Left in full meltdown over Zarqawis' death

[red states rule]

As I have said, the left is in full meltdown over the death of Zarqawi. Fox News reported the following...........
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198794,00.html

The elimination of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq may have been a victory for the United States and a step forward in the War on Terror, but you might not have known that from some of the coverage.

Reuters called Zarqawi a "figurehead for Islamist militants," who has "been blamed by the United States" for suicide bombings and the beheading of foreign captives. And the BBC called Zarqawi simply a "militant leader" who was "considered the figurehead of the Sunni insurgency." The BBC suggested his removal could do more harm than good by bringing about "an explosion of revenge by his followers."

Meanwhile, the Arab Committee for Human Rights says it's outraged at the release of photos verifying Zarqawi's death, calling it a violation of the Geneva Convention.

A spokesman tells al-Jazeera that the treaty's provisions on degrading treatment prohibit releasing any pictures of dead combatants or prisoners of war, claiming the U.S. also violated the provision after the capture of Saddam Hussein and the deaths of his sons

Those protections, of course, extend to soldiers of another country, not terrorists, and Pentagon officials say the pictures were necessary to convince the world that Zarqawi was dead. Al-Jazeera calls that a "flimsy argument."

U.S. contractor Nick Berg's beheading in Iraq two years ago was broadcast around the world and U.S. officials say Zarqawi himself committed the execution. But Berg's father says he feels no relief at the terrorist's death because he blames President Bush for the murder.

Michael Berg told FOX News that the president signed off on "the torture and death and rape of people in Abu Ghraib prison, for which my son was killed in retaliation."

Berg, by the way, is running for Congress in Pennsylvania as a member of the Green Party.



Any good news for the US and the US military is bad news for the Dems

 

[nukeman]

As I have said, the left is in full meltdown over the death of Zarqawi. Fox News reported the following...........
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198794,00.html
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Meanwhile, the Arab Committee for Human Rights says it's outraged at the release of photos verifying Zarqawi's death, calling it a violation of the Geneva Convention.

A spokesman tells al-Jazeera that the treaty's provisions on degrading treatment prohibit releasing any pictures of dead combatants or prisoners of war, claiming the U.S. also violated the provision after the capture of Saddam Hussein and the deaths of his sons

Those protections, of course, extend to soldiers of another country, not terrorists, and Pentagon officials say the pictures were necessary to convince the world that Zarqawi was dead. Al-Jazeera calls that a "flimsy argument."


Any good news for the US and the US military is bad news for the Dems

I pulled this part out of your post I would like to point out that if Zarqawi is a soldier than I do believe than Nick Berg should have been given the same fair treatment. Oh wait Al-Jazeera was more than happy to display his beheading over and over and over again not only the actual act but than the display of his body.

Al-jazeera is filled with a bunch of islamic militant sympathizers and the whole network needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. :dev1:

I am so sick of the Muslems screaming respect our dead as they continue to behead, torture, mutilate, desicrate and parade any US soldiers body they can get their slimy greasy hands on. Every one of them that calls for our respect can go fuck themselves.... At the very least they can try to earn our respect by proveing they are going to hold themselves to the same standards they hold us hypocritical bastards one and all.....mad:

 

[CSM]

I pulled this part out of your post I would like to point out that if Zarqawi is a soldier than I do believe than Nick Berg should have been given the same fair treatment. Oh wait Al-Jazeera was more than happy to display his beheading over and over and over again not only the actual act but than the display of his body.

Al-jazeera is filled with a bunch of islamic militant sympathizers and the whole network needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. :dev1:

I am so sick of the Muslems screaming respect our dead as they continue to behead, torture, mutilate, desicrate and parade any US soldiers body they can get their slimy greasy hands on. Every one of them that calls for our respect can go fuck themselves.... At the very least they can try to earn our respect by proveing they are going to hold themselves to the same standards they hold us hypocritical bastards one and all.....mad:

BUT...BUT...BUT...what about the moral high ground???? (sarcasm)

I don't know when the libs/Dems will understand that you cannot expect the US military to fight a war where the enemy is held to a different standard than our own soldiers. Restricting our soldiers actions on the battlefield is the same as tying both hands behind their back. If we are going to do that, get them the hell out of there. When the terrorists come to our country after that and start raping, murdering or committing the same atrocities they are currently doing in Iraq, let those on the moral high ground know they are secure in the knowledge that they have that high ground while their countrymen are murdered and their country goes down in flames. They wont have much else.

 

[nukeman]

BUT...BUT...BUT...what about the moral high ground???? (sarcasm)

I don't know when the libs/Dems will understand that you cannot expect the US military to fight a war where the enemy is held to a different standard than our own soldiers. Restricting our soldiers actions on the battlefield is the same as tying both hands behind their back. If we are going to do that, get them the hell out of there. When the terrorists come to our country after that and start raping, murdering or committing the same atrocities they are currently doing in Iraq, let those on the moral high ground know they are secure in the knowledge that they have that high ground while their countrymen are murdered and their country goes down in flames. They wont have much else.

I gotta agree 100% with you these libs are doing nothing but hindering our troops and making a mockery of everything they do over there....

DEMS/LIBS =

 

[nukeman]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CSM again.

 

[Annie]

*Satire Alert*​

Links at site:

http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2278

June 9, 2006
Democrats Vow to Fight On After Zarqawi Loss
by Scott Ott

(2006-06-09) — As Blackberry devices and cell phones on Capitol Hill hummed with news of the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi yesterday, Congressional Democrats vowed that despite the loss they would fight on in “the war on the war on terror.”

“Zarqawi will be missed because he put a human face on the futility of the illegal U.S. occupation of Iraq,” said one unnamed lawmaker, who assured a reporter that “Democrats are still optimistic. We’re still looking for the silver lining.”

Rep. John Murtha, D-PA, a former Marine and vocal critic of the military occupation of Iraq, immediately denounced “the Zarqawi massacre” and suggested that the F-16 pilot who dropped the bombs had snapped under pressure and murdered the al Qaeda leader “in cold blood.”

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-PA, demanded an explanation of the secret intelligence gathering techniques and surveillance used to find Mr. Zarqawi.

“I want to give the president an opportunity to explain the program to the Congress and to assure the American people that nobody’s civil rights were violated,” said Sen. Specter.

Meanwhile, Democrat National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and former presidential candidate Al Gore observed a moment of silence as they heard of the passing of Mr. Zarqawi, a fellow Internet pioneer.

 

[CSM]

*Satire Alert*​

Links at site:

http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2278

Satire yes, but damn close to the truth. I heard Murtha this morning on the news...not far from the truth at all!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Al Gore was on Leno last night. He didn't sound very lib at all, at least concerning Zarqawi.

Leno: Isn't it kind of strange to be celebrating the death of a person like this? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm glad the guy's dead, but don't you think it's weird to celebrate death like this?

Gore: Yeah.... no. It's a good thing to celebrate this guy being dead.

Leno: Ok then.

I might be paraphrasing a bit, but that's the basic jist of the conversation.

 

[dmp]

psst...heya Arab Committee for Human Rights people...wanna talk 'conventions'???

On September 1, 2004 Chechen muzzies, armed with guns and suicide-bomb belts, seized a Russian school taking hundreds of children hostage. Over 300 people, many children, were killed by the Islamic Terrorists.

The National Movement for the Restoration of Pakistan Sovereignty accused Daniel Pearl of spying for the United States and Israel.
Pearl was confirmed dead on February 21 when a video tape surfaces that shows Pearl being stabbed and decapitated.

Jack Hensley, Kenneth Bigley and Eugene Armstrong were kidnapped in Baghdad. The men were working on Iraqi reconstruction projects.

On Tuesday September 20, 2004 Jordanian terrorist Musab al-Zarqawi beheaded the 53-year old American construction worker from Hillsdale, Michigan.

Officials notified the family on what would have been his 49th birthday that Jack Hensley's headless body had been found by Iraqi police.

A group loyal to Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi posted a message Tuesday, September 21, 2004, on an Islamist Web site saying Hensley had been killed.

Kim Sun-il, an evangelical Christian, was slain after his government refused to grant the demand of suspected al Qaeda terrorists that the government cancel its planned deployment of 3,000 troops to help rebuild Iraq.

Paul Johnson Jr., a 49-year-old Lockheed Martin Corp. employee, was kidnapped in Riyadh.

Soon after an Islamist Web site posted photographs of his decapitated body.

July 21, 2004 - Saudi security forces found the frozen head of slain U.S. hostage Paul M. Johnson Jr.


(credits to Terrorists-suck.org)

 

[CSM]

Arab Committee for Human Rights...LOL!

I have heard some on this board talk about how the US dehumanizes the enemy in order to kill them. How much "dehumanizing" does it take to saw somebody's head off? How much "dehumanization" does it take to blow up a bunch of school kids? How "dehumanized" do you have to be to rape and torture innocents?

The US doesn't have to "dehumanize" the enemy...they did that themselves.

 

[red states rule]

Here is another example of the liberal media trying to ruin a great victory in Iraq

This is from the Washington Compost


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13212323/from/ET/

A chilling portrait, unsuitably framed
Photo of al-Zarqawi's head framed like a venerated image, or war trophy
By Philip Kennicott

Updated: 7:18 a.m. ET June 9, 2006
WASHINGTON - The frame surrounding an image of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's head, revealed to the world as proof the terrorist is dead, is bizarre. When the picture was displayed at a U.S. military news briefing, Zarqawi's face was seen inside what appeared to be a professional photographic mat job, with a large frame, as if it were something one might preserve and hang on the wall next to other family portraits. One function of frames is to bound an image, and close down its open edges; frames delimit, both physically and by extension, metaphorically. But that was the last thing this frame was doing.

Even as the news was greeting a sleepy America, bursting forth on the morning talk programs and racing around the Internet, the meaning of Zarqawi's death was anything but closed. Virtually no one outside the Iraqi insurgency and other jihadists thought his death was a bad thing, though reports came in that members of Zarqawi's Jordanian family, who had publicly distanced themselves from the killer after he brought his violence to hotels in Amman, were grieving.

In this country, a familiar dynamic played out. Supporters of the war cheered, and criticized the war's opponents (by now a sizable majority of Americans) if they didn't cheer, too. More cautious voices broached the idea -- though at the peril of having their patriotism questioned -- that this may not be the desired turning point in the conflict. They reminded us that we had already seen similar photographs of Uday and Qusay, Saddam Hussein's dead sons, and that Saddam's capture was also supposed to be the beginning of the end of the mayhem.

A strange dignity
So will this image, given a strange dignity by its prominent frame, be a defining image of the war? Not likely. Its primary function is forensic. It proves, in an age of skepticism (heightened by a three-year history of official claims about the war turning out to be false), that Zarqawi is indeed dead. But beyond that, the image has little power. Indeed, as with so many images in this war, it is loaded with the potential to backfire

Among the dissenting voices in the hubbub yesterday were those worried about Zarqawi's status as a martyr. And here, again, the frame plays a very odd role. In many traditions, a framed picture of the deceased suggests something like an icon, something to be venerated. Photographs of journalists photographing the image at the news briefing showed Zarqawi's face looming above them. One might believe, for a moment, that they had gathered to bask in its exalted presence.

The image itself, a disembodied head, connects this event to the abject misery that Zarqawi had brought to so many people in Iraq over the course of his deadly career. He was the one who reportedly sawed off the head of Nicholas Berg, and now Zarqawi's head was appearing, lifeless, eyes closed, as if it too were somehow detached from his body. For those who want revenge, the head of Zarqawi is a welcome sight; but it reminds others how much this war has been about cycles of killing, retribution, tribal and sectarian violence, and the most primitive destructive urges.

When the White House decided to "roll out a new product" (former chief of staff Andrew Card's phrase) three years ago, the looming war was sold as urgent, with little doubt that it would be fast and clean. We would be liberators; the war would pay for itself. And now we gaze on Zarqawi's face one last time, as he reminds us that the new product wasn't so new; the war turned out to have all too much of what wars have always had in them, death, destruction and chaos. Zarqawi's head forces us to confront once again the most primitive dynamic of war: It's an eye for an eye, or a head for a head.

Trophy image?
The framed image of a head also has a disturbing sense of the trophy to it -- proof of another small victory brought home from battle -- which connects it to what might be called the ultimate self-destructing image of victory: the "Mission Accomplished" photo-op staged on an aircraft carrier on May 1, 2003. Even before the war had definitively turned sour, that single image established a pattern. The war would be politicized.

What began as a war of necessity, premised on the slam-dunk certainty that Saddam Hussein was staring us down with weapons of mass destruction, eventually became a war of ideas. If there were no weapons, then at least it was a war of liberation, bringing freedom and democracy to a land in desperate need of both. And when that war devolved into clouds of dust and pools of blood as the country broke into religious and ethnic factions, and the rule of law was extinguished by terrorists and militias, the war of ideas began to seem more like another thing -- a war of trophies.

We may not have victory. Iraq may be a living hell both for those who are fighting to make it better and for those who live there. But we bring home the occasional politically expedient marker of "progress." Major combat operations are over. We got Saddam's sons. We got Saddam. Now we have Zarqawi. The trophy case fills: elections, a constitution, a new government -- everything but peace and stability for an exhausted nation of Iraqis who have died by the tens of thousands during the evolution of this war.

Zarqawi is gone and good riddance. But there's nothing in the image of his face that deserves a frame. It's a small thing, to be sure. But it suggests a cynicism about this war that is profoundly distressing. Our political and military leaders simply can't resist packaging the war and wrapping it up in a bow.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company