Let’s take a look at how Minnesota media is reporting today’s arrest of a man facing first-degree drug charges for possessing over 50 pounds of meth—

[Seymour Flops]

He wasn't allowed to just go.

Is he prevented from dealing meth?

How is he prevented?

 

[pknopp]

Is he prevented from dealing meth?

How is he prevented?

You are the one who wants him released.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are the one who wants him released.

I want him deported. Your side allowed him to just go. He walks free in the United States because your judge prevented ICE from deportingba criminal.

 

[pknopp]

I want him deported.

Right, released.

Your side allowed him to just go. He walks free in the United States because your judge prevented ICE from deportingba criminal.

He isn't walking free but facts and MAGA rarely go hand in hand.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Right, released.


He isn't walking free but facts and MAGA rarely go hand in hand.

Then I go back to the question, is he prevented from dealing meth? If so, how?

If he is not prevented from dealing meth, just be honest and say so.

 

[pknopp]

Then I go back to the question, is he prevented from dealing meth? If so, how?

If he is not prevented from dealing meth, just be honest and say so.

If you think people under house arrest are dealing meth, have at it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you think people under house arrest are dealing meth, have at it.

They are not prevented from dealing meth.

 

[pknopp]

They are not prevented from dealing meth.

You are really stretching trying to defend simply letting them go free.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You are really stretching trying to defend simply letting them go free.

You are defending letting him go free.

I take it that you did not read the OP:

5. Respondents are directed to release Petitioner:

a. In Minnesota;

5 b. With all personal documents and belongings, such as his driver’s license, passport, other immigration documents, and cell phone;

c. Without any conditions on release, including but not limited to requiring Petitioner to sign an “Order of Release on Recognizance” or requiring Petitioner to enroll and complete an “Alternatives to Detention” program;

d. Without any tracking devices or use of a tracking application; and

…. 8. Within thirty (30) days of final judgment in this action, Petitioner may move to recover attorneys’ fees and costs under the Equal Access to Justice Act

 

[White 6]

Was he transporting meth?

The trial has not been held yet, I wasn't there. Were you? Or do you simply convict first to avoid the rush?

 

[White 6]

Warnings for corporate and business concern to not invest in Minnesota and in fact leave it. The path to least resistance is the way to profits and survival. Minneapolis is showing a pattern. The state flag change is proof of a revolutionary coup. Commies.

Commies? You think the state and country are better off with him released without monitoring or random drug testing, and because they followed the state law to prosecute suspected criminals, they are commies?

 

[pknopp]

The trial has not been held yet, I wasn't there. Were you? Or do you simply convict first to avoid the rush?

They've shown no conviction or ruling is needed.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The trial has not been held yet, I wasn't there. Were you? Or do you simply convict first to avoid the rush?

He was caught red-handed with the meth.

Sure, we could spend money on a trial, after which a sympathetic judge would give him a suspended sentence and help him escape from ICE.

But it turns out that he is in the country illegally, so deportation is the optimal solution. Occam's Razor, etc.

Democrats keep whining about Trump not deporting just criminals, but here is one, and the Dems don't want him deported either.

Since there is no pleasing Democrats, best stop trying and do what is best for the country, like getting this guy out of it.

 

[White 6]

He was caught red-handed with the meth.

Sure, we could spend money on a trial, after which a sympathetic judge would give him a suspended sentence and help him escape from ICE.

But it turns out that he is in the country illegally, so deportation is the optimal solution. Occam's Razor, etc.

Democrats keep whining about Trump not deporting just criminals, but here is one, and the Dems don't want him deported either.

Since there is no pleasing Democrats, best stop trying and do what is best for the country, like getting this guy out of it.

You saw this. Cool. Still, you are no judge or jury, there will be a trial, as our constitution requires it, so he is entitled to it, as you would be.

I don't spend anything on his state trial in Minnesota, and neither do you. No federal charges filed on the drugs. So, if they Feds want him for a number, to be simply shipped out, without punishment and without a conviction on his record, that seems a better option than Minnesota prosecuting, to you? He will probably come right back, if kicked out. But, being a Texan, I am sure you do not see much of this and favor catch and release programs. Personally, I think he should be prosecuted, and if convicted serve his sentence, then be held for immigration to pick up, then be shipped out of the country.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You saw this. Cool. Still, you are no judge or jury, there will be a trial, as our constitution requires it, so he is entitled to it, as you would be.

I don't spend anything on his state trial in Minnesota, and neither do you. No federal charges filed on the drugs. So, if they Feds want him for a number, to be simply shipped out, without punishment and without a conviction on his record, that seems a better option than Minnesota prosecuting, to you? He will probably come right back, if kicked out. But, being a Texan, I am sure you do not see much of this and favor catch and release programs. Personally, I think he should be prosecuted, and if convicted serve his sentence, then be held for immigration to pick up, then be shipped out of the country.

A trial is not required in order to deport someone who is in the country illegally.

That is true whether they were caught with fifty pounds of meth or with fifty pounds of canned goods that they were donating to a homeless shelter.

Common sense tells normal people that the guy with the meth should be prioritized for deportation.

 

[White 6]

A trial is not required in order to deport someone who is in the country illegally.

That is true whether they were caught with fifty pounds of meth or with fifty pounds of canned goods that they were donating to a homeless shelter.

Common sense tells normal people that the guy with the meth should be prioritized for deportation.

Another guy flopping with catch and release, rather than even imprison and punish for crimes committed.

 

[Lockback]

A trial is not required in order to deport someone who is in the country illegally.

That is true whether they were caught with fifty pounds of meth or with fifty pounds of canned goods that they were donating to a homeless shelter.

Common sense tells normal people that the guy with the meth should be prioritized for deportation.

Absolutely correct.
How can anybody disagree with that???

 

[Seymour Flops]

Another guy flopping with catch and release, rather than even imprison and punish for crimes committed.

Oh, if I thought there was a realistc probability that Liberal judges and Democrat prosecutors would imprison and punish this guy then it would be a debate over which is optimal, prison or deportation.

But we do not need to wonder whether the criminal justice system would release this guy, because it already has.

So the choice is let him go fee in his home country or let him go free in ours.

 

[White 6]

Oh, if I thought there was a realistc probability that Liberal judges and Democrat prosecutors would imprison and punish this guy then it would be a debate over which is optimal, prison or deportation.

But we do not need to wonder whether the criminal justice system would release this guy, because it already has.

So the choice is let him go fee in his home country or let him go free in ours.

Minnesota has put other people in prison on drug charges. What makes you think he would be found innocent, if they caught him with 57 lb of meth, on a valid stop?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Minnesota has put other people in prison on drug charges. What makes you think he would be found innocent, if they caught him with 57 lb of meth, on a valid stop?

I don't know that they will prosecute, since the prosecutor is almost certainly an anti-ICE Democrat. If they do, the judge may throw out the case on a technicality, or just make up a reason, since the judge is almost certainly an anti-ICE Democrat. Assuming there ever is a trial, with a non-politicized prosecutor and judge. I don't think that he will ever show up for his trial.

Why would he?

His Cartel-financed lawyer would know that for once there is a judge and prosecutor who are serious about prosecuting criminals, even if they have the distinction of being illegal aliens. If he is valuable to the cartel, they will give him new fake identity documents so he can keep serving them. If he is not valuable to the cartel and has become a burden on them, well . . . he might suffer a penalty after all.