Dr Grump
Platinum Member
Do you know what a food bank is? You don't have them stateside?
If somebody is too proud to go to a foodbank or Salvation Army or local church to get a meal, that's on them. If they want to starve, that's on them.
Lockdown Fans: What Is Your Endgame Plan?
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Do you know what a food bank is? You don't have them stateside?
If somebody is too proud to go to a foodbank or Salvation Army or local church to get a meal, that's on them. If they want to starve, that's on them.
WelfareQueen
Diamond Member
The politicians have certainly been no more in error than the "scientists." The "scientists" such as Fauci were saying it wasn't a big deal just a few months ago. No one knew what this shit was. To pretend otherwise now is kinda foolish.
candycorn
Diamond Member
Last time.
Scientists are saying these draconian measures should remain in place until the virus is eradicated.
According to epidemiological data, that could take anywhere between 2 and 5 years to do.
If we 'follow the science' as you suggest, America would be locked down for half a decade.
Some scientists are saying that. Just like some politicians (namely your blob) were saying we'd have zero cases. Your blob was off by over 1.2 Million shit brains.
Do you really believe that just because a scientist or a politician or an epidemiologist or a LEO says something that is the end of the discussion?
And, to quote your source, what the source said was that surveillance would continue until 2024; that doesn't mean lockdown.
I really wonder how you walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
Dr Grump
Platinum Member
Now these scientists are under political pressure?
Stop assuming shit. Either back it up with data/articles from reputable stories, or STFU. You don't get to create a narrative out of thin air and say it's the way things are. You don't get to go back 80+ years to a European dictatorship and compare it to the US today just because you feel like it. If you have some hard data and facts about scientists doing this stuff, have at it.
WelfareQueen
Diamond Member
Last time.
Scientists are saying these draconian measures should remain in place until the virus is eradicated.
According to epidemiological data, that could take anywhere between 2 and 5 years to do.
If we 'follow the science' as you suggest, America would be locked down for half a decade.
Some scientists are saying that. Just like some politicians (namely your blob) were saying we'd have zero cases. Your blob was off by over 1.2 Million shit brains.
Do you really believe that just because a scientist or a politician or an epidemiologist or a LEO says something that is the end of the discussion?
And, to quote your source, what the source said was that surveillance would continue until 2024; that doesn't mean lockdown.
I really wonder how you walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
Candy still MAD!!!!
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TemplarKormac
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Food banks can't give away food if there's nobody around to produce it, smartass. That requires you to actually, you know, go to work.
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nightengale
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YES, Biden did attack Trump for closing the border to incoming Chinese flights.
Feb 1st, the day after Trump closed border to Chinese flights:
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
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Feb 1
We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.
SO BIDEN DID ATTACK HIM FOR CLOSING THE BORDER.
So did Bernie:
In March, another Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., conspicuously insisted at a Fox News town hall that he wouldn't consider closing the U.S. border to prevent the spread of coronavirus, before condemning what he called the president's xenophobia.
After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune
Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on January 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and...
www.foxnews.com
As to your claim that Trump called the virus a hoax:
In recent days, the Biden team and other Democrats have moved on to other lines of attack, including claiming that Trump once referred to the coronavirus as a "hoax." That claim has been refuted by numerous fact-checkers, including The Post's, which found that Trump was clearly referring to Democrats' efforts to blame him for the pandemic, not the virus itself.
In terms of putting together testing regimens, that was exactly what Trump was attempting to do. But the CDC Messed it up big time, by corrupting the first tests they produced. So we were behind the 8 ball...
CDC Admits It Screwed Up Nation’s First Coronavirus Tests
“It was just tragic,” says Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention admitted Saturday that it broke its own protocol when manufacturing the first coronavirus tests, leading to contamination that delayed the federal government’s efforts to control the outbreak, The New York Times reported. The agency sent tests that did not work to public health labs around the country in February. “It was just tragic,” Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories, told the Times. “All that time when we were sitting there waiting, I really felt like, here we were at one of the most critical junctures in public health history, and the biggest tool in our toolbox was missing.”
I guess you can blame trump for the CDC's failure, as he is the man in charge. But I am not sure there was anything he could do about it at the time.
Trump set up the Task Force and began delegating responsibilities immediately.
Please keep in mind---what was Congress doing st this time? Were they all working away, trying to help their State's get ready for the coming pandemic?
NO, they were knee deep in their long, involved garbage impeachment scam. They were impairing the White House's efforts to control there virus by focusing ALL of the Congress and the nation's efforts towards trying to throw Trump out of office.
It really cracks me up when Nancy and her minions point fingers at Trump for not doing anything, when she herself was in Chinatown, asking the people of San Francisco to come and celebrate, there is no reason to feat CoronaVirus....
Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco’s Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns
February 24th :
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi toured San Francisco's Chinatown Monday to send a message. She said there's no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus concerns.
"That’s what we’re trying to do today is to say everything is fine here," Pelosi said. "Come because precautions have been taken. The city is on top of the situation."
Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco's Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi toured San Francisco’s Chinatown Monday to send a message. She said there’s no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus concerns.
www.nbcbayarea.com
Markle
Diamond Member
Why lie?
Published February 1, 2020
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
By Joe McDonald, Sam McNeil | Associated Press
[...]
On Friday, the United States declared a public health emergency and President Donald Trump and an order barring entry to foreign nationals, other than immediate family of American citizens and permanent residents, who visited China within the last 14 days, which scientists say is the virus’s longest incubation period.
'Unfriendly comments'
China criticized the U.S. controls, which it said contradicted the WHO’s appeal to avoid travel bans, and “unfriendly comments” that Beijing was failing to cooperate.
“Just as the WHO recommended against travel restrictions, the U.S. rushed to go in the opposite way. Certainly not a gesture of goodwill,” said foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying.
WHO Secretary-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva that despite the emergency declaration, there is “no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade.”
[...]
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
China slams Trump's coronavirus travel limits: 'Not a gesture of goodwill'
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FOX NEWS FLASH
Published 1 hour ago [03/17/20]
Dr. Ronny Jackson says Trump prevented American coronavirus pandemic on level of Italy, Iran
By Yael Halon | Fox News
Former White House physician Dr. Ronny Jackson praised President Trump Monday night after he announced a list of guidelines that he and the White House coronavirus task force hoped will slow the spread of the pandemic within 15 days.
"The president has done everything he needed to do in this case," Jackson told "Hannity". "He’s acted quickly and decisively. He did what he always has done ... he went with his instincts."
"He put together a top-notch team and he was criticized.... despite that, he carried on and did what he needed to do for our country. He put the [China] travel ban in place," he added.
Jackson said he does not expect the virus to spread at the rate that it has in places like Italy and Iran due to the president's "quick and decisive actions," notably his decision to restrict travel into the U.S. from China in late January.
Dr. Ronny Jackson says Trump prevented American coronavirus pandemic on level of Italy, Iran
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Published March 18, 2020
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus
The World Health Organization (WHO) is now haunted by a tweet it sent earlier this year when it cited Chinese health officials who claimed there had been no human transmissions of the novel coronavirus within the country yet.
The Jan. 14 tweet came less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic.
"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China," the organization had said.
It also relied on information from Chinese health authorities who have been accused of obscuring facts and figures during the course of the outbreak.
WHO haunted by January tweet saying China found no human transmission of coronavirus
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As an aside, as you know, South Korea has huge plants that manufactured the test. Plus, their population is but a small fraction of our own.
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Bob Blaylock
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I think most of them simply are accepting and believing the lies they are being told, and not even trying to think about the consequences of the policies they they are foolishly being deceived into supporting.
Most are profoundly ignorant, it seems, of basic and what-should-be-obvious principles of mathematics and economics, such that they cannot understand, and in some cases, are willfully fighting against understanding, what the consequences will be of destroying the economy. They pat themselves on the back, and feel good about the lives that they think they are saving from this overhyped disease, with no grasp at all of the lives that will be lost or destroyed because of the economic disaster that they are helping to create.
nightengale
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Oh yah, Thank Goodness. What has been the main objective of the House since the Dems took it over?
While the pandemic was looming in Jan and February, what was the House busy with? Were they advising the State's to begin gathering their medical equipment and helping them procure more hospital beds?
Hmmmm....I wonder what they were up to during that time. I bet it was something really important and helpful to the nation ....*cough* Impeachment...*cough
Bob Blaylock
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There will be no such point. The virus is in the wild, now, and it's never going away. Nearly everyone will develop immunity to it, but there will always be new people being born who are not yet immune until they've been exposed, and have produced antibodies to it, in some cases, developing and recovering from the disease in the process. A few will even continue to die from it, once in a while. There is nothing that we can do to prevent this, and it is certainly not worth destroying our economy in a vain attempt to do so.
candycorn
Diamond Member
Derailing the blob's legislative agenda was enough. The rest of their actions? Lousy.
No they were probably wondering why your blob's State Department was sending supplies to China instead of procuring them for use in the US:
FactChecking Ad About Donating 'Our Masks and Supplies' to China - FactCheck.org
A Democratic group’s ad attacking President Donald Trump leaves the misleading impression that medical equipment donated by U.S.-based organizations and businesses to China early in the global coronavirus outbreak came from the Trump administration.
www.factcheck.org
That your blob was impeached was fine. He was able to go campaigning and golfing instead of leading. It's what he's done since taking office.
Bob Blaylock
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That's what this whole lockdown thing has been about, from the beginning. Make people suffer economically,make them suffer from fear and isolation, and hope to put the blame for this on Trump, so that the Democrats can gain an advantage in the next election cycle. The Democraps are counting on the people to be unbelievably blind and stupid.
It's going to backfire, big time.
I think the vast majority of people now see that the lockdowns were never about protecting us from the disease, and that it is not Trump, nor anyone aligned with him, who is responsible for the social and economic disaster that is being brought down on us.
Bob Blaylock
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Bob Blaylock
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Bob Blaylock
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he thinks he has a guaranteed income. If the economy crashes, I think he will find that his financial security was an illusion, and that he'll wind up homeless and starving just like everyone else.
HappyJoy
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YES, Biden did attack Trump for closing the border to incoming Chinese flights.
Feb 1st, the day after Trump closed border to Chinese flights:
Joe Biden
@JoeBiden
·
Feb 1
We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.
SO BIDEN DID ATTACK HIM FOR CLOSING THE BORDER.
So did Bernie:
In March, another Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., conspicuously insisted at a Fox News town hall that he wouldn't consider closing the U.S. border to prevent the spread of coronavirus, before condemning what he called the president's xenophobia.
After attacking Trump's coronavirus-related China travel ban as xenophobic, Dems and media have changed tune
Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on January 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and...
As to your claim that Trump called the virus a hoax:
In recent days, the Biden team and other Democrats have moved on to other lines of attack, including claiming that Trump once referred to the coronavirus as a "hoax." That claim has been refuted by numerous fact-checkers, including The Post's, which found that Trump was clearly referring to Democrats' efforts to blame him for the pandemic, not the virus itself.
In terms of putting together testing regimens, that was exactly what Trump was attempting to do. But the CDC Messed it up big time, by corrupting the first tests they produced. So we were behind the 8 ball...
CDC Admits It Screwed Up Nation’s First Coronavirus Tests
“It was just tragic,” says Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories.www.thedailybeast.com
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention admitted Saturday that it broke its own protocol when manufacturing the first coronavirus tests, leading to contamination that delayed the federal government’s efforts to control the outbreak, The New York Times reported. The agency sent tests that did not work to public health labs around the country in February. “It was just tragic,” Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories, told the Times. “All that time when we were sitting there waiting, I really felt like, here we were at one of the most critical junctures in public health history, and the biggest tool in our toolbox was missing.”
I guess you can blame trump for the CDC's failure, as he is the man in charge. But I am not sure there was anything he could do about it at the time.
Trump set up the Task Force and began delegating responsibilities immediately.
Please keep in mind---what was Congress doing st this time? Were they all working away, trying to help their State's get ready for the coming pandemic?
NO, they were knee deep in their long, involved garbage impeachment scam. They were impairing the White House's efforts to control there virus by focusing ALL of the Congress and the nation's efforts towards trying to throw Trump out of office.
It really cracks me up when Nancy and her minions point fingers at Trump for not doing anything, when she herself was in Chinatown, asking the people of San Francisco to come and celebrate, there is no reason to feat CoronaVirus....
Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco’s Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns
February 24th :
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi toured San Francisco's Chinatown Monday to send a message. She said there's no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus concerns.
"That’s what we’re trying to do today is to say everything is fine here," Pelosi said. "Come because precautions have been taken. The city is on top of the situation."
Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco's Chinatown Amid Coronavirus Concerns
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi toured San Francisco’s Chinatown Monday to send a message. She said there’s no reason tourists or locals should be staying away from the area because of coronavirus concerns.
That's a lot of shit to not demonstrate that Biden was talking about the swiss cheese johnny come lately China travel ban that Trump imposed after 40 or so other countries had already done so.
Deplorable Yankee
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They have no idea........atleast until cnn tells them what to think
Bob Blaylock
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Those who willingly choose to cower in place, should not expect handouts paid for with taxes taken from those who work.
This goes especially for those subhuman pieces of shit who openly advocate denying people who want to be productive the right to go to work. More than anyone else, they deserve to be left to starve in the streets, to suffer the fate that they are so eager to unjustly impose on others, just to cater to their own cowardice and laziness.
“He who will not work, neither shall he eat.”
And even more so, he who will not let others work, neither shall he eat.
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basquebromance
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stay home like Trump did during Vietnam, my friends!
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