Lever actions rifles for self defense

[Oddball]

Screw that, if I'm carrying a long arm I'm carrying a tactical shotgun.

SKO Shorty 12 gauge

DP-12 double barrel 12 gauge

 

[Ringel05]

I've considered a Henry more than once...

Yellow Boy.......

 

[Godboy]

I know many people on here are enamored of the AR rifles. But in many places there is so much regulation and/or bans that looking for an alternative long gun makes since.

Positives:
1) Come in variety of calibers, including some hard hitting thumpers.
2) Specialty ammo, such as ratshot loads, work just fine in a lever gun.
3) Magazine capacity beats most rifles that don't have a detachable magazine.
4) Can be reloaded without taking the rifles out of readiness.
5) Accurate enough out to 100 yards (more with the newer ammo available).
6) Durable in all conditions. They usually have very strong actions.
7) Misfire or jams are easily cleared.
8) Less likely to cause legal problems or interference from law enforcement.

Negatives:
1) Reloading is slower
2) Firing accurately is slightly slower
3) Lower magazine capacity than modern semi-autos.
4) Not as accurate at greater distances (although I'm not sure this is a big deal for home defense).

I owned an AR some years ago. I built it as a coyote gun. It did the trick wonderfully. And it was fun to shoot. But, being raised watching westerns, I have always loved shooting a lever gun. I only own 2 semi auto rifles. I have a Springfield M1A and a Ruger 10/22. The M1A is a great gun and as accurate as I can take advantage of, for sure. But it is 3.5 inches shy of being 4 feet long (44.33") and weighs over 9 lbs empty. My Marlin 1894 is only 38.5 inches long and weighs 6.5 lbs. It holds 10 rounds of .44 Rem Magnum. Now, if I were on a battlefield, the M1A would be my first choice. But in the house, the Marlin wins for the rifles. I own 3 lever guns. And I would trade any of them.

Screw that, if I'm carrying a long arm I'm carrying a tactical shotgun.

SKO Shorty 12 gauge

DP-12 double barrel 12 gauge

 

[Ringel05]

I know many people on here are enamored of the AR rifles. But in many places there is so much regulation and/or bans that looking for an alternative long gun makes since.

Positives:
1) Come in variety of calibers, including some hard hitting thumpers.
2) Specialty ammo, such as ratshot loads, work just fine in a lever gun.
3) Magazine capacity beats most rifles that don't have a detachable magazine.
4) Can be reloaded without taking the rifles out of readiness.
5) Accurate enough out to 100 yards (more with the newer ammo available).
6) Durable in all conditions. They usually have very strong actions.
7) Misfire or jams are easily cleared.
8) Less likely to cause legal problems or interference from law enforcement.

Negatives:
1) Reloading is slower
2) Firing accurately is slightly slower
3) Lower magazine capacity than modern semi-autos.
4) Not as accurate at greater distances (although I'm not sure this is a big deal for home defense).

I owned an AR some years ago. I built it as a coyote gun. It did the trick wonderfully. And it was fun to shoot. But, being raised watching westerns, I have always loved shooting a lever gun. I only own 2 semi auto rifles. I have a Springfield M1A and a Ruger 10/22. The M1A is a great gun and as accurate as I can take advantage of, for sure. But it is 3.5 inches shy of being 4 feet long (44.33") and weighs over 9 lbs empty. My Marlin 1894 is only 38.5 inches long and weighs 6.5 lbs. It holds 10 rounds of .44 Rem Magnum. Now, if I were on a battlefield, the M1A would be my first choice. But in the house, the Marlin wins for the rifles. I own 3 lever guns. And I would trade any of them.

Screw that, if I'm carrying a long arm I'm carrying a tactical shotgun.

SKO Shorty 12 gauge

DP-12 double barrel 12 gauge

Russians are crazy fuckers......

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

That will come in handy when a deer shouts at you from 100 yards away that he is going to rob you.

 

[progressive hunter]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

That will come in handy when a deer shouts at you from 100 yards away that he is going to rob you.

you are such a dumbass,,,

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

That will come in handy when a deer shouts at you from 100 yards away that he is going to rob you.

you are such a dumbass,,,

Just adding a little levity to the thread, whiner. And, you're welcome for the attention.

 

[harmonica]

if the other guy has a semi--you will be outgunned--fire superiority
especially close range/congested areas

 

[harmonica]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

hahhahahahahah-WRONG
they clear with rifles because the majority have rifles--not pistols
hahahhahah
I was in for 8 years---and you?

 

[JGalt]

if the other guy has a semi--you will be outgunned--fire superiority
especially close range/congested areas

There's a good reason why law-enforcement traded in their S&W Model 10 and 19 and Colt revolvers for 15-round semiautomatic pistols. Same with the carbines most of them carry in their cars nowadays. That all changed after the North Hollywood shooters went on their rampage..

North Hollywood shootout - Wikipedia

 

[harmonica]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

also:
...can't hide with a long rifle as easy as with a pistol
...can't aim well without exposing more of your body
...can't aim easier/as fast if you need to stay behind cover
etc etc
...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

hahhahahahahah-WRONG
they clear with rifles because the majority have rifles--not pistols
hahahhahah
I was in for 8 years---and you?

How many structures did you clear in a combat zone?
And that would depend on what branch you were in.
To add to that if the pistol was a better weapon for clearing structures dont you think they would be issued?

 

[harmonica]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

see post # 32

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

This is my lever-action "home defense" rifle. Marlin 336 in .35 Rem.

Haven't figured out how to mount a bayonet on the end though..

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

see post # 32

So you were an REMF.

 

[harmonica]

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

hahhahahahahah-WRONG
they clear with rifles because the majority have rifles--not pistols
hahahhahah
I was in for 8 years---and you?

How many structures did you clear in a combat zone?
And that would depend on what branch you were in.
To add to that if the pistol was a better weapon for clearing structures dont you think they would be issued?

hahahhahahah!!
I can tell you never served
""MOST'' carry rifles in the INFANTRY who do MOST of the fighting!!! --that is the Army and Marines--not the Navy or Air Force !!!!!!!!!!
...the standard issue is the RIFLE!! --plain and simple

 

[harmonica]

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

hahhahahahahah-WRONG
they clear with rifles because the majority have rifles--not pistols
hahahhahah
I was in for 8 years---and you?

How many structures did you clear in a combat zone?
And that would depend on what branch you were in.
To add to that if the pistol was a better weapon for clearing structures dont you think they would be issued?

we trained clearing buildings with RIFLES because we did not have pistols
hahahhahahahhahah

 

[harmonica]

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

see post # 32

So you were an REMF.

The riflemen are the foundation of the Marine infantry organization, and as such are the nucleus of the fire team in the rifle squad,

The Role of a Rifleman in the Marine Corps

 

[harmonica]

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

see post # 32

So you were an REMF.

a. Organic Weapons. Theorganic weapons of the squad are as follows: (1) Squad Leader. M-16 rifle and bayonet knife. (2) Fire Team Leader/Grenadier. M-16 rifle with a 40 mm, M-203 grenade launcher attached and bayonet knife. (3) Automatic Rifleman. Squad automaticweapon (SAW) and combat knife (K-bar). (4) Assistant Automatic Rifleman. M-16 rifle and bayonet knife. (5) Rifleman. M-16 rifle and bayonet knife.
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCWP 3-11.2 Marine Rifle Squad.pdf

 

[harmonica]

duct tape always works,,,

All joking aside, the best home-defense weapon should be able to take a bayonet. If you notice, most rifles in he AR platform still have the bayonet lug on them. Not all, but most. I keep one handy for my AK because nothing says "FUCKYOU" more than a pointy-stabby thing on the end of a shooty thing.

the only problem is in home defense is being able to move around in the house with such a long weapon

Thats easy enough.
As long as you keep it in the high ready position your good.
I can acquire my target every bit as fast with my AR as I can with my FNX .45 tactical.
There's a reason why our military doesn't clear structures with pistols.

see post # 32

So you were an REMF.

Their personnel, however, will stick with the old M4 carbine.

Marines Reorganize Infantry For High-Tech War: Fewer Riflemen, More Drones