Lefty grooming outfit sends sex change kits to minors. Hide it from parents.

[alang1216]

I don't know, alang. It sounds like you were eager to talk about research and facts, and now you won't accept them.

The study I cited is superior in that it involves people who actually got "gender affirming" surgery and those among them who actuallly committed suicide. It did use a control group.

But suppose you are correct that the evidence is not conclusive. Why are the advocates of gender affirmation treatment for children claiming that it reduces suicide? Are they mastaken or lying?

If you read your article, you'll see that many of the studies it reviews claim that gender affirmation treatment for children reduces suicide. They may or may not be flawed but that is their claim. Who should we believe?

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you read your article, you'll see that many of the studies it reviews claim that gender affirmation treatment for children reduces suicide. They may or may not be flawed but that is their claim. Who should we believe?

The one that is based on facts of people actually getting gender, affirmation, surgery, and people actually who committed suicide.

The other studies are based on “suicidal ideation” and our self reports not hard data.

But – again – if the studies are not conclusive, and we don’t know who to believe, why are the advocates of child sexual mutilation, and chemical castration, claiming that it prevent suicide?

 

[alang1216]

The one that is based on facts of people actually getting gender, affirmation, surgery, and people actually who committed suicide.

The other studies are based on “suicidal ideation” and our self reports not hard data.

I thought the link was to a study of studies and they did not do any actual data collection.

But – again – if the studies are not conclusive, and we don’t know who to believe, why are the advocates of child sexual mutilation, and chemical castration, claiming that it prevent suicide?

Some of the studies claimed that they do in fact lower suicide rates. There seem to be plenty of studies so you can pick and choose which you perfer.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I thought the link was to a study of studies and they did not do any actual data collection.

True, but the study of sex changes and suicides collected hard data.

Some of the studies claimed that they do in fact lower suicide rates. There seem to be plenty of studies so you can pick and choose which you perfer.

Good! So such arguments can be disregarded and we can use common sense.

 

[alang1216]

Good! So such arguments can be disregarded and we can use common sense.

I don't know, SF, it sounds like you were eager to talk about research and facts, and now you won't accept them.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don't know, SF, it sounds like you were eager to talk about research and facts, and now you won't accept them.

I analyze their validity and except the ones that are valid. Or maybe I should say the ones that are most valid.

Do you understand why self reports of suicidal ideation are data not nearly as compelling as actual cases of suicide and actual sex chain surgery?

 

[alang1216]

Do you understand why self reports of suicidal ideation are data not nearly as compelling as actual cases of suicide and actual sex chain surgery?

No I don't. If someone tells you they thought about suicide, you can ask why. If they have already committed suicide it is conjecture as to the why.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No I don't. If someone tells you they thought about suicide, you can ask why. If they have already committed suicide it is conjecture as to the why.

Did they ask "why" in any of those studies? I didn't see where they did.

 

[alang1216]

Did they ask "why" in any of those studies? I didn't see where they did.

Don't know but it is a reasonable assumption since that was the focus of the study. Someone with an incurable cancer probably considers suicide, trans or not.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

True but I wonder about the cause and effect. Does the surgery or other procedure cause the higher suicide rate or is it that those who seek surgery are the most miserable with their situations?


Acceptance would always be the preferred path but for some, I suspect, it is not adequate.

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They found out that pretending to be what you're not doesn't work and it sure doesn't make life a bunch of unicorns and fairy dust. They were lied to by their groomers and the whole sordid process will never make them happy.

Some of them outgrew the phase and then realized that they were sterile.



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[Dragonlady]

Ok, we can put this “They aren’t groomers” lie to rest. This outfit is providing items that do permanent damage to minors while hiding it from parents.

Many of these actions are potentially illegal.

Meet the 'queer' radicals who secretly send kids sex-change kits | Blaze Media

President Donald Trump’s new executive order struck a blow against child sex-change surgery procedures. But it doesn’t address an entire category of radical institutions that groom impressionable children into transgenderism. In 2023 while at the Epoch Times, I interviewed Cielo Sunsarae, a...

www.theblaze.com

The Blaze is another Questionsble Source, as is the Epoch Times.

Chinese propaganda at its finest.

 

[westwall]

If you read your article, you'll see that many of the studies it reviews claim that gender affirmation treatment for children reduces suicide. They may or may not be flawed but that is their claim. Who should we believe?

The studies that have tens of thousands of subjects say otherwise.

The larger the sample size the more accurate.

 

[Nostra]

I did and don't recall anyone charged, tried, or found guilty of breaking an actual law. Just a lot of legal speculation by, seemingly, non-lawyers.

Nobody claimed anyone was charged or found guilty. You are moving the goal posts.

 

[Nostra]

The Blaze is another Questionsble Source, as is the Epoch Times.

Chinese propaganda at its finest.

Feel free to prove this wrong Dragonlady

Your schtick is old and tired…..like you.

 

[westwall]

Nobody claimed anyone was charged or found guilty. You are moving the goal posts.

Of course, he's a lying leftist.

 

[alang1216]

Nobody claimed anyone was charged or found guilty. You are moving the goal posts.

So, the link claims laws were broken, yet no one is ever even accused by the police or the judiciary of breaking them? There are no goal posts since the game is imaginary.

 

[Trickster]

We went from no trans children to using pronouns as a form of child abuse.

The goal is to sterilize as many children as possible.

Pronouns are not that big of a deal.

 

[Dragonlady]

Feel free to prove this wrong Dragonlady

Your schtick is old and tired…..like you.

It’s not up to me to prove you wrong, it’s up to you to use credible sources and not fake news sites. Otherwise you’re not going to be believed.

 

[Dragonlady]

Nobody claimed anyone was charged or found guilty. You are moving the goal posts.

There were never any goal posts to move. The accounts were totally fictionalized and published by fake news sites.

You keep linking to sources that can’t pass a fact track and expecting us to swallow their garbage whole.

By the way, when did they do studies with 10,000 participants? Where did they find 10,000 trans teenagers to study.

Given that trans people of all ages are less than 1% of the Anerican population. How did they find 10,000 trans teenagers to study?

You may be that stupid and gullible but the rest of us are not, FuckBoi.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Pronouns are not that big of a deal.

Except when they can be used to take someone's child.