Leftism as a religion?

[Votto]

Leftism, the Religion | National Review

Is Lefitism a religion?

 

[TheOldSchool]

No

 

[Moonglow]

God, another set of idiots who can't define what a leftist is and tries to scramble words like an omlette...At least the omelette has a purpose..

 

[Votto]

No

Do you find it curious that Orthodox Catholics and Jews are conservative, but those who basically don't practice are left winged?

It would seem to me that it is all about the ideology you sell out to that is the difference.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Do you find it curious that Orthodox Catholics and Jews are conservative, but those who basically don't practice are left winged?

Not even a little bit, especially since your premise is wrong

 

[Votto]

God, another set of idiots who can't define what a leftist is and ties to scramble words like an omlette...At least the omelette has a purpose..

Religion, like politics, cannot be either proved or disproved. They both involve an ideology on how you should live your life and how you should interact with others around you.

Of course, the naysayers would argue that just mentioning the term "God" makes something a religion and not mentioning a God makes it not a religion.

However, if you don't adhere to a God then those in authority above you become your god. It seems like a rather flimsy objection.

 

[Votto]

Do you find it curious that Orthodox Catholics and Jews are conservative, but those who basically don't practice are left winged?

Not even a little bit, especially since your premise is wrong

Do you have the at least some ability to debate the content in the article or are you just here to stick your tongue out at me?

 

[Votto]

Dennis Prager had this to say about it.

For at least the last hundred years, the world’s most dynamic religion has been neither Christianity nor Islam.

It is leftism.

Most people do not recognize what is probably the single most important fact of modern life. One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the people who affirm leftist beliefs think of their views as the only way to properly think about life.

That, in turn, explains why anyone who opposes leftism is labeled anti-intellectual, anti-progress, anti-science, anti-minority and anti-reason (among many other pejorative epithets): leftists truly believe that there is no other way to think.

How successful has leftism been?

It dominates the thinking of Europe, much of Latin America, Canada, and Asia, as well as the thinking of the political and intellectual elites of most of the world. Outside of the Muslim world, it is virtually the only way in which news is reported and virtually the only way in which young people are educated from elementary school through university.

Only the United States, of all Western countries, has resisted leftism. But that resistance is fading as increasing numbers of Americans abandon traditional Judeo-Christian religions, lead secular lives, are educated by teachers whose views are almost uniformly left-wing and are exposed on a daily basis virtually exclusively to leftist views in their news and entertainment media.

And when there is resistance, the left declares it “extremist.” Merely believing that marriage should remain defined as it has been throughout recorded history, as between a man and a woman, renders you an extremist. So, too, belief that government should be small — the Tea Party position — renders one an extremist. Last week, the managing editor of Time Magazine, Richard Stengel, said on MSNBC that the Salafis, the most radical Islamist sect, are “the Tea Party of Muslim democracy.”

Even Christianity and Judaism, the pillars of Judeo-Christian values, the moral value system upon which America was founded and thanks to which it became the world’s beacon of liberty, have been widely influenced by leftism. Many priests, ministers, rabbis and many Jewish and Christian seminaries are leftist in content and Jewish or Christian only in form.

Years ago, I debated one of the most prominent rabbis in the Conservative movement of Judaism on the issue of whether morality must be God-based. The Ivy League Ph.D., yarmulke-wearing rabbi argued that God was not morally necessary. If you want to understand why so many Jews vote left while nearly all the Western world’s opposition to — and frequently hatred of — Israel emanates from the left, one explanation is this: For most American Jews, their religion is leftism, while Judaism is their ethnicity and culture. The Reform, and increasingly the Conservative, movements have, to a large extent, become political movements that use Hebrew and Jewish rituals to equate Judaism with progressive politics.

Within mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism, the same dominance of leftist values exists. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops largely holds the same social and economic views as the Democratic Party and The New York Times editorial page. It differs with the left with regard to same-sex marriage, abortion and religious freedom issues such as those pertaining to Catholic hospitals and government-funded contraception. As for mainstream Protestant denominations, they, too, are largely indistinguishable from leftism. Proof? Ask a liberal Protestant minister to name one important area in which he and leftism differ. Ask a liberal Reform or Conservative rabbi the same question. Their silence will be telling.

The truth is that the left has been far more successful in converting in converting Jews and Christians to Leftism than Christianity and Judaism have been in influencing leftists to convert to Christianity or Judaism.

Finally, leftism has even attained considerable success at undoing the central American values of liberty, “In God We Trust,” and “E Pluribus Unum,” supplanting liberty with egalitarianism, a God-based society with secularism, and “E Pluribus Unum” with multiculturalism. (I make this case at length in “Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph” [HarperCollins].)

This triumph of the twentieth century’s most dynamic religion — leftism — is why, even in the midst of an ongoing recession, the leftist candidate may win. As I wrote in my last column, it’s not just the economy, stupid

 

[TheOldSchool]

Do you find it curious that Orthodox Catholics and Jews are conservative, but those who basically don't practice are left winged?

Not even a little bit, especially since your premise is wrong

Do you have the at least some ability to debate the content in the article or are you just here to stick your tongue out at me?

By your argument, anything can be considered a religion. You believe in going to work? Then work is your religion, and your boss is your God.

 

[Moonglow]

God, another set of idiots who can't define what a leftist is and ties to scramble words like an omlette...At least the omelette has a purpose..

Religion, like politics, cannot be either proved or disproved. They both involve an ideology on how you should live your life and how you should interact with others around you.

Of course, the naysayers would argue that just mentioning the term "God" makes something a religion and not mentioning a God makes it not a religion.

However, if you don't adhere to a God then those in authority above you become your god. It seems like a rather flimsy objection.

More scrambled words...A religion can be proven a deity not so much....There is no deity or cult worship to ascribe to the definition of a religion to the left(whatever those people are)....A philosophy can be a religion, yet leftism is not liberalism...
The article states that he believes that the right/gop/Trump is making govt. smaller..I'd certainly like to know what they are doing to get their asses off our backs, not just for business only...No laws have been stricken in fact new ones for the plebs have been passed...No legal weed at the federal level, no receinding of laws that violate the 4th Amendment....This is all a rag piece of rhetorical propaganda...

 

[Weatherman2020]

Leftism, the Religion | National Review

Is Lefitism a religion?

re·li·gion
[rəˈlijən]

a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

archaic : scrupulous conformity

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

 

[TheOldSchool]

Dennis Prager had this to say about it.

For at least the last hundred years, the world’s most dynamic religion has been neither Christianity nor Islam.

It is leftism.

Most people do not recognize what is probably the single most important fact of modern life. One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the people who affirm leftist beliefs think of their views as the only way to properly think about life.

That, in turn, explains why anyone who opposes leftism is labeled anti-intellectual, anti-progress, anti-science, anti-minority and anti-reason (among many other pejorative epithets): leftists truly believe that there is no other way to think.

How successful has leftism been?

It dominates the thinking of Europe, much of Latin America, Canada, and Asia, as well as the thinking of the political and intellectual elites of most of the world. Outside of the Muslim world, it is virtually the only way in which news is reported and virtually the only way in which young people are educated from elementary school through university.

Only the United States, of all Western countries, has resisted leftism. But that resistance is fading as increasing numbers of Americans abandon traditional Judeo-Christian religions, lead secular lives, are educated by teachers whose views are almost uniformly left-wing and are exposed on a daily basis virtually exclusively to leftist views in their news and entertainment media.

And when there is resistance, the left declares it “extremist.” Merely believing that marriage should remain defined as it has been throughout recorded history, as between a man and a woman, renders you an extremist. So, too, belief that government should be small — the Tea Party position — renders one an extremist. Last week, the managing editor of Time Magazine, Richard Stengel, said on MSNBC that the Salafis, the most radical Islamist sect, are “the Tea Party of Muslim democracy.”

Even Christianity and Judaism, the pillars of Judeo-Christian values, the moral value system upon which America was founded and thanks to which it became the world’s beacon of liberty, have been widely influenced by leftism. Many priests, ministers, rabbis and many Jewish and Christian seminaries are leftist in content and Jewish or Christian only in form.

Years ago, I debated one of the most prominent rabbis in the Conservative movement of Judaism on the issue of whether morality must be God-based. The Ivy League Ph.D., yarmulke-wearing rabbi argued that God was not morally necessary. If you want to understand why so many Jews vote left while nearly all the Western world’s opposition to — and frequently hatred of — Israel emanates from the left, one explanation is this: For most American Jews, their religion is leftism, while Judaism is their ethnicity and culture. The Reform, and increasingly the Conservative, movements have, to a large extent, become political movements that use Hebrew and Jewish rituals to equate Judaism with progressive politics.

Within mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism, the same dominance of leftist values exists. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops largely holds the same social and economic views as the Democratic Party and The New York Times editorial page. It differs with the left with regard to same-sex marriage, abortion and religious freedom issues such as those pertaining to Catholic hospitals and government-funded contraception. As for mainstream Protestant denominations, they, too, are largely indistinguishable from leftism. Proof? Ask a liberal Protestant minister to name one important area in which he and leftism differ. Ask a liberal Reform or Conservative rabbi the same question. Their silence will be telling.

The truth is that the left has been far more successful in converting in converting Jews and Christians to Leftism than Christianity and Judaism have been in influencing leftists to convert to Christianity or Judaism.

Finally, leftism has even attained considerable success at undoing the central American values of liberty, “In God We Trust,” and “E Pluribus Unum,” supplanting liberty with egalitarianism, a God-based society with secularism, and “E Pluribus Unum” with multiculturalism. (I make this case at length in “Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph” [HarperCollins].)

This triumph of the twentieth century’s most dynamic religion — leftism — is why, even in the midst of an ongoing recession, the leftist candidate may win. As I wrote in my last column, it’s not just the economy, stupid

Respectfully, that’s opinionated horseshit.

 

[Votto]

Do you find it curious that Orthodox Catholics and Jews are conservative, but those who basically don't practice are left winged?

Not even a little bit, especially since your premise is wrong

Do you have the at least some ability to debate the content in the article or are you just here to stick your tongue out at me?

By your argument, anything can be considered a religion. You believe in going to work? Then work is your religion, and your boss is your God.

Your work reflects your religion.

For example, Dennis Prager is now involved with a court case against Youtube for censoring his videos on abortion. Their excuse was that it involved pornography, a claim that is absurd.

 

[Votto]

Dennis Prager had this to say about it.

For at least the last hundred years, the world’s most dynamic religion has been neither Christianity nor Islam.

It is leftism.

Most people do not recognize what is probably the single most important fact of modern life. One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the people who affirm leftist beliefs think of their views as the only way to properly think about life.

That, in turn, explains why anyone who opposes leftism is labeled anti-intellectual, anti-progress, anti-science, anti-minority and anti-reason (among many other pejorative epithets): leftists truly believe that there is no other way to think.

How successful has leftism been?

It dominates the thinking of Europe, much of Latin America, Canada, and Asia, as well as the thinking of the political and intellectual elites of most of the world. Outside of the Muslim world, it is virtually the only way in which news is reported and virtually the only way in which young people are educated from elementary school through university.

Only the United States, of all Western countries, has resisted leftism. But that resistance is fading as increasing numbers of Americans abandon traditional Judeo-Christian religions, lead secular lives, are educated by teachers whose views are almost uniformly left-wing and are exposed on a daily basis virtually exclusively to leftist views in their news and entertainment media.

And when there is resistance, the left declares it “extremist.” Merely believing that marriage should remain defined as it has been throughout recorded history, as between a man and a woman, renders you an extremist. So, too, belief that government should be small — the Tea Party position — renders one an extremist. Last week, the managing editor of Time Magazine, Richard Stengel, said on MSNBC that the Salafis, the most radical Islamist sect, are “the Tea Party of Muslim democracy.”

Even Christianity and Judaism, the pillars of Judeo-Christian values, the moral value system upon which America was founded and thanks to which it became the world’s beacon of liberty, have been widely influenced by leftism. Many priests, ministers, rabbis and many Jewish and Christian seminaries are leftist in content and Jewish or Christian only in form.

Years ago, I debated one of the most prominent rabbis in the Conservative movement of Judaism on the issue of whether morality must be God-based. The Ivy League Ph.D., yarmulke-wearing rabbi argued that God was not morally necessary. If you want to understand why so many Jews vote left while nearly all the Western world’s opposition to — and frequently hatred of — Israel emanates from the left, one explanation is this: For most American Jews, their religion is leftism, while Judaism is their ethnicity and culture. The Reform, and increasingly the Conservative, movements have, to a large extent, become political movements that use Hebrew and Jewish rituals to equate Judaism with progressive politics.

Within mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism, the same dominance of leftist values exists. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops largely holds the same social and economic views as the Democratic Party and The New York Times editorial page. It differs with the left with regard to same-sex marriage, abortion and religious freedom issues such as those pertaining to Catholic hospitals and government-funded contraception. As for mainstream Protestant denominations, they, too, are largely indistinguishable from leftism. Proof? Ask a liberal Protestant minister to name one important area in which he and leftism differ. Ask a liberal Reform or Conservative rabbi the same question. Their silence will be telling.

The truth is that the left has been far more successful in converting in converting Jews and Christians to Leftism than Christianity and Judaism have been in influencing leftists to convert to Christianity or Judaism.

Finally, leftism has even attained considerable success at undoing the central American values of liberty, “In God We Trust,” and “E Pluribus Unum,” supplanting liberty with egalitarianism, a God-based society with secularism, and “E Pluribus Unum” with multiculturalism. (I make this case at length in “Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph” [HarperCollins].)

This triumph of the twentieth century’s most dynamic religion — leftism — is why, even in the midst of an ongoing recession, the leftist candidate may win. As I wrote in my last column, it’s not just the economy, stupid

Respectfully, that’s opinionated horseshit.

Stop waving your tongue at me and think man!

Where is your retort?

 

[Votto]

God, another set of idiots who can't define what a leftist is and ties to scramble words like an omlette...At least the omelette has a purpose..

Religion, like politics, cannot be either proved or disproved. They both involve an ideology on how you should live your life and how you should interact with others around you.

Of course, the naysayers would argue that just mentioning the term "God" makes something a religion and not mentioning a God makes it not a religion.

However, if you don't adhere to a God then those in authority above you become your god. It seems like a rather flimsy objection.

More scrambled words...A religion can be proven a deity not so much....There is no deity or cult worship to ascribe to the definition of a religion to the left(whatever those people are)....A philosophy can be a religion, yet leftism is not liberalism...
The article states that he believes that the right/gop/Trump is making govt. smaller..I'd certainly like to know what they are doing to get their asses off our backs, not just for business only...No laws have been stricken in fact new ones for the plebs have been passed...No legal weed at the federal level, no receinding of laws that violate the 4th Amendment....This is all a rag piece of rhetorical propaganda...

A religion can be proved?

Name one.

As for fighting for a smaller government, both political parties are Progressive, i.e., left leaning.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Do you find it curious that Orthodox Catholics and Jews are conservative, but those who basically don't practice are left winged?

Not even a little bit, especially since your premise is wrong

Do you have the at least some ability to debate the content in the article or are you just here to stick your tongue out at me?

By your argument, anything can be considered a religion. You believe in going to work? Then work is your religion, and your boss is your God.

Your work reflects your religion.

For example, Dennis Prager is now involved with a court case against Youtube for censoring his videos on abortion. Their excuse was that it involved pornography, a claim that is absurd.

You lied about them saying it was pornography. Did you do that because of your religion?

 

[Votto]

IF Leftism is not a religion why then has it subverted so many of faith from their religion?

 

[Votto]

Not even a little bit, especially since your premise is wrong

Do you have the at least some ability to debate the content in the article or are you just here to stick your tongue out at me?

By your argument, anything can be considered a religion. You believe in going to work? Then work is your religion, and your boss is your God.

Your work reflects your religion.

For example, Dennis Prager is now involved with a court case against Youtube for censoring his videos on abortion. Their excuse was that it involved pornography, a claim that is absurd.

You lied about them saying it was pornography. Did you do that because of your religion?

Here is the article on the law suit.

PragerU Takes Legal Action Against Google and YouTube for Discrimination

Youtube said that the content was "inappropriate for children", however, if you watch the videos you will soon find that this accusation is baseless.

 

[Moonglow]

God, another set of idiots who can't define what a leftist is and ties to scramble words like an omlette...At least the omelette has a purpose..

Religion, like politics, cannot be either proved or disproved. They both involve an ideology on how you should live your life and how you should interact with others around you.

Of course, the naysayers would argue that just mentioning the term "God" makes something a religion and not mentioning a God makes it not a religion.

However, if you don't adhere to a God then those in authority above you become your god. It seems like a rather flimsy objection.

More scrambled words...A religion can be proven a deity not so much....There is no deity or cult worship to ascribe to the definition of a religion to the left(whatever those people are)....A philosophy can be a religion, yet leftism is not liberalism...
The article states that he believes that the right/gop/Trump is making govt. smaller..I'd certainly like to know what they are doing to get their asses off our backs, not just for business only...No laws have been stricken in fact new ones for the plebs have been passed...No legal weed at the federal level, no receinding of laws that violate the 4th Amendment....This is all a rag piece of rhetorical propaganda...

A religion can be proved?

Name one.

As for fighting for a smaller government, both political parties are Progressive, i.e., left leaning.

I can prove to you that there is a religion called christianity..

 

[TheOldSchool]

Do you have the at least some ability to debate the content in the article or are you just here to stick your tongue out at me?

By your argument, anything can be considered a religion. You believe in going to work? Then work is your religion, and your boss is your God.

Your work reflects your religion.

For example, Dennis Prager is now involved with a court case against Youtube for censoring his videos on abortion. Their excuse was that it involved pornography, a claim that is absurd.

You lied about them saying it was pornography. Did you do that because of your religion?

Here is the article on the law suit.

PragerU Takes Legal Action Against Google and YouTube for Discrimination

Youtube said that the content was "inappropriate for children", however, if you watch the videos you will soon find that this accusation is baseless.

There are tons of pro-life abortion videos on youtube as we speak. Prager’s must have been really twisted, probably inspiring hatred against abortion clinics and women who have had abortions.