Let's get one thing straight about Roy Moore

[Faun]

Again, no offense intended, but arguing with a non lawyer about what constitutes “evidence” is a zero sum game for me.

You are obviously not a lawyer because you do not know the difference between an 'accuser' and 'evidence'.

Having a discussion with someone smarter than you is a 'zero sum gain' for you, as has been proven.

Moore’s accusers are witnesses.

Yes, not evidence. The credibility of the witnesses is established in part by EVIDENCE / FACTS. One's CLAIM is neither 'Evidence' or 'fact' until proven BY / WITH EVIDENCE.

LOL

Not at all true. A case can certainly proceed against a defendant based on nothing but the victim’s own personal account, leaving it up to a jury to decide who’s telling the truth. Just ask Mike Tyson and Bill Cosby.

But calm down, Spunky, Roy Moore does not have to worry about that since the statute of limitations has long since expired.

 

[Dim Bulb]

... you can’t change the definition of “evidence.”

I don't have to. 4 women coming forward and accusing someone of a crime is not 'evidence', as you claimed. They are 'accusers' who have to provide 'evidence' that a crime was committed.

You aren't Bill Clinton, and we aren't arguing the definition of the word 'is'. You lose. Next.....

Here we agree. The four women provided evidence. The evidence is their quotes. In the Washington Post story. They are witnesses. Witnesses provide evidence. I thought you were asking “where’s the evidence?” I referred you to the WaPost account of the four women providing stories and you appeared to say that their stories are not evidence. Even when I said that the jury (in this case the voters) decide on the persuasive nature of the evidence. Sounds like we now agree.

 

[rightwinger]

... you can’t change the definition of “evidence.”

I don't have to. 4 women coming forward and accusing someone of a crime is not 'evidence', as you claimed. They are 'accusers' who have to provide 'evidence' that a crime was committed.

You aren't Bill Clinton, and we aren't arguing the definition of the word 'is'. You lose. Next.....

5 women

 

[Boss]

getting a BJ from a 21 year old adult isn't criminal nor is it being a sexual predator

damn you're stupid

*edit* i'll also point out, you sub literate twit, that monica Lewinsky never ever complained about it. it was her so-called friend, linda tripp.... what a disgusting thing to do to a young woman.... make her the center of that. create a situation where all anyone remembers about her is she gave a blow job to the president.

vile deplorables.

Monica was an intern who was half his age! Yes, that is predatory behavior and not only that, there were actual allegations of RAPE against Clinton. It was all hunky-dory for liberals back then. These were called "bimbo eruptions" and dismissed. Not a single one of you ever spoke out against him or his sexual dalliances. Accusations simply didn't constitute guilt or presumption of guilt.... but now they do. Oh, but ONLY if it's a Republican! There is a Democrat member of the House, right now, under criminal investigation for sex trafficking and we've heard not one single peep from you on that. No calls for his resignation, no public outcry.... you simply don't give a shit because he is a Democrat.

 

[Faun]

getting a BJ from a 21 year old adult isn't criminal nor is it being a sexual predator

damn you're stupid

*edit* i'll also point out, you sub literate twit, that monica Lewinsky never ever complained about it. it was her so-called friend, linda tripp.... what a disgusting thing to do to a young woman.... make her the center of that. create a situation where all anyone remembers about her is she gave a blow job to the president.

vile deplorables.

Monica was an intern who was half his age! Yes, that is predatory behavior and not only that, there were actual allegations of RAPE against Clinton. It was all hunky-dory for liberals back then. These were called "bimbo eruptions" and dismissed. Not a single one of you ever spoke out against him or his sexual dalliances. Accusations simply didn't constitute guilt or presumption of guilt.... but now they do. Oh, but ONLY if it's a Republican! There is a Democrat member of the House, right now, under criminal investigation for sex trafficking and we've heard not one single peep from you on that. No calls for his resignation, no public outcry.... you simply don't give a shit because he is a Democrat.

the one woman who accused Clinton of rape testified under oath that he didn’t.

 

[jillian]

There is evidence Hillary broke the law.

According to cretins like you, not the law.

No, dear.

The FBI has thousands of official e-mails and documents they recovered from Hillary's server she never turned in, as per required by the FOIA and the Federal Records Act. Only ignorant / partisan liberals like yourself continue to argue these are not crimes perpetrated by Hillary.

FBI Director Comey himself declared Hillary was extremely negligent'. Last week I posted the exact law, with links, explaining how that is a CRIME. Comey changed his words because he even realized he had just pointed out Hillary had broken the law.

Hillary was proven to have given her maid, someone who had no security clearance, access to classified, asking her to print it out for her. That is a crime.

Destroying classified documents and devices not according to the specific law that governs it is a crime.

The FACT that Hillary ... and others .. broke numerous laws has been presented to delusional / denial nutters like you over and over .Continuing to do so on your part does not make it any less criminal now as when you tried doing so months ago. It just makes you look insanely partisan, overwhelmed by hate, or just nuts.

The problem is not that there is no evidence sufficient enough to convict Hillary, it is that nutters like you are SO partisan that even Hillary's conviction, if it were to happen, would not be proof enough for you that she broke the law.

calling another man, “dear” is creepy and gay. I’d appreciate it if you would please keep your homoerotic fantasies with me to yourself.

That aside, Hillary was never proven guilty of any crime. Your delusions to the contrary are yours to deal with. And sans a criminal conviction, chanting, “lock her up,” as you did, is completely ignoring her presumption of innocence.

And of course, being the abject hypocrite you are, you demand presumption of innocence for Moore.

just to interject yet again, they investigated Hillary Clinton repeatedly, for years. They got nothing. If they could have, they would have.[/QUOTE]
No, dear. It was proven that the Obama administration PROTECTED Hillary. The evidence clearly shows Hillary violated laws.

Your infantile argument changes nothing, no matter how much you cling to it or continue to bring it up.[/QUOTE]

no, snookums, no such thing was every proven. you need to stop making up stuff. seriously.

it's pathetic

 

[easyt65]

Not at all true. A case can certainly proceed against a defendant based on nothing but the victim’s own personal account, leaving it up to a jury to decide who’s telling the truth.

Gee, and how do they make up their mind, what sways them? oh yeah, EVIDENCE. Next

 

[jillian]

getting a BJ from a 21 year old adult isn't criminal nor is it being a sexual predator

damn you're stupid

*edit* i'll also point out, you sub literate twit, that monica Lewinsky never ever complained about it. it was her so-called friend, linda tripp.... what a disgusting thing to do to a young woman.... make her the center of that. create a situation where all anyone remembers about her is she gave a blow job to the president.

vile deplorables.

Monica was an intern who was half his age! Yes, that is predatory behavior and not only that, there were actual allegations of RAPE against Clinton. It was all hunky-dory for liberals back then. These were called "bimbo eruptions" and dismissed. Not a single one of you ever spoke out against him or his sexual dalliances. Accusations simply didn't constitute guilt or presumption of guilt.... but now they do. Oh, but ONLY if it's a Republican! There is a Democrat member of the House, right now, under criminal investigation for sex trafficking and we've heard not one single peep from you on that. No calls for his resignation, no public outcry.... you simply don't give a shit because he is a Democrat.

monica was a 21 year old intern who went to Washington, to "get [her] presidential knee pads.

again, subliterate twit, monica never complained... the cow, linda tripp betrayed a young woman.

 

[edthecynic]

Whe does a daughter get too old to set in dad's lap and to give him a kiss on the cheek? Is the daughter too old when she begins to look Hot?

When she grinds on daddy's lap.

 

[jillian]

getting a BJ from a 21 year old adult isn't criminal nor is it being a sexual predator

damn you're stupid

*edit* i'll also point out, you sub literate twit, that monica Lewinsky never ever complained about it. it was her so-called friend, linda tripp.... what a disgusting thing to do to a young woman.... make her the center of that. create a situation where all anyone remembers about her is she gave a blow job to the president.

vile deplorables.

Monica was an intern who was half his age! Yes, that is predatory behavior and not only that, there were actual allegations of RAPE against Clinton. It was all hunky-dory for liberals back then. These were called "bimbo eruptions" and dismissed. Not a single one of you ever spoke out against him or his sexual dalliances. Accusations simply didn't constitute guilt or presumption of guilt.... but now they do. Oh, but ONLY if it's a Republican! There is a Democrat member of the House, right now, under criminal investigation for sex trafficking and we've heard not one single peep from you on that. No calls for his resignation, no public outcry.... you simply don't give a shit because he is a Democrat.

the one woman who accused Clinton of rape testified under oath that he didn’t.

you know they never let facts get in the way of their ranting....

 

[easyt65]

[no, snookums, no such thing was every proven. you need to stop making up stuff. seriously. it's pathetic

What is pathetic is how much you lie for a traitor and criminal who never has and never will give a damn about you.

Again, I have repeatedly posted links, evidence, actual laws, etc proving Hillary broke laws. You continue to post BS and condescending opinionated gibberish - no evidence to support your continued ignorance.

 

[easyt65]

Whe does a daughter get too old to set in dad's lap and to give him a kiss on the cheek? Is the daughter too old when she begins to look Hot?

When she grinds on daddy's lap.

Oh my God - stop the presses! You did it! A daughter sitting on her father's lap. Call the police. Call the FBI. Call CNN.

Bwuhahahaha.

Desperate, triggered Dims...

 

[Faun]

Not at all true. A case can certainly proceed against a defendant based on nothing but the victim’s own personal account, leaving it up to a jury to decide who’s telling the truth.

Gee, and how do they make up their mind, what sways them? oh yeah, EVIDENCE. Next

Moron... witness testimony IS evidence.

Testimony is considered to be a form of evidence, just as physical objects are considered to be evidence. Testimony thus depends upon the fact that the witness who is giving his or her own testimony has sworn to the testimony’s accuracy and truthfulness.

Testimony - Trial | Laws.com​

 

[rightwinger]

Whe does a daughter get too old to set in dad's lap and to give him a kiss on the cheek? Is the daughter too old when she begins to look Hot?

When she grinds on daddy's lap.

Trump has a noticeable erection

 

[rightwinger]

Whe does a daughter get too old to set in dad's lap and to give him a kiss on the cheek? Is the daughter too old when she begins to look Hot?

When she grinds on daddy's lap.

Oh my God - stop the presses! You did it! A daughter sitting on her father's lap. Call the police. Call the FBI. Call CNN.

Bwuhahahaha.

Desperate, triggered Dims...

Its called a lap dance

 

[easyt65]

Early Comey draft accused Clinton of gross negligence on emails

So why did Comey change the wording of what his FBI found and what he wrote, Jill? Because he realized what he just exposed in his draft was that Hillary violated 18 U.S. Code § 793(e) and (f). (This offense carries a potential penalty of ten years imprisonment.)

Hillary Clinton's Felony. The federal laws violated by the private server

FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook



Sorry 'snookums', you are a proven liar, denier, and apologizer for Hillary Clinton.

- Freedom of Information Act (x over 1500+ criminal counts)
- Federal Records Act (x over 1500+ criminal counts)
- 18 U.S. Code § 793(e) / (f)
...and this is barely scratching the surface.

Not to mention:
- Federal Election Campaign Act
....making it illegal to acquire 'dirt' from a foreign agent and using it in a US election against a US citizen / political opponent, which is what Hillary, Comey, Obama, and the DNC did.

 

[edthecynic]

Moore's accuser is a 53 year old woman, not a 14 year old girl. There is a very good proposition that she is on the DNC payroll. I don't believe any of it happened.

And by "a very good proposition" you mean a twitter account by someone who got caught lying about the number of purple hearts he has.

 

[edthecynic]

If Moore broke the law, he should face the consequences.

The whole point is, he never broke any law. This is just smear, that's all.

The legal age of consent in Alabama, then and now, is 16. Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone older than 12 and younger than 15 has committed sexual abuse in the second degree. Sexual contact is defined as touching of sexual or intimate parts. The crime is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail.

The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

If Moore broke the law, he should face the consequences.

The whole point is, he never broke any law. This is just smear, that's all.

The legal age of consent in Alabama, then and now, is 16. Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone older than 12 and younger than 15 has committed sexual abuse in the second degree. Sexual contact is defined as touching of sexual or intimate parts. The crime is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail.

The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Prove it. That's all. This woman is lying. Now Gloria Allred has her own paid smear queen. Since it's Gloria Allred, that's almost proof positive that the whole thing is a smear.

IF Moore broke the law does not mean Moore broke the law.

 

[edthecynic]

WAPO even admits these two vulturs spent 4 months looking for women to accuse Moore, and if allegations are correct, they also offered to pay for any such allegations.

A thousand bucks for a statement.

A lie started on twitter by a person who got caught lying about how many purple hearts he got!!!