ClaireH
Diamond Member
The crux of it all: "At issue is where one is able to articulate a position that negative liberties represent individualism , while positive liberties represent collectivism ."
Politically stated, "At issue is where one is able to articulate a position that negative liberties represent individualism if and only when one does not subscribe to the considerable merits of individualism and only values societies that have immense control over the collective masses.
The real issue seems to be that underlying political differences must weigh in a bit differently to be a fair and accurate assessment about "negative versus positive" liberties. As it stands, you have it slanted left in a big way. It reads like an an appeal for mass conformity, where nothing unique is allowed, and the misperception that "group think" means everyone walks around thinking the same things. Group think only works when people are allowed to disagree. Forming a group with a wide variety of experiences and opinions leads to more brain power than any one person can have alone.
With the current rush to go beyond rebwuke and to cancel various aspects of our political culture will turn out badly I'm afraid. Until the citizens within the states decide they've had enough and get busy be contacting their state reps, we're in for a negative type of liberty situation...forced measures upon the populace don't work long-term.