Libs going after patriotic nationalists again

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Libs going after patriotic nationalists again 240229 {post•1} lennypartiv Feb’24 Slgapn inserts extremist Catholic Bishop Robert Barron’s complaint against white Christian nationalists extremism: ---“In their enthusiasm to go against Christian nationalism, they’re actually going against the foundations of our democracy,” he said.---MSN

Libs going after patriotic nationalists again 240302 {post•62} Here is more from Saint Lennypartiv’s extremist Catholic Bishop who obviously supports Republican politicians forcing full term gestation on all women against their will.

Bishop Robert Barron strongly criticized a Politico reporter’s commentary linking belief in divine origins of human rights to dangerous Christian nationalism.​
The reporter claimed this belief, shared by the Founders like Jefferson, is now only held by extremist nationalists.​
Christian nationalists “have a lot of power in Trump’s circle,” Heidi Przybyla said.​
They are united in the belief “that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don’t come from any earthly authority. They don’t come from Congress. They don’t come to the Supreme Court. They come from God.”​
The bishop argued this ignores that grounding rights in God rather than government protects against totalitarianism by preventing rights from being revoked by rulers.​
Saying rights come from transcendent God, as the Founders held, is not religious sectarianism but a foundation of democracy.​
While government secures rights, it does not create them.​
By conflating this with nationalism, the left shows hostility toward religion.​
“First of all, it was Thomas Jefferson who made that claim,” Barron said. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.”​
The bishop warned going down this road jeopardizes viewing rights as permanent rather than subject to shifting political powers.​
“It is exceptionally dangerous when we forget the principle that our rights come from God and not from the government,” he added. “Because the basic problem is if they come from the government (or Congress, or the Supreme Court) they can be taken away by those same people.”​
“This is opening the door to totalitarianism,” Barron said.​
He affirmed Americans should see rights as coming from God, not vulnerable government institutions.​
“This is not some kind of religious nationalism or sectarianism,” he said. “It is one of sanest principles of our democratic governance: that our rights come from God. Yes, government exists to secure these rights — the Declaration says — not to produce them.”​
“In their enthusiasm to go against Christian nationalism, they’re actually going against the foundations of our democracy,” he said.​
“As an American, I want to hold that my rights come not from something as vacillating and unreliable as Congress and the Supreme Court; they come from God,” he added.​

Christians who vote Democrat are numerous. Black Christians are most focused on where their inalienable rights come from. Bishop Robert Barron can shove his Rosary Beads up you know where if he thinks a freaking Catholic white Christian nationalist can interpret Jefferson’s reference to Natures God to be same God that Catholics wirship.


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Citation​

Fred C. Luebke, "The Origins of Thomas Jefferson's Anti-clericalism," Church History 32 (Sept. 1963): 344-56.

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Copyright (c) 1963 Frederick C. Luebke.

Abstract​

Cannibals - mountebanks - charlatans - pious and whining hypocrites - necromancers - pseudo-Christians - mystery mongers. These are among the epithets which Thomas Jefferson applied to the clergy of the Protestant denominations and of the Roman Catholic Church as well. It was they who "perverted" the principles of Jesus "into an engine for enslaving mankind"; it was the Christian "priesthood" who had turned organized religion into a "mere contrivance to filch wealth and power" for themselves; they were the ones who throughout history had persecuted rational men for refusing to swallow "their impious heresies." This attitude of Jefferson, with its sweeping condemnation of all clergymen everywhere, has been largely ignored by historians, even though, as Merrill Peterson has pointed out, Jefferson's religion has been the subject of more articles in the twentieth century than any other topic about him except politics. Most of these have been in response to a growing appreciation of Jefferson's importance in the development of religious and political freedom in America; the majority of them have sought to show that Jefferson was no atheist or infidel, not even a deist, but rather some kind of Christian.1 Hence it is not surprising that studies of his religious ideas usually have glossed over his anti-clericalism and that none of them have given it systematic investigation. It will be the purpose of this paper to show that Jefferson's attitude toward the clergy had its origin in his campaign for the Presidency of the United States in 1800 and that it was a reaction to the slanderous attacks of Federalist clergymen on his personal character and religion.

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Well for hundreds of years the majority of Americans were white and Christians, but the entire nation has certainly never been entirely moral and decent. So don't look at the past through rose colored glasses too much.

With that said, when America was mostly white Christian Americans the country was much better off. We shot up to a world super power in record time, we didn't have mass shooters, we didn't have a divided nation, we didn't have rampant crime like we do now, we didn't have rampant drug problems, we didn't have wide spread homeless, we didn't have unsecure borders, we didn't have Americans at war with each other over other countries or foreign religions, and so on. There is no denying America was better for hundreds of years without those things.

What did have is the vast majority of Americans had American morals, values pride and standards. We had a more unified nation.

Sure, agreed, no one is perfect.

I'm from the 1950s. I dont believe in any gods. Even so, I must say; America was a better country when families went to church on Sunday instead of child friendly drag shows.
 
Now you are hitting diversity freaks where it really hurts

They have been flooding the country with muslims for 20 years

And the muslims are bringing Sharia Law with them
What's your understanding of Sharia Law, and how is it manifested in America?
 

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