,are in the poor mans house,they cannot afford the huge relocation fee they would have to pay to relocate a team that teams are required to as kronke did.lol

The owners dont like Mark Davis so they will make sure he stays in oakland with the huge relocation fee they would charge him that he cannot afford like Kroneke was able to.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Fart boy, that's a theory but only that. you are disinfoagent9lost11, so we will give you the credit you deserve, which is 0 0 0.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Fart boy, that's a theory but only that. you are disinfoagent9lost11, so we will give you the credit you deserve, which is 0 0 0.

yep you are a disinfo agent that we know,and sorry to break you heart,those are all FACTS,you know you cant counter them so you dont even bother to address them.way to go and way to dismiss them.

just when i was giving you credit for not trolling,that sure didnt last.

as always,you are doing this-

since you know you are cornered and backed up against the wall.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Opinion: Owner lacks negotiating expertise to build stadium in Oakland


hope things work out for the A'S.

‘Silent’ majority owner of A’s takes over stadium hunt from Lew Wolff

 

[JakeStarkey]

I am in it for San Antonio!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Fart boy, that's a theory but only that. you are disinfoagent9lost11, so we will give you the credit you deserve, which is 0 0 0.

yep you are a disinfo agent that we know,and sorry to break you heart,those are all FACTS,you know you cant counter them so you dont even bother to address them.way to go and way to dismiss them.

just when i was giving you credit for not trolling,that sure didnt last.

as always,you are doing this-

since you know you are cornered and backed up against the wall.

thats what trolls like you always do when you cant counter and address facts,is post smileys,the fact you friends with USMB'S resident troll rightwinger,the biggest liar of them all speaks volumns about you,i have fed you enough as it is,back to the ignore list i had you on years ago.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

that means i have you on ignore troll. I was considering that yesterday until you made that one sensible post so i decided not to,then you went back to trolling again and that made the decision easy as pie to make.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Zinnie as always,does a great job here explaining why the Raiders will stay in Oakland in the very last video. awesome and very encouraging, the one in the link is very informative how Las Vegas will backfire on him.



Mark Davis Oakland Raiders To Las Vegas Moves Put NFL, Team, In Trouble





He called it back then,that the Raiders would be staying in oakland and not move to LA like the LAMESTREAM media tried to get everyone to believe.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

 

[LA RAM FAN]

interesting news on the raiders.sounds good.

Officials give final approval to keep Raiders in Oakland next season

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I knew that we were going to see some more BS from Mark Davis and his Twitter Publicist Vincent Bonsignore this weekend.

This article says even if the NFL owners vote not to allow a move to Vegas he can argue about a violation of anti-trust laws. NOT TRUE!!!

Mark Davis told the NFL that he wants IN-Gress, E-Gress, and Parking.

Where are any of those 3 things in Vegas, San Antonio, Los Angeles, etc.?

The Oakland Coliseum is the only location that offers all 3 of those wants.

So right now it appears Mark Davis is violating anti-trust laws by not negotiating in good faith with the existing location.

He shouldn't be pointing the finger at Lew Wolfe until he can do better.

-Autumn Wind Williams

‪#‎commitmenttooakland‬

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/…/momentum-keeps-buil…/


Lip service to sell out...

http://www.espn.co.uk/…/oakland-raiders-first-season-ticket…

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Viva Las Raiders: Owner Mark Davis to make a commitment to Las Vegas this week


Report: Mark Davis to commit to Raiders Las Vegas move if stadium financing approved this week

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here is why I dont think the Raiders will stay in oakland and not be in Las vegas.these comments below.

Davis will not get approved to Vegas! Going from Bay Area 6th largest market to Vegas number 41 is ridiculous! Sure the gambling may play a part but market is main reason! Rams moving from St Louis number 27 or in 20's to Los Angeles number 2 helps league a lot! Bay Area and LA are powerhouse markets which NFL wants!

the rules for moving have changed a lot since Rams moved to St Louis in 1994! In 1996,rules for moving have become much tougher! Teams have to get approval from owners!

NFL wanted Rams in LA and if need be Chargers as second tenant! I dont believe NFL wants Raiders moving out of Bay Area anymore! St Louis and SD are much smaller markets than bay area! Rams and Chargers were better candidates!

I will believe it when I see it! Hes already violated his promise to work with Oakland! I have a feeling he will get booted as owner! NFL would rather he share with Niners than move to Vegas!

I agree Dean. From the articles I've read, I get the feeling that the other team Owners don't think too highly of Mark Davis. No single Owner has come right out and said so, but that's the feeling I get.

I very much doubt the League and the other Owners will approve Davis moving the Raiders to Las Vegas. But the problem that nags me most is that Davis hasn't done squat to get a new stadium deal done in Oakland.

I think the league is giving Davis just enough rope to hang himself. The AL moved the team without permission. He fucked with the league basically the hole time it's been in existence, tell his passing. His son has no common sense. He goes on public television saying how much he wants to stay in Oakland..Then try to move the team to LA, then Carson. Then he had a fit when he wasn't allowed to move on public TV. Alienating the fans in Oakland. THEN!!! goes back on public TV saying how his main goal is to make something happen in Oakland lmao!!!! Then what's he do!? He starts the hole Los Vegas thing. THEN! THEN!!!! He announces all season tickets have been sold out and they are making a waiting list for next yr!!!! Lol why would you make a waiting list for next yr when your trying to move your team to Los Vegas!? He keeps fucking with the fans. It's going to come back and bite him in the ass.

he HAS violated his promise to work with oakland and since most the owners dont want the Raiders to leave the bay area,they can just use that against him if he does try to leave and say in a court if it came down tothat,that he violated league rules to exhaust all options to work with your city to stay.Plus Davis cant afford the relocation fee kroneke was able to I believe is the case right? lol

I think you nailed it.The way he is fucking with the fans and not exhausting all options to get something done in his market plus the fact the owners dont want them to leave the area,will probably bite him in the ass in the end and he will eventually be forced to sell the team to a bay area investor is what I am thinking.lol

Mark has a major MAJOR hurdle in trying to get out of oakland since like you said,Al moved the team without permission giving the league the middle finger so there is bad blood amongst the owners toward the Davis family because of that that mark has to deal with.lol

Mark not working with oakland to try and get a deal done and lying to everyone saying he wants to stay,will come back to bite him in the end especially since the league was already sore at his dad for moving without permission in the first place.the fact Mark has shown he is no different than his dad in terms of working to try and stay in oakland,he is just burning all his bridges in the process.lol

When you look at both sides of the coin and think about it logically and do what fred roggin always does,think with your head and not with your heart,then it really does appear things will be the way it should have always been the last 34 years plus with the rams back in LA where they belong,Raiders staying in oakland,and chargers staying in SD.

we already talked about why the raiders will stay so as far as the chargers goes the reason i am confidant they will stay as well is spanos now is actually working with the city to try and get something done unlike last year now that the crybaby did not get what he wanted.lol.

I know something about the chargers situation most people around the country outside of LA dont and that is because I listened to roggins LA relocation program he had.

what you wont hear from the rest of the media that Roggin reported that day at the owners meeting is that John Shaw the former GM who was instrumental in getting the Rams to st louis,he approached spanos and told him that he would make more money if he stayed in SD than if he went to LA.

If the Chargers were going to go to LA,last year would have been the ideal time,going in next year being far behind the Rams in getting a fanbase out there has put the chargers way behind the 8 ball if they tried to go there next year. Since Roggin doesnt lie,and the NFL is all about making money,why would Spanos leave SD? lol

the only thing i am confused about and dont understand is how spanos would make more money in SD vs LA as Shaw told him when that was the main reason Kroneke moved the Rams to LA was the value of the franchise tripled making him much richer. You would think the same would happen for spanos as well being in a bigger market.

if you or anyone else here knows the answer on that,I sure would like to hear it so wont be scratching me head in confusion on this.lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here is why I am confidant the Raiders will stay in oakland.

John Mara owner of the NY Giants tweeted-"I'm still hopeful of something in oakland.I feel like a lot of us "owners" feel thats where they belong.
Las vegas is a non starter for most owners as far as a Raiders move there."the casionos" would be a big part of the "owners objections."



Vegas is ranked 41! That would be moronic to move there when you are already in the sixth largest!

Amy Trask said it weeks ago, the Raiders get a loan of $450-$550mil via the City and he instantly has the $$ to build in Oakland! Why pay a $550mil NFL tax and get nothing? Do the same in Oakland and he doubles the franchises value$!

The Davis family need to take a page from Ralph Wilson wife's book. Sell the team and stop playing with the billionaire club of you can't hang.
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newly signed Bruce Irvin tells it like it is-Please Lord dont let us go to Las vegas.He signed to be an OAKLAND Raider.

But hen again, some owners don't want their players being distracted with the Vegas night life. Vegas is a party non residential town.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

With what money does Mark Davis have? literally, when he inherited the team when Al Davis died, his only income is with the Raiders. Sad thing is Mark Davis doesn't have his own sort of business venture, he doesn't even have his own income outside theRaiders organization for christ sakes!!!. Mark Davis that hair cut though!?!?! sheesh he looks like Lloyd Christmas on crack!

Moving the Raiders to Vegas would be the worst idea ever!!!! Yes, Nevada is the No Income tax state, Yes rent is way affordable vs LA & The Bay, I get that! But what price does it come with! Adelson won't pay for the stadium project! It's going to be paid by residents of Las Vegas by using public tax payers money. The stadium won't be privately funded like T-Moble Arena. That's the sad part! Leaving from the 6th largest market to 40th market of America it won't sky rocket the value of the team! real talk. The only reason the Raiders value is ranked 30th in the NFL has nothing to do with the current market they play in... ok! the reason for that is because they haven't been successful for 13 years!!!! From Al Davis neglecting the Raiders by hiring & firing coaches every year instead of giving them time to rebuild, making bad draft picks from Robert Gallery, Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Rolando McClain etc.... The Davis Family has been cancer to the Raiders organization from 2003 till now with Mark Davis inheriting the team after Al died in 2011. Bucky Larson doesn't know shit about running a FUCKIG football team! No NFL owners is going to back him up!!! Mark Davis has no power nor any authority what's so ever. He has no clout! He has no money to move his team to LA, LV, SA, Bangkok, Tiajuana etc... For crying out loud!!! He uses P.F. Changs booth table as his personal office space smh!!! While Reggie McKenzie & the Raiders are in the Raiders headquarters in Alameda. Mark Davis won't put money on the table for any fucking project regardless, he's too cheap & broke!!!! He didn't contribute for the Carson project & what makes everyone think he'll contribute for Vegas if he can't afford a God Damn relocation fee of $550 million.

Speaking of Vegas. The Las Vegas Strip is a touring destination & a great get away vacation for the summer time, but under the strip, homeless folks & heroin addicts live under these flood tunnels underneath The Strip... outside the Strip, there's a darker side of Vegas with over 300 tents from block to block, run down motels, buildings for foreclosure in the northern part & Downtown Vegas! City officials & casino moguls have not contribute a damn thing to help improve communities around Las Vegas! Instead of putting billions & billions of dollars towards building more casinos & hotel resorts, why not give back to the community, why not help the homeless people. Create a non profit organization to help the homeless folks & folks who were incarcerated to get back on their feet & provide them to gain professional job skills build a program to benefit the locals in Las Vegas. Casinos & Hotel resorts doesn't make it better.

Football won't succeed in Vegas!
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[LA RAM FAN]

way to go,get the word out.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

 

[LA RAM FAN]

more reasons why I dont see the Raiders leaving oakland.

But owners voting power can....after Georgia frontiere's stunt back in 95 where she threatened to sue and budget bud Adams leaving big market houston for nashville in 1997..the league drafted out a new antitrust that makes the relocating tougher. The owners may be getting warm to vegas and what the media missed in jerry jones comments. but they know the lessons from the rams and oilers they can't leave the bay.the nfl is market driven and moving a team from a top 10 market and a market where you can have 2 teams is something they cannot lose ...period

 

[LA RAM FAN]

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...m-industry-keeps-strong-momentum.html?ana=fbk

Jerry Jones' interest piqued by Vegas team idea

Vegas is the new carson for the raiders.

here is the main reason i see the raiders staying in oakland.

The bottom line,the NFL knows where the markets are. Vegas would be a huge market! They also have plans for 1 maybe 2 expansion teams in the next 10 years. The market in CA is as strong as ever, that being said, the league would be outside of their minds to allow a team that's already in a powerful market to make the move. Only to put an expansion team right back in the same market. (Cali) Vegas could very well get an NFL team, but as I've said before in regards to Oaktown, it won't be the Raiders.

I dont see the Raiders or chargers leaving their markets for LA or Vegas,they had to lose one market-st louis to get to LA,putting either the chargers or raiders in LA to join the rams would be taking one step backwards after taking one step forward to get there and I dont see either going to vegas either because san diego and oakland are not like st louis,they wont take just any team to replace the chargers or raiders.