Liberals: 9-11 Deaths were Good Thing

[Bush92]

How many of "those people" are there? Round up to the nearest 100,000 please. Let's get down to it.

How many? However many are collecting welfare benefits.

Too damn many.

 

[LoneLaugher]

No....no....no. I need a number. How many are there who are too lazy to work and just use yours and my money to live? Let's get a number.

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

 

[ChrisL]

No....no....no. I need a number. How many are there who are too lazy to work and just use yours and my money to live? Let's get a number.

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

 

[Bush92]

Only idiots absolutely desperate for attention on anonymous internet message boards post thread headlines like this:

Liberals: 9-11 Deaths were Good Thing

No, it's what liberal icon Ward Churchill said.

A needy person on welfare is one who cannot work. Perhaps for a temporary or permanent physical disability. Perhaps even a mental disability (though mere liberalism does not, by itself, count).

A lazy person on welfare is one who will not work. Since they'd rather starve than work I see no reason not to accommodate them.

Thanks for that complex, nuanced explaination of systemic poverty and the ways structural forces limit people's abilities to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. For a second there I thought this was a black and white issue (not in a racial way, but as a simply binary). If it weren't for your thoughtful contribution, I might have just gone on thinking this way. Because of you I consider myself enlightened. Praise jah.

And here I had written you off as ineducable due to an overdose of liberal indoctrination!

Contrary to Entitlement Society Rhetoric Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly Disabled or Working Households mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Wrong. The vagueness of "working households" the people work a few hours a week and game the system. These people are rewarded for having children out of we'd lock.

 

[LoneLaugher]

No....no....no. I need a number. How many are there who are too lazy to work and just use yours and my money to live? Let's get a number.

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

 

[tosacco]

Only idiots absolutely desperate for attention on anonymous internet message boards post thread headlines like this:

Liberals: 9-11 Deaths were Good Thing

No, it's what liberal icon Ward Churchill said.

A needy person on welfare is one who cannot work. Perhaps for a temporary or permanent physical disability. Perhaps even a mental disability (though mere liberalism does not, by itself, count).

A lazy person on welfare is one who will not work. Since they'd rather starve than work I see no reason not to accommodate them.

Thanks for that complex, nuanced explaination of systemic poverty and the ways structural forces limit people's abilities to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. For a second there I thought this was a black and white issue (not in a racial way, but as a simply binary). If it weren't for your thoughtful contribution, I might have just gone on thinking this way. Because of you I consider myself enlightened. Praise jah.

And here I had written you off as ineducable due to an overdose of liberal indoctrination!

Contrary to Entitlement Society Rhetoric Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly Disabled or Working Households mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Wrong. The vagueness of "working households" the people work a few hours a week and game the system. These people are rewarded for having children out of we'd lock.

Do you have any proof these people are making calculated, rational, strategic decisions that allow them to "game the system" or are you just speaking from the gut as usual?

 

[ChrisL]

No....no....no. I need a number. How many are there who are too lazy to work and just use yours and my money to live? Let's get a number.

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

 

[tosacco]

No....no....no. I need a number. How many are there who are too lazy to work and just use yours and my money to live? Let's get a number.

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

So you've been talking out of your ass this whole time?

 

[Bush92]

Out of Wedlock Pregnancy Fact Sheet
This is from Tennessee and I will use it as a microsim of American welfare. Notice the dramatic increase between 1980 and 2007. Teens ( at crisis level in Black community) are having babies at an alarming rate with total disregard on the tax paying public. That makes them borderline criminal in their actions. Now, can we get back to the fact that liberals can't defend that fact that their side of political spectrum felt that 9-11 attack was karma coming back to evil Wall Street.

 

[ChrisL]

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

So you've been talking out of your ass this whole time?

Not sure what you're talking about. I'm sure you are aware that there are quite a number of people collecting welfare benefits, and that they are not required to do a thing in order to collect them except to have run out of unemployment, or have no job and a child, while falling below the current poverty guidelines.

Like I said, I don't have the time nor the motivation to look up any numbers right now when all of you are capable of doing so if it's so important to the discussion. Go for it! You aren't retarded, are you?

 

[LoneLaugher]

No....no....no. I need a number. How many are there who are too lazy to work and just use yours and my money to live? Let's get a number.

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

It isn't bait. You have an opportunity to have one of those honest discussions that people crave. You are avoiding the details. Let's figure out the scope of the problem first....then let's talk about fixing it.

I'm in no hurry. Tomorrow.....next week. Anytime will do.

 

[ChrisL]

Most of these guys here getting all defensive are probably collecting welfare themselves. Lol!

 

[ChrisL]

Well too bad for you. If a person is collecting welfare, they should be doing something! Not sitting around collecting other people's money. It isn't like unemployment where you have to prove that you are looking for a job, but it should be! OR they should at least be furthering their education or having job training. SOMETHING to better themselves so that they don't keep ending up on the welfare merry-go-round.

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

It isn't bait. You have an opportunity to have one of those honest discussions that people crave. You are avoiding the derails. Let's figure out the scope of the problem first....then let's talk about fixing it.

I'm in no hurry. Tomorrow.....next week. Anytime will do.

Go look up the numbers then. What's stopping you?

 

[Mustang]

Ward Churchill 9 11 Victims Were Little Eichmanns That Got What They Had Coming Liberal Quote Database
Recently Megan Kelly interviewed former professor and liberal darling Ward Churchill who infamously said that the attacks on the twin towers were acceptable actions. Liberal blogosphere and web sites have been coming to his defense. Also, note the other stories on the tabs to the right on the page I posted. All straight from talking points of Democrats. Nawwww, the Democrats haven't went too far left. Nawwww the socialist haven't taken over the party.
The Justice of Roosting Chickens Ward Churchill Speaks Democracy Now
Here is another leftist site that advocates for Churchill. This mans views would easily fit with the opinions of the lefty bloggers on this board.

I actually know someone who's just finishing up writing a book on Ward Churchill. His research leads him to believe that Churchill was and is a RW operative who's goal it was to discredit the left by various methods including infiltrating leftist groups including groups like AIM.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I really want to have this discussion with you. I want to identify who "those people" are.....and how many of them we have in the USA. Then...let's discuss the job training and educational aspect that you brought up. I am with you on that.

Come on. If you are really interested in this subject, you ought o be interested in determining just how many lazy-assed takers we have.

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

It isn't bait. You have an opportunity to have one of those honest discussions that people crave. You are avoiding the derails. Let's figure out the scope of the problem first....then let's talk about fixing it.

I'm in no hurry. Tomorrow.....next week. Anytime will do.

Go look up the numbers then. What's stopping you?

Are you honestly interested in the number? And the dollar amount?

 

[Bush92]

“As a result of the [9/11] attack and the killing of nearly 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people in their countries… Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America.”
- RosieO'donnell

“Ghastly as it may seem to say this, the [9/11] terror attack — like the original day of infamy, which brought an end to the Great Depression — could even do some economic good.”
- Paul Krugman
“As to those in the World Trade Center . . .

Well, really. Let’s get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America’s global financial empire…

If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I’d really be interested in hearing about it.”
-Ward Churchill

 

[ChrisL]

I already told you who those people are; the ones collecting welfare benefits. I suppose you could always google it to get a number, if there are numbers available. I believe it's quite a number of people though.

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

It isn't bait. You have an opportunity to have one of those honest discussions that people crave. You are avoiding the derails. Let's figure out the scope of the problem first....then let's talk about fixing it.

I'm in no hurry. Tomorrow.....next week. Anytime will do.

Go look up the numbers then. What's stopping you?

Are you honestly interested in the number? And the dollar amount?

Are you?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Please. I am trying to meet you on your turf. You must have a number. How about a dollar amount? How much do we taxpayers fork out to adult, able losers who refuse to work a job? Do you have that number?

I want to pin down the details. Then we can get to dealing with the problem. You with me?

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

It isn't bait. You have an opportunity to have one of those honest discussions that people crave. You are avoiding the derails. Let's figure out the scope of the problem first....then let's talk about fixing it.

I'm in no hurry. Tomorrow.....next week. Anytime will do.

Go look up the numbers then. What's stopping you?

Are you honestly interested in the number? And the dollar amount?

Are you?

Absolutely.

Again. Are you?

 

[tosacco]

Out of Wedlock Pregnancy Fact Sheet
This is from Tennessee and I will use it as a microsim of American welfare. Notice the dramatic increase between 1980 and 2007. Teens ( at crisis level in Black community) are having babies at an alarming rate with total disregard on the tax paying public. That makes them borderline criminal in their actions. Now, can we get back to the fact that liberals can't defend that fact that their side of political spectrum felt that 9-11 attack was karma coming back to evil Wall Street.

please.

Tennessee can't be used as a microcosm for the US. One reason is that it is has regularly been one of the worst states in the nation for high poverty. As of this year its 15%, ranked 40th. Another is its high residential segregation, a long history of red lining (which Wells Fargo went to court for in Tennessee in 2011) as well as the fact that the public schools situated in poor areas (which the black communities are embedded in) have shit funding and pass on poor health education. The convergence of all these factors alongside the long history of systemic, structural racism that has inhibited the black community from overcoming its historic circumstances explain the high rates of welfare in the region way more than your ignorant, half-assed attempt to attribute it to rational choice and strategic action.

 

[ChrisL]

Sorry. I'm not going for your bait. I'm on my dinner break. If you are interested in numbers, I'm sure you are more than capable of finding them and posting them here yourself.

It isn't bait. You have an opportunity to have one of those honest discussions that people crave. You are avoiding the derails. Let's figure out the scope of the problem first....then let's talk about fixing it.

I'm in no hurry. Tomorrow.....next week. Anytime will do.

Go look up the numbers then. What's stopping you?

Are you honestly interested in the number? And the dollar amount?

Are you?

Absolutely.

Again. Are you?

Sorry, gotta get back to work! Obviously you aren't or you would be looking for the data right now. Lol! Unlike you, I'm not on welfare and don't have all day long to look up things on google at another person's whim. I have a to work a full time job to support you and your family. Bye-bye now!!!