Let's indict Obama and Hillary

[Robert W]

There will be no Biden indictments unless they come up with SOMETHING for evidence. So far they have nothing but speculation, and accusations.

Your opinion is based on what. No technology was sold to China by the Biden Administration, the Obama Administration, or anyone else. A lot of American corporations simply handed their proprietary information and trade secrets to the Chinese in exchange for cheap manufacturing, and then saw their products appearing in knock off websites in no time.

The Chinese government are liars, cheats, and utterly dishonest. When you do business with liars and cheats, expect them to lie to you and try to cheat you.


Having watched Trump commit his crimes on social media and in public, no I will not be good with it if he's not convicted. I think it will be a disaster for your country if this criminal is allowed to go free.

What crimes are you discussing?

Was this extortion by Biden a crime?

 

[Robert W]

There will be no Biden indictments unless they come up with SOMETHING for evidence. So far they have nothing but speculation, and accusations.

Your opinion is based on what. No technology was sold to China by the Biden Administration, the Obama Administration, or anyone else. A lot of American corporations simply handed their proprietary information and trade secrets to the Chinese in exchange for cheap manufacturing, and then saw their products appearing in knock off websites in no time.

The Chinese government are liars, cheats, and utterly dishonest. When you do business with liars and cheats, expect them to lie to you and try to cheat you.


Having watched Trump commit his crimes on social media and in public, no I will not be good with it if he's not convicted. I think it will be a disaster for your country if this criminal is allowed to go free.

They have evidence. This is why they will impeach Biden. But his problem starts when prosecutors try him when he leaves office in disgrace.
There were millions of dollars passed to Biden by the Chinese and of course also the Ukrainians. Biden bragged he extorted ukraine.

What you think Trump did never has been a Crime in America.

 

[Dragonlady]

They have evidence. This is why they will impeach Biden. But his problem starts when prosecutors try him when he leaves office in disgrace.
There were millions of dollars passed to Biden by the Chinese and of course also the Ukrainians. Biden bragged he extorted ukraine.

What you think Trump did never has been a Crime in America.

They have ZERO evidence. If they had any evidence they would have indicted by now. If they had evidence that Hillary Clinton jaywalked, they'd charge her.

There is no evidence of a single thing in your post. You have payments from a Chinese company, to a law firm in California. You have payments from the law firm in California to members of the Biden Family, and several holding companies owned by members of the Biden family. You don't even have documents tying the payments from the Chinese energy firm to the Biden family.

You've been investigating the Bidens now for more than 5 years and you have nothing. No evidence whatsoever. You have a tall story that Republicans made up after looking at those two lists you have above. Republicans keep starting with accusations and then looking for evidence to back them up.

Democrats start with the reports of a crime having been committed, and then examine the evidence of that crime and where it leads, before making accusations. When Democrats got the Steel Dossier, they gave it to Republicans, and Republicans made it all public before it was investigated.

Republicans have been investigating the Clintons since 1991, and still no charges. Either Republicans are the WORST investigators who ever lived, or else, the Clintons aren't the criminals Republicans claim they are. Yet you still believe that Bill Clinton is a rapist, and Hillary sold uranium to Russia because she was bribed. You definitely believe Joe Biden fired the prosecutor who was investigating his son Hunter, and that's not true either. Trump made that up.

Wake up man!!!! There is no evidence the Bidens are corrupt. Just a bunch of bullshit stories Republicans made up on no evidence.

Now that the DOJ is moving to indict Hunter on that weapons charge, watch a jury toss that charge too because that charge would NEVER be laid if Hunter's name wasn't Biden.

 

[Dragonlady]

What crimes are you discussing?

Was this extortion by Biden a crime?

No, it wasn't. That was Joe Biden, doing the job NATO and the Obama Administration sent him to the Ukraine to get done - get rid of the corrupt prosecutor, Shokin, or the IMF, the UE, NATO and the USA would not be giving the Ukrainians any aid in fighting the Russians.

No vice President could have EVER done what Biden did on his own, or without the knowledge of the entire NATO, EU community.

How can you be so ill informed and gullible to continue to believe things so easily debunked by history and the facts??????

 

[Robert W]

No, it wasn't. That was Joe Biden, doing the job NATO and the Obama Administration sent him to the Ukraine to get done - get rid of the corrupt prosecutor, Shokin, or the IMF, the UE, NATO and the USA would not be giving the Ukrainians any aid in fighting the Russians.

No vice President could have EVER done what Biden did on his own, or without the knowledge of the entire NATO, EU community.

How can you be so ill informed and gullible to continue to believe things so easily debunked by history and the facts??????

It was blatant corruption by Biden. How dare you try to pin the blame on others., Biden admits he held out cash to fire Shokin.
Shokin was not actually corrupt. He was getting very close to Biden's son. How stinking you try to pin this on NATO.

 

[Lesh]

Exactly!
Why wasn't Bill Clinton indicted for having sex with an intern?
Why wasn't Barack Obama indicted for illegally spying on Trump?
Why wasn't Hillary Clinton indicted for having an illegal server?

Having sex with an adult intern is not illegal
How stupid are you?
Clinton’s server was against RULES not laws

The Obama thing is just bullshit

 

[Robert W]

They have ZERO evidence. If they had any evidence they would have indicted by now. If they had evidence that Hillary Clinton jaywalked, they'd charge her.

There is no evidence of a single thing in your post. You have payments from a Chinese company, to a law firm in California. You have payments from the law firm in California to members of the Biden Family, and several holding companies owned by members of the Biden family. You don't even have documents tying the payments from the Chinese energy firm to the Biden family.

You've been investigating the Bidens now for more than 5 years and you have nothing. No evidence whatsoever. You have a tall story that Republicans made up after looking at those two lists you have above. Republicans keep starting with accusations and then looking for evidence to back them up.

Democrats start with the reports of a crime having been committed, and then examine the evidence of that crime and where it leads, before making accusations. When Democrats got the Steel Dossier, they gave it to Republicans, and Republicans made it all public before it was investigated.

Republicans have been investigating the Clintons since 1991, and still no charges. Either Republicans are the WORST investigators who ever lived, or else, the Clintons aren't the criminals Republicans claim they are. Yet you still believe that Bill Clinton is a rapist, and Hillary sold uranium to Russia because she was bribed. You definitely believe Joe Biden fired the prosecutor who was investigating his son Hunter, and that's not true either. Trump made that up.

Wake up man!!!! There is no evidence the Bidens are corrupt. Just a bunch of bullshit stories Republicans made up on no evidence.

Now that the DOJ is moving to indict Hunter on that weapons charge, watch a jury toss that charge too because that charge would NEVER be laid if Hunter's name wasn't Biden.

The steele dossier is evidence the democrats are corrupt.

Hillary never got approval to install a server in her home and load it up with top secrets. The fact that Comey let her get away with it as did Lerner when she learned is proof of corruption by Democrats.

 

[Lesh]

It was blatant corruption by Biden. How dare you try to pin the blame on others., Biden admits he held out cash to fire Shokin.
Shokin was not actually corrupt. He was getting very close to Biden's son. How stinking you try to pin this on NATO.

Shokin was not actually corrupt?

The fuck he wasn’t

 

[Robert W]

Having sex with an adult intern is not illegal
How stupid are you?
Clinton’s server was against RULES not laws

The Obama thing is just bullshit

What?, she was intimidated into sex with Clinton. Because he was president he did not get put on trial. But he was found guilty in the Paula Jones case and paid a huge penalty to not be prosecuted later. What makes you defend Clinton given how you attack Trump for non crimes?

 

[Robert W]

Shokin was not actually corrupt?

The fuck he wasn’t

No, he actually was not corrupt.

 

[Lesh]

What?, she was intimidated into sex with Clinton. Because he was president he did not get put on trial. But he was found guilty in the Paula Jones case and paid a huge penalty to not be prosecuted later. What makes you defend Clinton given how you attack Trump for non crimes?

She was not intimidated. She was a willing (in fact eager) participant.

So are you lying or stupid?

 

[Robert W]

Having sex with an adult intern is not illegal
How stupid are you?
Clinton’s server was against RULES not laws

The Obama thing is just bullshit

Do you believe it is okay if Biden has sex with interns?

 

[Robert W]

She was not intimidated. She was a willing (in fact eager) participant.

So are you lying or stupid?

She was intimidated by his power as president. I know you are either lying or stupid. I ran across you a few years back and know how you lie.

 

[Lesh]

No, he actually was not corrupt.

Tell us how you came to that conclusion (which is on contrast to all those agencies and organizations… the IMF, the EU, a shitload of GOP Congressmen, the Ukrainian Parliament to name a few)

 

[Lesh]

Do you believe it is okay if Biden has sex with interns?

Not ok but not illegal … also not happening.

That was a stupid question

 

[Robert W]

No, it wasn't. That was Joe Biden, doing the job NATO and the Obama Administration sent him to the Ukraine to get done - get rid of the corrupt prosecutor, Shokin, or the IMF, the UE, NATO and the USA would not be giving the Ukrainians any aid in fighting the Russians.

No vice President could have EVER done what Biden did on his own, or without the knowledge of the entire NATO, EU community.

How can you be so ill informed and gullible to continue to believe things so easily debunked by history and the facts??????

Testamony contradicts your wrong claims.

Tell us how you came to that conclusion (which is on contrast to all those agencies and organizations… the IMF, the EU, a shitload of GOP Congressmen, the Ukrainian Parliament to name a few)

Biden's pal, Devon Archer testified Shokin was not corrupt.
WASHINGTON — Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.

“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

 

[Robert W]

No, it wasn't. That was Joe Biden, doing the job NATO and the Obama Administration sent him to the Ukraine to get done - get rid of the corrupt prosecutor, Shokin, or the IMF, the UE, NATO and the USA would not be giving the Ukrainians any aid in fighting the Russians.

No vice President could have EVER done what Biden did on his own, or without the knowledge of the entire NATO, EU community.

How can you be so ill informed and gullible to continue to believe things so easily debunked by history and the facts??????

Look, you make many claims. And you enjoy making false claims.

Devon Archer testified Biden is guilty. Shokin was not corrupt.
WASHINGTON — Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.

“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

 

[Dragonlady]

Look, you make many claims. And you enjoy making false claims.

Devon Archer testified Biden is guilty. Shokin was not corrupt.
WASHINGTON — Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.

“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

I don't make "many claims" and I back up ever claim I make with links to credible sources.

This shit happened less than 10 years ago and you have no memory of ANY of it????? Why not???? I sure knew about it 10 years ago. I was applauding what Biden did when it happened too. It was all over the news. Why didn't YOU know about it.

Who told you Devon Archer said Biden is guilty???? FOX News??? The Gateway Pundit? Rep. Comer????

Devon Archer EXONERATED Joe Biden. He said Joe never talked business with Hunter when he called, and most of the time he didn't even know who Hunter was with when the talked. He'd say "Hello" to Hunter's dinner companions in a "Hi everyone" kind of way and that was the extend of it.

Devon Archer said that Hunter sold the "sizzle" of access, but it was an illusion. You still have NOTHING. Republicans lied to you again about what he said, and once again, Lucy pulls the football away.

Key Witness Doesn’t Back Up G.O.P.’s Biggest Allegations on Bidens (Published 2023)

The testimony of Devon Archer, a Hunter Biden associate, paints an unflattering portrait of Hunter’s business dealings, but contradicts reports of bribes or material involvement by the president.

www.nytimes.com

Republicans Oversell Archer's Testimony About Hunter and Joe Biden - FactCheck.org

Congressional testimony by Hunter Biden’s former business partner, Devon Archer, on July 31 led to competing narratives about what Archer said, and how damaging his testimony was to President Joe Biden. We sort through the facts.

www.factcheck.org

 

[Dragonlady]

Testamony contradicts your wrong claims.

Biden's pal, Devon Archer testified Shokin was not corrupt.
WASHINGTON — Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.

“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

Whose testimony contradicts anything I posted????

Nothing published in the New York Post or by Tucker Carlson can be trusted to be the truth.

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[Lesh]

Testamony contradicts your wrong claims.

Biden's pal, Devon Archer testified Shokin was not corrupt.
WASHINGTON — Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.

“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

Seizing assets was part of Shokin’s corruption