JoeB131
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You should be.
What if your friend takes that gun you gave him and shoots up a pre-school?
Especially when we find out that his long history of mental illness made it illegal for him to buy one himself?
LIVE: Obama giving a splendid lecture/scolding to American peasants on guns! BANNED private sales!
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You should be.
What if your friend takes that gun you gave him and shoots up a pre-school?
Especially when we find out that his long history of mental illness made it illegal for him to buy one himself?
JoeB131
Diamond Member
It matters to someone.
Like for instance, I really don't get terribly upset when a redneck compensating for a small penis gets shot during an argument over who drank the last can of Milwaukee's best.. but I'm sure that person had people in his inbred family tree that do.
The point beign we have too many guns and too much gun violence in this country, and it's too easy for the wrong people to get guns.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
There's an old saying in gambling son. Only gamble what you can afford to lose. We really can't afford to lose rooms full of students because Lanza or Mercer or Cho were statistical outliers.
Statistically insignificant. Your odds of being struck by lighting are better than being shot
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belonging to a militia is not a requirement to own a firearm.
dilloduck
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Why not? Do we need them for cannon fodder in the next war ?
Fishlore
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Hysterical screeching and mass panty-wetting by the gun fetish crowd was pathetically expectable. The complete lack of connection between what Obama is actually doing and what they think he is doing is a great example of the reality gap separating this tiny minority of obsessive rural, over-50 white guys who never went to college from the majority of the American pea pull. It is also good evidence as to why these gun nuts do not have the necessary mental equipment to be allowed access to firearms. If only they would shoot each other instead of boring the rest of us with their rants, America would be a more pleasant place to live.*
* This post is an experiment to see how many Second Amendment Patriots have nothing better to do than respond to a gag. Like the unwed mother, they take seriously what was only poked at them in fun.
* This post is an experiment to see how many Second Amendment Patriots have nothing better to do than respond to a gag. Like the unwed mother, they take seriously what was only poked at them in fun.
Eighty percent of legally owned guns are in rural America.
Ninety five percent of illegal guns are in inner city negro shitholes.
Fishlore
Silver Member
Your insightful claim (do you have a link to support those numbers BTW?) brings up an interesting point: where do those "inner city negro shitholes" get their guns? They sure aren't buying them legally in some Negro Shithole Sporting Goods store in their neighborhood. Studies have shown that guns used in crimes in the Northeast are purchased using straw buyers in VA, GA, SC and FL.
God bless Dixie! In addition to greasy fried food and imbecilic Country Western music, the South is giving the civilized parts of America the tools necessary for psychotics to murder school children. I suppose that doesn't trouble the conscience of those goobers down there as their gun murder rates are the highest while ours are among the lowest.
Hopefully you are intelligent enough to comprehend my answer. It's really easy. Read it slowly so you'll understand.
Most of the guns entering the US today are cheap knockoffs made by shady arms manufacturers in C. Europe.
This is a little complicated so you may have to ask someone to help you understand.
C. European arms manufacturers make cheap knock-off copies of say Glocks. Then these knock-offs are sold to the heroin makers in places like Pakistan. The heroin makers pay the C. European arms manufacturers in uncut heroin. The arms manufacturers now have cheap guns and heroin. They send the dope and guns to the Mexican cartels by the container load. The Mexican cartels smuggle the dope and guns to the gangs in the US. The gangs sell the cheap guns but most importantly the dope to the inner city negroes who pay in US currency. The cartels pay the E. European arms manufacturers in US currency which is sent to offshore accounts.
I'll rephrase:
95% of legitimate guns purchases in the US are made by Whites. They purchase the real thing from quality US and European manufacturers and pay premium prices. These guns are NOT being stolen and used in the vast majority of crimes today. A decade ago some were. You do not see authentic Glocks worth $600 in the inner city negro shitholes being waved around by fifteen year old negro street thugs.
Cheap illegal knockoff guns are smuggled into Mexico along with heroin and sold to Mexican Cartels.
Then the guns/heroin are smuggled into the US every ******* day in every way imaginable. Then the heroin and guns are bought by inner city gangs. The gangs pay the Cartels in US dollars made from selling the heroin and the guns in the inner city negro/Latino/Asian controlled shitholes. Read that again! Understand the money the Cartels gets from the sale of these guns is hardly worth the trouble BUT guns in inner city negro shitholes help keep most of the negroes dealing the heroin somewhat secure from getting murdered by their cousins.
The inner cities are flooded with cheap guns. You can buy a used one for the price of a 'BJ'.
Ten year olds are buying them by selling their sisters to negro gang bangers.
Yes straw purchased guns used to be how the gangs got their guns. That was years ago. When the arms manufacturers and the heroin makers and the cartels got involved 'straw purchases began more a ******* LIB talking point myth than a reality.
Fishlore
Silver Member
That exciting story about illegal guns coming from the heroin trade is unsourced. No surprise there because the fantasy about counterfeit Glocks from Europe is complete bull. If such guns were a significant part of the guns used in crimes, the would show up in the vast police collections of recovered weapons. They don't.
Want some facts? Here's were crime guns come from with a link to the ATF expert who produced the program:
An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars.
Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales
The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS
It is widely believed that our gun nuts live a fantasy world divorced from the horrid reality of gun deaths in our country. This fantastic nonsense about fake guns from Europe being sold to black drug dealers by Mexican cartels proves the point.
Want some facts? Here's were crime guns come from with a link to the ATF expert who produced the program:
An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars.
Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales
The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS
It is widely believed that our gun nuts live a fantasy world divorced from the horrid reality of gun deaths in our country. This fantastic nonsense about fake guns from Europe being sold to black drug dealers by Mexican cartels proves the point.
Fishlore
Silver Member
That exciting story about illegal guns coming from the heroin trade is unsourced. No surprise there because the fantasy about counterfeit Glocks from Europe is complete bull. If such guns were a significant part of the guns used in crimes, the would show up in the vast police collections of recovered weapons. They don't.
Want some facts? Here's were crime guns come from with a link to the ATF expert who produced the program:
An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars.
Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales
The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS
It is widely believed that our gun nuts live a fantasy world divorced from the horrid reality of gun deaths in our country. This fantastic nonsense about fake guns from Europe being sold to black drug dealers by Mexican cartels proves the point.
Want some facts? Here's were crime guns come from with a link to the ATF expert who produced the program:
An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars.
Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales
The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers who either get their guns through illegal transactions with licensed dealers, straw purchases, or from gun thefts. These illegal dealers turn around and sell these illegally on the street. An additional way criminals gain access to guns is family and friends, either through sales, theft or as gifts.
frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS
It is widely believed that our gun nuts live a fantasy world divorced from the horrid reality of gun deaths in our country. This fantastic nonsense about fake guns from Europe being sold to black drug dealers by Mexican cartels proves the point.
Stephanie
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yep, deep down these liberals are red boned fascist. now talk of banning abortions. His actions aren't legal. and they will be in court
Stephanie
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you don't have proof of that BS. not only are you a control freak fascist but a bigot to boot
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