LOOK! Mossad just launched another rocket into an empty lot and now they're bonbing Gaza again...

[Shusha]

Israel responds to any harmless firecracker by sending their air force and tanks to injure and kill children and civilians who had nothing to do with the useless actions of a rogue group. The newspaper say the Israeli government knows that the latest firework was not launched by the Hamas government but by a Sunni fundamentalist Salafist group, yet they attack civilians and Gaza government targets. not by Hamas. What is happening is Israeli state terrorism.

Let's not minimize the attacks by calling them "firecrackers", which implies that they are harmless. They are not.

Let's not overstate Israel's response to rocket fire. Israel, in this case, used air strikes on precise targets and moderately injured four combatants and harmed no civilians.

Who is responsible for controlling rogue groups in Gaza? Its government or Israel?

 

[montelatici]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why they think that.

Remove the blockade.

 

[Eloy]

Israel responds to any harmless firecracker by sending their air force and tanks to injure and kill children and civilians who had nothing to do with the useless actions of a rogue group. The newspaper say the Israeli government knows that the latest firework was not launched by the Hamas government but by a Sunni fundamentalist Salafist group, yet they attack civilians and Gaza government targets. not by Hamas. What is happening is Israeli state terrorism.

Let's not minimize the attacks by calling them "firecrackers", which implies that they are harmless. They are not.

Let's not overstate Israel's response to rocket fire. Israel, in this case, used air strikes on precise targets and moderately injured four combatants and harmed no civilians.

Who is responsible for controlling rogue groups in Gaza? Its government or Israel?

The Israel Defense Force always claims to have precise targeting and avoid hurting civilians but we know different.
Hamas ought to do better to control rogue groups but they are operating under a choking Israeli blockade by land, sea, and air.

 

[Juicin]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why.

If you're going to occupy the place

It's no longer a warzone, you have an obligation to carry out police action

Not summary execution

So, explain what that means. That Israel should enter Gaza and arrest people instead of using military strikes? In other words, you think Israel should exert more control?

Not only they should, they have an obligation to as long as they occupy gaza

Indiscriminate killings are an obvious immoral act when the land is functionally yours along with the people in it.

edit - to be clear, if you don't want to risk your boys, then you don't get your arrest

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why.

If you're going to occupy the place

It's no longer a warzone, you have an obligation to carry out police action

Not summary execution

So, explain what that means. That Israel should enter Gaza and arrest people instead of using military strikes? In other words, you think Israel should exert more control?

Not only they should, they have an obligation to as long as they occupy gaza

Indiscriminate killings are an obvious immoral act when the land is functionally yours along with the people in it.

edit - to be clear, if you don't want to risk your boys, then you don't get your arrest

It's not that Israel doesn't want to risk its boys, but rather they no longer occupy Gaza and just cannot send in its police at will. It was very hard and traumatic for Israel to remove 9,000 Jews from Gaza.

 

[Juicin]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why.

If you're going to occupy the place

It's no longer a warzone, you have an obligation to carry out police action

Not summary execution

So, explain what that means. That Israel should enter Gaza and arrest people instead of using military strikes? In other words, you think Israel should exert more control?

Not only they should, they have an obligation to as long as they occupy gaza

Indiscriminate killings are an obvious immoral act when the land is functionally yours along with the people in it.

edit - to be clear, if you don't want to risk your boys, then you don't get your arrest

It's not that Israel doesn't want to risk its boys, but rather they no longer occupy Gaza and just cannot send in its police at will. It was very hard and traumatic for Israel to remove 9,000 Jews from Gaza.

If you control the land sea and air around and in the place

You occupy it

Do you just wake up in the morning with your head shoved taht far up your ass? Or do you have to work at it each day to keep it up there?

It's an open air prison

 

[Eloy]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why.

If you're going to occupy the place

It's no longer a warzone, you have an obligation to carry out police action

Not summary execution

So, explain what that means. That Israel should enter Gaza and arrest people instead of using military strikes? In other words, you think Israel should exert more control?

Not only they should, they have an obligation to as long as they occupy gaza

Indiscriminate killings are an obvious immoral act when the land is functionally yours along with the people in it.

edit - to be clear, if you don't want to risk your boys, then you don't get your arrest

It's not that Israel doesn't want to risk its boys, but rather they no longer occupy Gaza and just cannot send in its police at will. It was very hard and traumatic for Israel to remove 9,000 Jews from Gaza.

Israel continues to occupy Gaza.
Amnesty International: Israel Remains the Occupying Power in Gaza and is Thus Bound By the Law Of Occupation

 

[Shusha]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why they think that.

Remove the blockade.

I knew you were going to say that. The blockade is a response to the rocket fire. Why do you think the removal of the blockade is an appropriate response to war crimes? What do you think the removal of the blockade will accomplish?

 

[Eloy]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why they think that.

Remove the blockade.

I knew you were going to say that. The blockade is a response to the rocket fire. Why do you think the removal of the blockade is an appropriate response to war crimes? What do you think the removal of the blockade will accomplish?

You have some neck to mention war crimes.

 

[Shusha]

The Israel Defense Force always claims to have precise targeting and avoid hurting civilians but we know different.
Hamas ought to do better to control rogue groups but they are operating under a choking Israeli blockade by land, sea, and air.

Thank you for agreeing that Hamas is responsible for what goes on inside the territory it governs. We agree.

 

[Shusha]

Israel continues to occupy Gaza.

There is no good legal argument that this is true. And plenty of arguments against it. The only way to make it true is to change the definition of "occupation". No other nation has every been held to a claim of "occupation" simply for a blockade.

But, that aside, Juicin is calling for Israel to exert MORE control over Gaza. Do you agree or disagree with that? Should Israel remove the authority of the Hamas or the PA governments and exert more control over Gaza with military force?

 

[Juicin]

Israel continues to occupy Gaza.

There is no good legal argument that this is true. And plenty of arguments against it. The only way to make it true is to change the definition of "occupation". No other nation has every been held to a claim of "occupation" simply for a blockade.

But, that aside, Juicin is calling for Israel to exert MORE control over Gaza. Do you agree or disagree with that? Should Israel remove the authority of the Hamas or the PA governments and exert more control over Gaza with military force?

I'm calling for the Israelis to just suck it up

If they don't I as an American can call them animals

If they don't like it they can get out of the land they don't belong

I don't give a **** if they burn 10 schools filled with little jew nazis. Still don't ahve a right to bomb what are in effect your captives.

Surprise the jailed kill the jailers.

 

[Hollie]

I would like any of Team Palestine participating on this thread to tell me what they think the correct response to rocket fire is and defend why they think that.

Remove the blockade.

Why? That won't stop Islamic terrorist attacks. It didn't in 2006 and won't today.

Infidels know what the Hamas charter requires of the Islamic Death Cultists.

 

[Hollie]

Israel continues to occupy Gaza.

There is no good legal argument that this is true. And plenty of arguments against it. The only way to make it true is to change the definition of "occupation". No other nation has every been held to a claim of "occupation" simply for a blockade.

But, that aside, Juicin is calling for Israel to exert MORE control over Gaza. Do you agree or disagree with that? Should Israel remove the authority of the Hamas or the PA governments and exert more control over Gaza with military force?

I'm calling for the Israelis to just suck it up

If they don't I as an American can call them animals

If they don't like it they can get out of the land they don't belong

I don't give a **** if they burn 10 schools filled with little jew nazis. Still don't ahve a right to bomb what are in effect your captives.

Surprise the jailed kill the jailers.

Lovely, lovely folks these Islamic terrorist groupies.

 

[Juicin]

Israel continues to occupy Gaza.

There is no good legal argument that this is true. And plenty of arguments against it. The only way to make it true is to change the definition of "occupation". No other nation has every been held to a claim of "occupation" simply for a blockade.

But, that aside, Juicin is calling for Israel to exert MORE control over Gaza. Do you agree or disagree with that? Should Israel remove the authority of the Hamas or the PA governments and exert more control over Gaza with military force?

I'm calling for the Israelis to just suck it up

If they don't I as an American can call them animals

If they don't like it they can get out of the land they don't belong

I don't give a **** if they burn 10 schools filled with little jew nazis. Still don't ahve a right to bomb what are in effect your captives.

Surprise the jailed kill the jailers.

Lovely, lovely folks these Islamic terrorist groupies.

Groupies, lol

I can count, there are 20 million Jews on this planet. There are 1.5 billion Muslims

As far as I'm concerned if the Muslims want every Jew on this planet but the Americans I don't give a shit. **** em

Not worth a single AMerican life to me, or a single dollar

 

[Eloy]

The Israel Defense Force always claims to have precise targeting and avoid hurting civilians but we know different.
Hamas ought to do better to control rogue groups but they are operating under a choking Israeli blockade by land, sea, and air.

Thank you for agreeing that Hamas is responsible for what goes on inside the territory it governs. We agree.

You know that was not my meaning. Yes Hamas must do better but they cannot be expected to control law and order under the conditions of occupation. Hamas does not condone the actions of rogues and the Israelis are wrong to imperil the safety of ordinary innocent Palestinians.

 

[Meathead]

Here is footage of the deceased. Watch closely:

Before Trying to Fake Civilian Casualties, You May Want to Make Sure The Cameras Aren't Rolling...

 

[P F Tinmore]

So typical of these assholes.

Israeli jets hit Gaza after overnight rocket attack

I have no idea how many times the world will sit back and watch this same story play out over and over and over again. And before hasbara jumps in claiming that false flag attacks do not exist, let's be clear. Israel and the zionist regime has a long and sorted history of false flag terrorism being exposed. And to be even more clear, keep in mind further that these attacks have come against America and her allies. Don't make me list them, try researching for yourself.

 

[Eloy]

Israel continues to occupy Gaza.

There is no good legal argument that this is true. And plenty of arguments against it. The only way to make it true is to change the definition of "occupation". No other nation has every been held to a claim of "occupation" simply for a blockade.

But, that aside, Juicin is calling for Israel to exert MORE control over Gaza. Do you agree or disagree with that? Should Israel remove the authority of the Hamas or the PA governments and exert more control over Gaza with military force?

You neglected to quote my link which explains why we consider Gaza to be occupied:
Amnesty International: Israel Remains the Occupying Power in Gaza and is Thus Bound By the Law Of Occupation

As to Jucin's remark, yes, he is correct; under Article 42 of the Hague Regulations which defines occupation: “Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. "The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.” In interpreting this definition with respect to particular situations, the notion of “effective control” over the territory in question is central. In cases where the occupying power has withdrawn its forces from all or parts of the occupied territory, but has maintained key elements of an occupying power’s authority, this retention of authority can amount to effective control. In such cases, occupation law, or at least the provisions relevant to the powers it continues to exercise, continues to apply."

Israel, then, has a duty to guard the welfare of Palestinians in Gaza no less than the residents of Israel. If this means taking-up the slack in policing Gaza, it should do so. Right now, the Israelis are killing and injuring the people over whom they have a duty to protect.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So typical of these assholes.

Israeli jets hit Gaza after overnight rocket attack

I have no idea how many times the world will sit back and watch this same story play out over and over and over again. And before hasbara jumps in claiming that false flag attacks do not exist, let's be clear. Israel and the zionist regime has a long and sorted history of false flag terrorism being exposed. And to be even more clear, keep in mind further that these attacks have come against America and her allies. Don't make me list them, try researching for yourself.

So Israel shouldn't respond to rocket attacks from Gaza, Mr. Arnold? Is that what you're saying?

They're their jailors

you send in your cops

YOu don't ******* bomb them you asshole

GOd damn you are a terrible person

Do not take the Lord's name in vain like that. The comment does not depict a terrible person. It depicts a person with common sense who is merely stating the obvious.

Here is my 2 cents: If the terrorist group Hamas launches rocket attacks against Israeli citizens and the Arab civilians (who call themselves Palestinians and are not) permit them to use their neighborhoods as launching pads, you cannot request a response from the police. It is a terrorist attack and must be dealt with by the military. If you don't like that or if they don't like that they can always move back to their original homelands namely Egyptian or Saudi Arabia.

The only people keeping them there and acting as Jailers are the Arab nations who keep them there (by refusing to permit them to return) and the Arab terrorists who are using them as political pawns in order to perpetuate the myth that Arabs have a claim to Israeli land.

Fior the reasons I stated it's immoral

If Israel didn't have control of the air/sea/ground borders of the place you would have an easier time with that argument.

But that's not the situation we're talking about

Anyone who thinks what Israel did in this context was justified is a terrible person. No one even got hurt from the rocket attack.

Let me explain this to you. It isn't a matter of whether someone is injured in a rocket attack launched by Hamas (with Arabs providing the launching pad from their own neighborhood, house, school, etc). When Hamas launches a rocket into Israeli territory? They can expect one (maybe more) launched back (return fire). The Arabs (calling themselves Palestinians) are living on Israeli territory. They get to live there but they don't own that land. Israel does. That is why Israel has control of the land, the sea and the air in Israel. BECAUSE IT IS THEIR LAND. Israel is a sovereign nation and a Jewish State.

To be clear, no Mosque / Cathedral /Church building belongs on that land. No claim to Israeli land by any church (Yes, that includes Roman Catholic Vatican) Mosque, or group is valid and should be immediately declared invalid. THROW THEM ALL OUT.

That land belongs to the Jews. Acknowledge it, respect it or get out.

You sure love those BS Israeli talking points.

Where did you get that script?