Lois Lerner to take the 5th. Again.

[JoeB131]

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They are indeed a joke. When they were "imposed" it literally drew laughter from the Kremlin. You can tell Putin thinks this is hilarious because of his "counter sanctions" against people like Jay Carney!

Putin isn't playing conservatives...he's playing THIS President!

Putin laughed just as hard when he invaded Georgia and Bush did nothing about it.

Here's the thing. No Americans really want to fight a war over the Crimea.

 

[The Rabbi]

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They are indeed a joke. When they were "imposed" it literally drew laughter from the Kremlin. You can tell Putin thinks this is hilarious because of his "counter sanctions" against people like Jay Carney!

Putin isn't playing conservatives...he's playing THIS President!

Putin laughed just as hard when he invaded Georgia and Bush did nothing about it.

Here's the thing. No Americans really want to fight a war over the Crimea.

Link to Putin laughing at Bush? No.

The majority of people would go to war against an aggressive totalitarian power.

 

[Redfish]

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They are indeed a joke. When they were "imposed" it literally drew laughter from the Kremlin. You can tell Putin thinks this is hilarious because of his "counter sanctions" against people like Jay Carney!

Putin isn't playing conservatives...he's playing THIS President!

Putin laughed just as hard when he invaded Georgia and Bush did nothing about it.

Here's the thing. No Americans really want to fight a war over the Crimea.

Georgia remains an independent country. Putin lost there because he realized that Bush was not a ***** like obama..

 

[JoeB131]

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They are indeed a joke. When they were "imposed" it literally drew laughter from the Kremlin. You can tell Putin thinks this is hilarious because of his "counter sanctions" against people like Jay Carney!

Putin isn't playing conservatives...he's playing THIS President!

Putin laughed just as hard when he invaded Georgia and Bush did nothing about it.

Here's the thing. No Americans really want to fight a war over the Crimea.

Georgia remains an independent country. Putin lost there because he realized that Bush was not a ***** like obama..

Putin didn't lose. He took the parts of Georgia he watned- the parts where RUssians live.

 

[depotoo]

Failed as governor? Her sucess is what scared the Dems into excoriating her with lies and fake law suits.

Provided a rebate to residents to help with heating costs.
Approval rating at the time of her nomination 77%
Cut state spending by 9.5% by the time she left office. 2010 budget contained 33% less spending.
Worked with Legislature to reduce Fed earmark requests by 80%.
Suspended themotor fuel tax
Lowered unemployment taxes for businesses
Decreased state liabilities by over 34%.
Due to her fiscal success the states credit rating was improved.
Spent less than the last 2 governors on travel
There is much more, but I think this can sufficiently show why she was such a threat to the Dems. If any of this has been allowed to properly be heard by voters, Obama may never have been elected.

Now will you get back to Lerner, the subject of the topic, and the one for which the House Oversight Committee has never received all the documents for. A pattern rings true here between these 2- the denial of all the information to be able conclude who someone is.

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That's cute. Palin was so accomplished she scared the crap out of the dems and they succeeded in once again destroying a great candidates chances by filing false suits, digging up any misdeed in her entire family's history, and charged her through enuendo only-just as they do with any gop candidate they fear, because they know if the truth of her accomplishments were ever widely found out, their candidate would not have a chance.

And what the heck does Palin have to do with Lerner? Can't stay on topic because you have lost any argument you might have had?

Actually Oldstyle was the one who brought up Bible Spice by claiming I wasn't a real Republican because I thought she was kind of stupid.

Here accomplishments were being Mayor of Methville, failing miserably as governor, and then failing miserably at being a Fox News commentator.

Now, as Bill Maher said, you thought that would be a good job for her, becuase it's just like her day job, talking to a retarded toddler.

 

[Redfish]

Putin laughed just as hard when he invaded Georgia and Bush did nothing about it.

Here's the thing. No Americans really want to fight a war over the Crimea.

Georgia remains an independent country. Putin lost there because he realized that Bush was not a ***** like obama..

Putin didn't lose. He took the parts of Georgia he watned- the parts where RUssians live.

Yes, russians chose to rejoin russia-----how awful.

what is it that you want us to do?

 

[JoeB131]

Georgia remains an independent country. Putin lost there because he realized that Bush was not a ***** like obama..

Putin didn't lose. He took the parts of Georgia he watned- the parts where RUssians live.

Yes, russians chose to rejoin russia-----how awful.

what is it that you want us to do?

NOthing. THat's my point. There's nothing going on in the former USSR that is really any of our business.

This Ukraine "Crisis" happened because the EU kept enticing folks in the Western Ukraine with all sorts of promises of free money, because look how well that worked out for Greece.

Not to worry, though. The "We Hate Obama And We Are against Whatever he does" club will absolutely say this is Hitler and the Sudetenland all over again, and Obama is Neville Chamberlain and Woe be to us and Sarah Palin is actually smart because she blurted out something about the Ukraine 5 years ago.

 

[JoeB131]

Failed as governor? Her sucess is what scared the Dems into excoriating her with lies and fake law suits.

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There is much more, but I think this can sufficiently show why she was such a threat to the Dems. If any of this has been allowed to properly be heard by voters, Obama may never have been elected.

Guy, this is the same boring stuff every governor does, most of it coming out of the legislature.

And Palin had plenty of oppurtunity to be "properly heard". The problem is, every times she opened her mouth, stupid shit came out of it.

And at the end of the day, she quit to do reality TV and Faux News... both of which she pretty much failed at as well.

As McCain's own people admitted after the election, they failed to properly vet her, she refused to do the simplest preparation for interviews and speeches, and she turned out to be a liability.

Now, to be completely, absolutely fair to Caribou Barbie, I don't think she is what sank McCain. After all, Dan Quayle pretty much beclowed himself after he was picked, and Bush-41 still won. What sank McCain was that Bush had so fouled up the war, the economy and just about everything else that he destroyed the GOP's best commodity- the illusion of competence.

Now will you get back to Lerner, the subject of the topic, and the one for which the House Oversight Committee has never received all the documents for. A pattern rings true here between these 2- the denial of all the information to be able conclude who someone is.

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Um, no, GUy, Issa has all the documentation, he just selectively leaks the stuff that makes Lerner look bad. And then Cummings leaks it in context, and if you aren't a foaming at the mouth Teabagger, you say, "Oh, yeah, that makes sense. The Tea Party WAS trying to defraud the IRS."

 

[Redfish]

Putin didn't lose. He took the parts of Georgia he watned- the parts where RUssians live.

Yes, russians chose to rejoin russia-----how awful.

what is it that you want us to do?

NOthing. THat's my point. There's nothing going on in the former USSR that is really any of our business.

This Ukraine "Crisis" happened because the EU kept enticing folks in the Western Ukraine with all sorts of promises of free money, because look how well that worked out for Greece.

Not to worry, though. The "We Hate Obama And We Are against Whatever he does" club will absolutely say this is Hitler and the Sudetenland all over again, and Obama is Neville Chamberlain and Woe be to us and Sarah Palin is actually smart because she blurted out something about the Ukraine 5 years ago.

we agree that its none of our business. Do we also agree that Putin has bested obama in every international incident over the last few years?

It really boils down to an image thing------Putin looks like a man and a leader-----obama looks like a ***** boy.

 

[JoeB131]

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we agree that its none of our business. Do we also agree that Putin has bested obama in every international incident over the last few years?

It really boils down to an image thing------Putin looks like a man and a leader-----obama looks like a ***** boy.

No, I don't agree to that at all.

If you take off your 'I hate Obama' glasses for five seconds, you realize that Putin didn't get anywhere near what he wanted.

What he wanted was a Ukraine that was pliable to Russia's interests, and he thought he had that in Viktor Yushchenko. Instead an angry mob threw his boy out, and all he got was the Crimea as a consolation prize. As a result of his action (which was forced by internal politics) Russia will probably no longer be part of the G-8 and is going to lose a lot of important trade and investment with the west.

To gain what, 26,000 square miles and 1.9 million more mouths to feed?

Meanwhile, Obama is really no worse off than he was before. Possibly a little better because the EU is having to come to us hat in hand to help resolve this mess they created.

 

[Redfish]

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we agree that its none of our business. Do we also agree that Putin has bested obama in every international incident over the last few years?

It really boils down to an image thing------Putin looks like a man and a leader-----obama looks like a ***** boy.

No, I don't agree to that at all.

If you take off your 'I hate Obama' glasses for five seconds, you realize that Putin didn't get anywhere near what he wanted.

What he wanted was a Ukraine that was pliable to Russia's interests, and he thought he had that in Viktor Yushchenko. Instead an angry mob threw his boy out, and all he got was the Crimea as a consolation prize. As a result of his action (which was forced by internal politics) Russia will probably no longer be part of the G-8 and is going to lose a lot of important trade and investment with the west.

To gain what, 26,000 square miles and 1.9 million more mouths to feed?

Meanwhile, Obama is really no worse off than he was before. Possibly a little better because the EU is having to come to us hat in hand to help resolve this mess they created.

WOW,nice spin attempt. A for effort. But the fact remains that obama is viewed as weak by the world and most americans. Putin is viewed as a strong, but somewhat evil leader. the KGB does not create nice guys.

 

[JoeB131]

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WOW,nice spin attempt. A for effort. But the fact remains that obama is viewed as weak by the world and most americans. Putin is viewed as a strong, but somewhat evil leader. the KGB does not create nice guys.

Guy, outside of the fever swamps of these boards, I haven't talked to one person who cares about the Crimea.

So i'm not sure where you get where "most Americans" think he is weak much less most of the world.

But I do find it amusing that the disease of your Obama hate is so great you are willing to embrace anyone who is against him. Putin. Awalli. Whoever.

I hope Obama is paying rent on all that space in your head he is occupying.

 

[Redfish]

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WOW,nice spin attempt. A for effort. But the fact remains that obama is viewed as weak by the world and most americans. Putin is viewed as a strong, but somewhat evil leader. the KGB does not create nice guys.

Guy, outside of the fever swamps of these boards, I haven't talked to one person who cares about the Crimea.

So i'm not sure where you get where "most Americans" think he is weak much less most of the world.

But I do find it amusing that the disease of your Obama hate is so great you are willing to embrace anyone who is against him. Putin. Awalli. Whoever.

I hope Obama is paying rent on all that space in your head he is occupying.

I am only basing that on polling data from both the US and the world. a majority view obama as a weak and incompetent president.

I don't hate the man, I did not vote for him but I truly hoped that being the first black president he would heal some of the racial wounds in this country, instead he has deepened them. He had a chance to do great things, but instead focused on punishing the country for what he views as its past sins, and ramming a socialistic health plan up our collective asses without any idea of what it would really do to most americans.

Incompetent, inexperienced, biased, marxist, collectivist---------worst president in history. and he could have been something else. Its really sad.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So much for the right’s pointless, partisan, and failed witch-hunt concerning the IRS.

 

[JoeB131]

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I am only basing that on polling data from both the US and the world. a majority view obama as a weak and incompetent president.

Link? (Rasumussen doesn't count.)

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I don't hate the man, I did not vote for him but I truly hoped that being the first black president he would heal some of the racial wounds in this country, instead he has deepened them. He had a chance to do great things, but instead focused on punishing the country for what he views as its past sins, and ramming a socialistic health plan up our collective asses without any idea of what it would really do to most americans.

Incompetent, inexperienced, biased, marxist, collectivist---------worst president in history. and he could have been something else. Its really sad.

The only thing that "deepened" racial wounds were all the people who went apeshit when they saw a black dude in the White House.

And frankly, any conversation that includes words like "Marxist" "collectivist" and "socialistic" really doesn't deserve to be treated like an adult discussion.

So, a "socialistic" medical plan that allows big corporations to continue to pay their CEO's nine-figure salaries and make huge profits off human suffering. Really? This is where you are going?

 

[Redfish]

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I am only basing that on polling data from both the US and the world. a majority view obama as a weak and incompetent president.

Link? (Rasumussen doesn't count.)

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I don't hate the man, I did not vote for him but I truly hoped that being the first black president he would heal some of the racial wounds in this country, instead he has deepened them. He had a chance to do great things, but instead focused on punishing the country for what he views as its past sins, and ramming a socialistic health plan up our collective asses without any idea of what it would really do to most americans.

Incompetent, inexperienced, biased, marxist, collectivist---------worst president in history. and he could have been something else. Its really sad.

The only thing that "deepened" racial wounds were all the people who went apeshit when they saw a black dude in the White House.

And frankly, any conversation that includes words like "Marxist" "collectivist" and "socialistic" really doesn't deserve to be treated like an adult discussion.

So, a "socialistic" medical plan that allows big corporations to continue to pay their CEO's nine-figure salaries and make huge profits off human suffering. Really? This is where you are going?

its actually worse than that. obozocare will cost the average american more money, give him/her less care, and destroy the best medical system in the world.

there will be as many uninsured after full implementation as there were before it was passed.

but, you are correct, the insurance companies are guaranteed their profits---our tax dollars will be used for that.

the sad thing is that there was no problem that needed fixing, no one in the USA was denied medical care before obozocare. NO ONE.

 

[Redfish]

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I am only basing that on polling data from both the US and the world. a majority view obama as a weak and incompetent president.

Link? (Rasumussen doesn't count.)

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I don't hate the man, I did not vote for him but I truly hoped that being the first black president he would heal some of the racial wounds in this country, instead he has deepened them. He had a chance to do great things, but instead focused on punishing the country for what he views as its past sins, and ramming a socialistic health plan up our collective asses without any idea of what it would really do to most americans.

Incompetent, inexperienced, biased, marxist, collectivist---------worst president in history. and he could have been something else. Its really sad.

The only thing that "deepened" racial wounds were all the people who went apeshit when they saw a black dude in the White House.

And frankly, any conversation that includes words like "Marxist" "collectivist" and "socialistic" really doesn't deserve to be treated like an adult discussion.

So, a "socialistic" medical plan that allows big corporations to continue to pay their CEO's nine-figure salaries and make huge profits off human suffering. Really? This is where you are going?

as to your "black dude in the whitehouse" it has nothing to do with obama being half black, it has to do with his policies and ideas. you don't like marxist, collectivist, or socialist, but thats what he is---------read his books, look at his mentors. Its who he is.

 

[JoeB131]

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its actually worse than that. obozocare will cost the average american more money, give him/her less care, and destroy the best medical system in the world.

We have the lowest life expectency in the industrialized world, the highest infant mortality rate, 1 of 4 have inadequate or no insurance, and 62% of bankruptcies are linked to medical crisis. You have a funny notion of "best inthe world"

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there will be as many uninsured after full implementation as there were before it was passed.

No, but if you need to believe that, go ahead.

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but, you are correct, the insurance companies are guaranteed their profits---our tax dollars will be used for that.

the sad thing is that there was no problem that needed fixing, no one in the USA was denied medical care before obozocare. NO ONE.

Yeah, all they had to do was show up at an Emergency Room and get saddled with enormas debt for life!

That was a great system.

 

[JoeB131]

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as to your "black dude in the whitehouse" it has nothing to do with obama being half black, it has to do with his policies and ideas. you don't like marxist, collectivist, or socialist, but thats what he is---------read his books, look at his mentors. Its who he is.

Except big corporations have regained most of what they lost in Bush's recession, he saved the Auto industry and the Banking Industries. For a Marxist, he's making a very poor showing of it.


Sorry, dude, this is why you guys are nuts.

 

[Freewill]

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its actually worse than that. obozocare will cost the average american more money, give him/her less care, and destroy the best medical system in the world.

We have the lowest life expectency in the industrialized world, the highest infant mortality rate, 1 of 4 have inadequate or no insurance, and 62% of bankruptcies are linked to medical crisis. You have a funny notion of "best inthe world"

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there will be as many uninsured after full implementation as there were before it was passed.

No, but if you need to believe that, go ahead.

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but, you are correct, the insurance companies are guaranteed their profits---our tax dollars will be used for that.

the sad thing is that there was no problem that needed fixing, no one in the USA was denied medical care before obozocare. NO ONE.

Yeah, all they had to do was show up at an Emergency Room and get saddled with enormas debt for life!

That was a great system.

We still beat China. But consider this, how many countries have borders such as ours? How many countries have such a diverse make up of peoples? There are no country like the USA.

Besides, it isn't anything to do with our health care it has more to do with our chosen life style.

Woolf and his colleagues say that the problem is less to do with faults in the US health system, and more to do with behaviours that put US citizens at greater risk. "They consume the most calories per person, have higher rates of drug abuse, are less likely to use seat belts, and are more likely to use firearms in acts of violence," says Woolf.
Life expectancy lower in US than other rich countries - health - 17 January 2013 - New Scientist

Besides after 70 they are crappy years anyway. So don't let facts get in the way of hate America first or the fact that you get your information from a Dumb and Dumber actor.

Life Expectancy for Countries | Infoplease.com

Medical expense certainly is a concern, I just wish the government would have done something to make it more affordable for ALL the people not just the ones who had nothing to lose just going to the ER. Too bad the government didn't do something to make a dent in what they said was 46 million Americans without HC. 10 million out of 46 million apparently was their target. What a pathetic waste of time and treasure is Obamacare.