Look for a new buzzword to appear soon: “momentum.”

[Seymour Flops]

To the degree that he cannot know his OWN motivations? That's what you've claimed.

Laughing....no. That's meaningless, pseudo-medical gibberish is just your emotional imagination offered as fact.

And you don't know what you're talking about.

Joe Biden does on his own motivations. And he's told us why he's dropping out. You just ignored him and replaced his explanation with whatever you choose to make up.

Demonstrating elegantly that evidence is not the basis of your argument.


He didn't step down. He hasn't resigned. He's simply not seeking re-election.

You don't know what you're talking about.

He knows his motivations.

His motivation is that he is incapable of doing the job anymore.

What else would it be? You still haven't given even one single example.

 

[Skylar]

He knows his motivations.
His motivation is that he is incapable of doing the job anymore.

Uh-huh. And isn't this meaningless pseudo-medical batshit also you?

Every Democrat, except you, realized after the debate that Biden doesn't have the mental capacity to understand what his "motivation" is and is not.

If even you're going to ignore your useless conspiracy theories and toss them on the rhetorical midden heap like the garbage they are.....surely you'll understand when I do.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Uh-huh. And isn't this meaningless pseudo-medical batshit also you?

No, it's observation.

If even you're going to ignore your useless conspiracy theories and toss them on the rhetorical midden heap like the garbage they are.....surely you'll understand when I do.

My conspiracy theory as stated in the OP is that the word "momentum" will soon be used over and over in the media to describe Harris' chance to win the presidential election. Are you predicting that this will not happen?

 

[Skylar]

No, it's observation.

Its the Dunning-Kruger effect. With you just talking out of your ass, on a topic you know nothing about, about a man you've never met.

I'll stick with Biden on his own reasoning rather than some internet rando who insists he knows better.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Its the Dunning-Kruger effect. With you just talking out of your ass, on a topic you know nothing about, about a man you've never met.

I'll stick with Biden on his own reasoning rather than some internet rando who insists he knows better.

What reason did he give in that word salad?

I may have nodded off, he was so slowly and painfully reading it.

Will "momentum" be used by the media as a buzzword to hype Kamala's chances, or not?

What say you?

 

[Skylar]

What reason did he give in that word salad?

I may have nodded off, he was so slowly and painfully reading it.

Will "momentum" be used by the media as a buzzword to hype Kamala's chances, or not?

What say you?

So you won't listen to Biden's own explanations. And yet still consider yourself qualified to replace Biden's reasoning with his own departure with whatever you care to imagine?

Look it up.

 

[Seymour Flops]

So you won't listen to Biden's own explanations. And yet still consider yourself qualified to replace Biden's reasoning with his own departure with whatever you care to imagine?

Look it up.

What was his explanation? I saw none in that speech.

All I saw was a rambling teleprompter reading of words clearly not his own. His writers programmed him with platitudes, thinly veiled TDS and praise for the candidate who won zero delegates in the last primary, didn’t even run in this years and all of a sudden is the presumptive nominee without a single vote.

 

[Skylar]

What was his explanation? I saw none in that speech.

All I saw was a rambling teleprompter reading of words clearly not his own. His writers programmed him with platitudes, thinly veiled TDS and praise for the candidate who won zero delegates in the last primary, didn’t even run in this years and all of a sudden is the presumptive nominee without a single vote.

Look it up. You're literally arguing your own willful ignorance, refusing to read or listen to the speech. Or read the letter. Or listen to any call Biden's made. Or listen to any interview given by any of his staff.

And then in the void of your ignorance, insisting you know better. Um, somehow.

That's not how any of this works. No matter how much you believe your imagination is evidence. It isn't.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Look it up. You're literally arguing your own willful ignorance, refusing to read or listen to the speech. Or read the letter. Or listen to any call Biden's made. Or listen to any interview given by any of his staff.

If Biden’s motivation was in any of those you could say what it is,

And then in the void of your ignorance, insisting you know better. Um, somehow.

That's not how any of this works. No matter how much you believe your imagination is evidence. It isn't.

I’m not at all ignorant I know why the mentally declined president dropped out and I don’t have to wait for a mentally declined person to explain it to me.

 

[Skylar]

If Biden’s motivation was in any of those you could say what it is,

So you're just going to double down on the Argument from Ignorance fallacy, where you can't know what Biden's motivations were because you refuse to look at any of his statements on the matter?

Refusing to look at Biden's statements on his own motivation doesn't make them disappear. It merely demonstrates how you're simply too uninformed to have a useful opinion.

Look it up.

I’m not at all ignorant I know why the mentally declined president dropped out and I don’t have to wait for a mentally declined person to explain it to me.

You're offering us meaningless pseudo-medical gibberish that Biden can't know his own motivations. Says who?

Says you, citing yourself of course.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with Biden on Biden's motivations over you, wallowing in the Dunning-Kruger effect citing your imagination as evidence.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Aaaaand, it starts.

How 'bout that, Skylar?

I didn't even have to "wait" to know what would happen.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Simple question: beside the passage of time that Harris sees as all important, what is her path to victory?

Same as the orange bag O' shit's path. Whoever will be the better populist will win.

here’s another: you believe in passage of time? How did you like that quick anointing of Harris after Biden threw in the towel?

I'm apathetic to it. Only magaturds have deep, emotional connections to politicians. Brandon not behaving as an effective candidate was clear. Democrat donors extorted the party into making the change. Shrewd hail Mary? We'll see.

She wasn’t even running three days ago, now she’s “won” the nomination.

Not until the convention.

No possibility the voters might want someone else?

Not until the convention.

 

[Skylar]

So, your whole argument depends entirely on believing that Democratic Party leaders would never lie?

As the last few weeks have demonstrated, my whole argument is that we'd need a few weeks to see how the Harris campaign and polling would settle out.

Can you see now why your demand that I demonstrate a 'path to victory' for Harris less than 24 hours after she became the presumptive democratic nominee was premature and more than a little silly?

 

[Skylar]

Aaaaand, it starts.

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How 'bout that, Skylar?

I didn't even have to "wait" to know what would happen.

Laughing......sure, buddy. You might want to check the actual polls. You know, the polls you demand I cite when you insisted I 'demonstrate a path to victory' for Harris less than 24 hours after she became the presumptive nominee? You know, before any polls had come out after Biden dropped out.

Its the polling data I told you to wait for. To give the new political landscape a couple of weeks to settle out.

And now we see why its wise to just take a breath, get a couple of weeks of polling data, and see how things settle out.

Harris ahead nationally: National : President: general election : 2024 Polls

Harris ahead in key battleground states: 2024 showdown: New polls this weekend in three key battlegrounds in Harris-Trump White House race

With voters in key states finding her smart, fit to govern, and honest: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/10/harris-trump-times-poll-2024-elections-00173505

And trusting Harris with the economy more than Trump. Subscribe to read

This is why your demands were so premature. This is why you should have taken a breath and waited for the polling data.

 

[Seymour Flops]

As the last few weeks have demonstrated, my whole argument is that we'd need a few weeks to see how the Harris campaign and polling would settle out.

Can you see now why your demand that I demonstrate a 'path to victory' for Harris less than 24 hours after she became the presumptive democratic nominee was premature and more than a little silly?

Not at all. I could have guessed what that "path to victory" would look like, and so could've you.*

Her planned path to victory has two parts. Hide and Hype:

Hide.

Hide like a witness in the program. Hide like a hillbilly girl whose uncles have come to stay for Christmas. Never answer a question that hasn't been carefully scripted, preferably on The View.

Hype.

Hope the media can run enough effusive praise that the voters ignore the evidence of their own experiences over the last three and a half years and are somehow motivated enough to put down the bong on election day and vote for her.

It may well work. The media is powerful and hiding is the only way for her to avoid Biden's fate. I only wanted you to admit that this is the strategy. If such an admission is too painful for you, so be it.

*Incorrect grammar, I'm sure, but I don't feel like correcting it.

Laughing......sure, buddy. You might want to check the actual polls. You know, the polls you demand I cite when you insisted I 'demonstrate a path to victory' for Harris less than 24 hours after she became the presumptive nominee? You know, before any polls had come out after Biden dropped out.

Its the polling data I told you to wait for. To give the new political landscape a couple of weeks to settle out.

And now we see why its wise to just take a breath, get a couple of weeks of polling data, and see how things settle out.

Harris ahead nationally: National : President: general election : 2024 Polls

Harris ahead in key battleground states: 2024 showdown: New polls this weekend in three key battlegrounds in Harris-Trump White House race

With voters in key states finding her smart, fit to govern, and honest: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/10/harris-trump-times-poll-2024-elections-00173505

And trusting Harris with the economy more than Trump. Subscribe to read

This is why your demands were so premature. This is why you should have taken a breath and waited for the polling data.

Yes, the above strategy seems to be working. Combine that with an energized vote harvester recruiting team, and she may make it.

God help us.

 

[Skylar]

Not at all. I could have guessed what that "path to victory" would look like, and so could've you.*'

You were demanding i SHOW you a path to victory. With you citing polling data from before Harris dropped out.

Now mere 'guesses' would have sufficed?

Laughing.....backpedalling has an avatar, Seymour. And its you.

Her planned path to victory is this:

Hide.

Hide like a witness in the program. Hide like a hillbilly girl whose uncles have come to stay for Christmas. Never answer a question that hasn't been carefully scripted, preferably on The View.

Hide.....by attending massive rally after massive rally?







Yeah, I don't think 'hide' means what you think it means.

Smiling.....or is this just you 'guessing'?

 

[Seymour Flops]

You were demanding i SHOW you a path to victory. With you citing polling data from before Harris dropped out.

Now mere 'guesses' would have sufficed?

Laughing.....backpedalling has an avatar, Seymour. And its you.

How was knowing that Kamala would use the Hide and Hype strategy a guess, when it was obvous that what would happen?

It's really weird that you think it was OK for the Party to over-ride the voters and annoint a candidate without them having an idea of how she could win.

Hide.....by attending massive rally after massive rally?







Yeah, I don't think 'hide' means what you think it means.

Smiling.....or is this just you 'guessing'?

She's hiding from anyone who might ask her an unscripted question. Meanwhile Donald Trump can stand and answer questions for an hour.

 

[Skylar]

How was knowing that Kamala would use the Hide and Hype strategy a guess, when it was obvous that what would happen?

They're in rally after rally, on a campaign schedule Trump is struggling to even keep up with.

So much for your silly 'hiding' narrative.

Which is almost as silly as your demand that I SHOW you a path to victory for Harris less than 24 hours after she became the presumptive nominee.

And what a difference a couple of weeks makes.

Harris ahead nationally: National : President: general election : 2024 Polls

Harris ahead in key battleground states: 2024 showdown: New polls this weekend in three key battlegrounds in Harris-Trump White House race

With voters in key states finding her smart, fit to govern, and honest: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/10/harris-trump-times-poll-2024-elections-00173505

I'm not saying I told you so. But.....I told you so. This is why you wait for the data.

It's really weird that you think it was OK for the Party to over-ride the voters and annoint a candidate without them having an idea of how she could win.

She's hiding from anyone who might ask her an unscripted question. Meanwhile Donald Trump can stand and answer questions for an hour.

There was 10 days until delegates started voting for the nominee. Name a candidate that delegates would have rallied around faster than Harris? With evidence, please.

Remember, she became the presumptive nominee within about a day. A day.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They're in rally after rally, on a campaign schedule Trump is struggling to even keep up with.

That's bull.

There was 10 days until delegates started voting for the nominee. Name a candidate that delegates would have rallied around faster than Harris? With evidence, please.

Sure. Easy as pie. Try to guess, before you uncover the spoiler. That candidate, who the delegates would have almost certainly voted for absent election interferance by The Party bosses is DRUM ROLL

Joe Biden!

 

[Skylar]

That's bull.

Thats reality. You're just not using much of it in your silly and absurd assessments.







As I said, I don't think 'hide' means what you think it means.

And of course, you're blatantly ignoring the polling data now. Is that because it demonstrates the absurdity of your demands that I show you a path to victory for Harris less than 24 hours after she became the presumptive nominee? Without ANY polling data from after Biden dropped out, let alone a serviceable data set?

Of course it is. I don't mean to tell you I told you so....but I told you so.

Sure. Easy as pie. Try to guess, before you uncover the spoiler. That candidate, who the delegates would have almost certainly voted for absent election interferance by The Party bosses is DRUM ROLL

Joe Biden!

Biden chose to drop out. Says who? That would be Joe Biden.

Give me a better source. You 'guessing' isn't it.